Alex2000 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 BWD 12+1 for the Brummies, how did Zak go?10 points BWD 12+1 for the Brummies, how did Zak go?10 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 BWD 12+1 for the Brummies, how did Zak go? BWD got 12+1 from 5 = 10.4 average stuff in old money or 9.6 in new age averages where the bonus point does not count. ZW got 10 from 4 which is 10.0 average stuff. May the debate go on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Ah, but don't forget BWD was at number one so had harder rides. For me they are on a par with each other with BWD maybe just sneaking it but that could change. I am a biased Eastbourne fan but I honestly wish them both all the best. They are both exciting youngsters that race hard and don't give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbuck Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 I agree that both riders have an exceptional talent and can go on to make real names for themselves. At the moment, Wilson-Dean probably has the edge, but it has to be remembered that Zach Wajtknecht (I've learned to spell it correctly now!!) is such a lightweight and doesn't look any older than about 12, so when he is crowded, he is easily shunted out of the way. When in a couple of years time he gains a man's strength, he will be awesome. I wish both riders the very best of luck for the future and feel sure that they would both prefer to get on with their racing rather than be the subject of comparisons which don't really mean that much at this stage of their careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 BWD has Patriality so no need for Visa Are you sure about that , if so why isn't he on a three for PL , he's also ridden in national titles in NZ, Alex Davies was born in UK but still needs a visa.You still need a work permit if you have patriality , as far as I'm aware. Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Are you sure about that , if so why isn't he on a three for PL , he's also ridden in national titles in NZ, Alex Davies was born in UK but still needs a visa.You still need a work permit if you have patriality , as far as I'm aware. Junior You have to be English to ride in the NL you dont need to a visa if you have ancestry rights (right to Abode) also partiality from the grandparents means he is treated like an English man but cant come in to the UK and go on the council house list and use the UK resources, But the problem is that Yes he is in the NL and they have told him he can ride in the PL but on an assessed average of 5, Same and Gino last year, but the big problem is that he should be treated like an English man so when the UK immigration look at what rules have been set by the BSPA i think your see his average drop to his converted NL to PL average because as of 2016 he will have a 7 point average, as thats what the BSPA have put on him for 2016 as a common wealth rider. (But he is English) as he in the NL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 You mean British. It is quite permissible for Welshmen or Sweaties to ride in the NL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 You have to be English to ride in the NL you dont need to a visa if you have ancestry rights (right to Abode) also partiality from the grandparents means he is treated like an English man but cant come in to the UK and go on the council house list and use the UK resources, But the problem is that Yes he is in the NL and they have told him he can ride in the PL but on an assessed average of 5, Same and Gino last year, but the big problem is that he should be treated like an English man so when the UK immigration look at what rules have been set by the BSPA i think your see his average drop to his converted NL to PL average because as of 2016 he will have a 7 point average, as thats what the BSPA have put on him for 2016 as a common wealth rider. (But he is English) as he in the NL? He's in the NL as a Commonwealth rider with patriality, hence his starting average of 5 and not the 3 that British riders start on. The 5 point PL average is a strange one as there is nothing in the regs other than NL riders going into the PL on an assessed 3 point average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Are you sure about that , if so why isn't he on a three for PL , he's also ridden in national titles in NZ, Alex Davies was born in UK but still needs a visa.You still need a work permit if you have patriality , as far as I'm aware. Junior Also saw before he came over that he said his Visa was sorted so I'm guessing that he does have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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