Odds On Posted July 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Why do you think he was so poor and slow at Cardiff? You must have some thoughts. jesus Christ, I asked a genuine question. Because that is his level! He isnt likely to make many top 8's he isnt good enough. He should get 6 or 7 most gp's. He may get 9 in one of them and 4 in another. Why is there no thread saying how poor was Kasprzak, Janowski , Jonsson and Batchelor at Cardiff? They are all (in my opinion) better riders at Harris yet they scored less than he did!! Why is there always a thread were people end up having a dig at Harris, and no im not a Coventry fan either err because Im a Bomber fan, whats the big problem with me asking a question about one of my favourite riders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 jesus Christ, I asked a genuine question. err because Im a Bomber fan, whats the big problem with me asking a question about one of my favourite riders? i havent said its a problam but why do you think or expect him to do any better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 jesus Christ, I asked a genuine question. err because Im a Bomber fan, whats the big problem with me asking a question about one of my favourite riders? Absolutely no problem you asking, but you may have an opinion yourself as to why he was so slow, and it would be nice of you to share it if you have. No big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim3751 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 In the WTC his gating was better than usual so was that to do with the characteristics of the GTR or just a burst of enthusiasm for the new project? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Harris is an entertaining rider,but true World Class he is not.End off.He is riding at his level for the last few seasons.The engine carry -on is his business .IMO.but he seems to lack something in the mechanical knowledge so perhaps he should be interested in such a project.Only my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Harris is an entertaining rider,but true World Class he is not.End off.He is riding at his level for the last few seasons.The engine carry -on is his business .IMO.but he seems to lack something in the mechanical knowledge so perhaps he should be interested in such a project.Only my opinion. spot on. wish people would stop banging on about his form. A few years back he won in Cardiif and i believe was world number 6. That was his pinnicle. He is now no better than say 14th in the gp but is ahead of riders he shouldnt be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 6th, at the end of a GP series or 14th. for that matter does not make anyone world number 6, 14 etc.. if that series is lacking Emil and Grigorij to name but 2. Because of wildcards, only 3 progressing from the challenge, external politics etc. the GP series is not made up of the world.s top 16 riders. Yes. I know the old system did not necessarily mean the top 16 getting to Wembley, but at least more than 15 riders had the chance to become world champion in any given year. I like and admire Bomber very much and regret the bomber-bashing that some on here are prone to BUT, under the old system I doubt he would have made many World Finals. That said, he can only beat the riders put up against him, which he did to earn his place so good luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 6th, at the end of a GP series or 14th. for that matter does not make anyone world number 6, 14 etc.. if that series is lacking Emil and Grigorij to name but 2. Because of wildcards, only 3 progressing from the challenge, external politics etc. the GP series is not made up of the world.s top 16 riders. Yes. I know the old system did not necessarily mean the top 16 getting to Wembley, but at least more than 15 riders had the chance to become world champion in any given year. I like and admire Bomber very much and regret the bomber-bashing that some on here are prone to BUT, under the old system I doubt he would have made many World Finals. That said, he can only beat the riders put up against him, which he did to earn his place so good luck to him. What other motorsport World Championship has an open qualification system (albeit it with only 11 spaces)? Most are just the man (or woman) who pays the most or whos team pays the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 That's why I liked the old system...open to all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 That's why I liked the old system...open to all In some ways I agree. But I look at some fo the crap that qualifies over the years and compare it to the wildcards, and suddenly..... without wildcards Nicki is only a double World Champion and Tai is still waiting. Yet I don't think a single World Champion come from the previous years GP qualifier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 From Chris himself: STATEMENT: This is to clear up false rumours that are being reported about me on social media regarding the non use of GTR engines at Cardiff. Firstly not at any time have I been offered any money to use the engine neither at anytime have I asked for money from Gerhard engines for me to use them. The reason I chose not to ride the GTR at the British SGP is due to not having enough track time with the engine to understand how it works and how to set it up to my riding style. The last time I rode the GTR was at the British Final meeting and after the meeting it was taken out of my bike and taken away for the guys to check it out or work on it. I made the decision to use my BAR engines on the back of having 3 good meetings including a paid max and I know how these engines work for my riding style. I had lengthy conversations with Marcel Gerhard over the weekend of Cardiff and discussed the plan moving forward which involves a GTR being changed to suit my riding style and to practice on the engine prior to the next SGP. To support this my sponsors Rock Oil have provided the required oils by GerhardEngines to ensure Marcel and his team have everything they need. I look forward to working with Marcel and the team to come up with something special that suits my riding style in the near future. Marcel completely understood my reasons and there were no hard feelings which was proven by their message of best wishes for me on their social media accounts. I am disappointed but at the same time amused at what people write and that they waste their time posting on social media sites and forums without knowing the truth. Rumours and false statements are aimed to make the person in question look bad, however I am an honest rider and I will make decisions what I am comfortable with whether it turns out right or wrong, at the end of the day I am the one riding the bikes and risking my life. If people wanted to know the reason why they should just ask me and I will explain the truth rather than listen to rumours or made up stories on social media sites and forums. Chris 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 THE truth is somewhere between the two ... Marcel Gerhard and some guys from Suter drove from Switzerland (via Calais!) to Cardiff with some engines in the belief that Harris would use one. It was only on Friday that he informed them that he wanted to use the GMs that had served him well in recent leagues matches. But for Lambert grabbing one, it would have been a wasted and expensive journey. GTR were prepared to offer Chris some inducement to use an engine but nothing like the sum that he wanted. I suggest you read the above statement from Chris himself Mr Rising!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) So the hanger is now throwing around spurious allegations and passing them off as fact ? Deary me It's quite incredible really! I wonder if it came from one of his darling monster boys? Remember, this is the man who supported Darcy Ward over the winter. That in itself says all it needs to, but he appears to have sunk to a new low.. No integrity, no credibility.. Philip Rising take a bow Edited July 9, 2015 by Jacques 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 From Chris himself: The reason I chose not to ride the GTR at the British SGP is due to not having enough track time with the engine to understand how it works and how to set it up to my riding style. Hardly surprising is it? Anyway I think Chris made the right decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 So the hanger is now throwing around spurious allegations and passing them off as fact ? Deary me It's quite incredible really! I wonder if it came from one of his darling monster boys? Remember, this is the man who supported Darcy Ward over the winter. That in itself says all it needs to, but he appears to have sunk to a new low.. No integrity, no credibility.. Philip Rising take a bow JUST for the record can you provide any evidence that I supported Darcy Ward over the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 JUST for the record can you provide any evidence that I supported Darcy Ward over the winter. It's all over the Darcy Ward thread! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 TRY being more specific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Why should I..you must know what you've written surely? I'm certainly not going to trawl through hundreds of pages to help you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 In some ways I agree. But I look at some fo the crap that qualifies over the years and compare it to the wildcards, and suddenly..... without wildcards Nicki is only a double World Champion and Tai is still waiting. Yet I don't think a single World Champion come from the previous years GP qualifier. could argue that these 2 when picked were picked at the right time because they went on and won the title in the wildcard year. the problem with the wildcard is that a lot of the time it has been done so that there are enough from a certain nation involved. where Harris is concerned and Lindgren to a certain extent they both received wildcards when they didn't deserve them but they were at that time the better option from that nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Why should I..you must know what you've written surely? I'm certainly not going to trawl through hundreds of pages to help you! WOULDN'T matter if you did. I never defended Ward. Criticised the various processes and the time it took, although subsequently admitted that the FIM were largely vindicated when the full report came out. Anyway, not sure what this is doing on this particular thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.