Humphrey Appleby Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 No preliminary calendars published this year, but there always are somesort of them. Think it was actually one year ago precisely when CCP came out (it was leaked) and said they had no organiser for the 2016 GP challenge. It was a new kind of a problem for them... Sure, and I'd doubt any calendar could be formulated unless the FIM had already received hosting offers. However, you might potentially have two or more offers for the same meeting, so I'd guess nothing is formally confirmed until the final calendar is approved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Does anyone know why the GP qualification system used in the mid 90's, similar to the old World Final route was changed?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Sure, and I'd doubt any calendar could be formulated unless the FIM had already received hosting offers. However, you might potentially have two or more offers for the same meeting, so I'd guess nothing is formally confirmed until the final calendar is approved. Yes. Had I been the head of CCP with meetings without organiser, I would have jumped on the first offer. That might have been the case and BV has it pencilled in. Stamped and inked later in the year. Does anyone know why the GP qualification system used in the mid 90's, similar to the old World Final route was changed?. For the past decade it has been changing to suit the falling number of riders and organisers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 For the past decade it has been changing to suit the falling number of riders and organisers. Would also have thought there's generally less rider interest, given the tiny number of SGP places on offer and the fact that it's a 2-year process. The old regional qualifying system also wasn't very fair. A relatively small number of places were available in extremely strong 'regions' (e.g. Overseas and Scandinavian), yet it seemed just about any man and his dog could start in the Continental Preliminary Rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I was looking at the 1996 qualification system for the 1997 GP series. It seems to me rather more riders got to have a crack at qualification than is now the case. The make up of the final field seemed to be fairer also viz: Top 8 from 1996 series Top 2 from Continental Final Top 2 from Inter-Continental Final Top 4 from GP Challenge Plus the World U-21 Champion Note...NO WILDCARDS but a field of 17. I can't remember how that worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I was looking at the 1996 qualification system for the 1997 GP series. It seems to me rather more riders got to have a crack at qualification than is now the case. The make up of the final field seemed to be fairer also viz: Top 8 from 1996 series Top 2 from Continental Final Top 2 from Inter-Continental Final Top 4 from GP Challenge Plus the World U-21 Champion Note...NO WILDCARDS but a field of 17. I can't remember how that worked. There were 17 permanent riders and a wildcard. The lowest scorer was only reserve at the next round. Or something weird like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Thank you SCB...My memory fails me sometimes . How did the heats run though with 17?/18 riders and if the lowest scorer dropped to reserve, who took his place?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Only 15 riders plus the wild card in the meeting but 2 Permanent reserves for the series. Rider who came 15th was dropped out and replaced by the 1st reserve in the following GP Billy Hamill was 1st reserve for Wroclaw 1995. Came in after Tommy Knudsen was injured and scored enough points to stay in the series proper. Edited September 30, 2015 by PNYC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Thanks for that...having not watched any speedway during the 90's my recollections are sketchy. So re my post #205, which 2 out of the 17 were the permanent reserves and how were they chosen? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I believe in 1995 it was top 10 from 94 World Final, then Havelock, Ermolenko, Smith, Gollob & Mikael Max seeded and Hamill & Peter Karlsson as reseves https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Speedway_Grand_Prix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Once again...many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Always happy to help out a fellow East Londoner!I actually wish they would go back to the old way of qualifying. Top 8 qualify for the next season, bottom 8 go into GP Challenge with 8 qualifiers, top 7 qualify for the next season. Seems stupidly fair and logical to me! Edited September 30, 2015 by PNYC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Always happy to help out a fellow East Londoner! I actually wish they would go back to the old way of qualifying. Top 8 qualify for the next season, bottom 8 go into GP Challenge with 8 qualifiers, top 7 qualify for the next season. Seems stupidly fair and logical to me! They could do it NZ as half of the riders are already in AU and it would be unfair if only the other had to travel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I believe in 1995 it was top 10 from 94 World Final, then Havelock, Ermolenko, Smith, Gollob & Mikael Max seeded and Hamill & Peter Karlsson as reseves https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Speedway_Grand_Prix if my memory serves me right it was 3rd and 4th in D Final (4 lowest scorers after 20 heats) that dropped out of the next round replaced by the 2 who had been the reserves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 RIDERS need to know that they are in every round to work out their riding schedules and for sponsors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Always happy to help out a fellow East Londoner! I actually wish they would go back to the old way of qualifying. Top 8 qualify for the next season, bottom 8 go into GP Challenge with 8 qualifiers, top 7 qualify for the next season. Seems stupidly fair and logical to me! Since when did the words fair and logical enter the speedway lexicon? Strictly speaking PNYC, I'm not an East ender being born in Romford. My eldest son was born in Whitechapel though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Ha thats good enough mate! Phil has there ever been talk of more qualifying spots and less seeds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 NO not as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Ha thats good enough mate! Phil has there ever been talk of more qualifying spots and less seeds? they wont allow that....imagine no poles qualifying, they want control of hand picking on a nationality basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted October 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 BIT premature ... deal agreed but not signed as yet. Now confirmed SWC Race-off and Final in 2019 http://speedwaygp.com/news/article/4495/four-year-deal-for-gorzow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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