The White Knight Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 So what is you want to say about black people, muslims and assorted others not conforming to your sociopolitical beliefs? Nothing at all. I have no problem with them whatsoever. Certain Islamists. My sociopolitical beliefs do not involve killing people. Do yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Is this just another topic, with Somerset at the heart of it, turning into a 'race-row',,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 No I don't know - define what you mean by indigenous population? Exactly! I'm pretty sure you do!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 does 'indigenous' mean the same as 'ambiguous' ???,,, there is so many new words these days, no wonder people get messed up,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 In your day it was also acceptable to put up "no dogs, no blacks, no Irish" posters, but fortunately times have changed. I recently saw an advertisement in a shop window in Forest Gate, East London that said "Room to Let - Ghanains Only" which in essence seems to be the same thing as others that have said no blacks etc. Does this mean the law applies to some sections of society but not others, depending on where you come from? This of course is the same Forest Gate where other shops face prosecution by the local council if they advertise "black bags" or "black "rubbish bags". I don't agree entirely with TWK but I can see where he is coming from. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) I recently saw an advertisement in a shop window in Forest Gate, East London that said "Room to Let - Ghanains Only" which in essence seems to be the same thing as others that have said no blacks etc. Does this mean the law applies to some sections of society but not others, depending on where you come from? This of course is the same Forest Gate where other shops face prosecution by the local council if they advertise "black bags" or "black "rubbish bags". I don't agree entirely with TWK but I can see where he is coming from. so have 'butchers' got it right, when they advertise 'black' & 'white' pudding ??? Edited July 8, 2015 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 so have 'butchers' got it right, when they advertise 'black' & 'white' pudding ??? Not sure. I think legally that's a bit of a grey area. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Just think. In 100 years time, if speedway still exists (long shot, I know), we'll probably have the Bradford "Jihadists" sporting a race suit showing the black flag of islam. And anyone who objects will be called one of the PC brigade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I don't want to be offensive. I just want a level playing field for the indigenous population. Just for the indigenous population? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 And here's me thinking IS was Island Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Just for the indigenous population? No - for everyone - including the indigenous Population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 No - for everyone - including the indigenous Population. Good. I'm glad you clarified that. It wasn't clear the first time round. Clearly there is no intent to offend by the Somerset Rebels, as I am sure there was no intent to offend by the Oxford or White City Rebels before them. And for the British speedway audience oblivious to the offence the flag causes to others, they too have gone unoffended. Myself included. But you have to recognise that it is a flag that causes genuine offence to people, internationally now, not just in the US. I think it needs a re-think. I like the position of the Pope on issues like this. And its not often I say that - particularly in relation to speedway. Freedom of expression is one thing, but if you offend my mum, expect a punch on the nose. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) But you have to recognise that it is a flag that causes genuine offence to people, internationally now, not just in the US. I think it needs a re-think. Sad thing is that the Union flag causes genuine offence to some people, as does the Stars and Stripes. Where does it end? Steve Edited July 10, 2015 by chunky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Sad thing is that the Union flag causes genuine offence to some people, as does the Stars and Stripes. Where does it end? Steve THAT is a very good point chunky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Sad thing is that the Union flag causes genuine offence to some people, as does the Stars and Stripes. Where does it end? Steve Some flags represent a geographical area. If people take offence, that's up to them. Some flags represent a philosophy. If people take offence at that philosophy, that's more understandable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Maybe everything should be in black and white and have numbers on,,, can't see too much wrong with that,,, apart from it would be canny boring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCB Wildcat Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 But you have to recognise that it is a flag that causes genuine offence to people, internationally now, not just in the US. I think it needs a re-think. and that's the problem. We've had to be told that it's offensive or to be offended by it where as previously we didn't know or weren't offended. This is the PC that people complain about. There wasn't a problem and now there is. If people want to hold on to historic vendettas they will always find something to rally behind or be offended by but just let the rest of us get on with life whatever colour or race we are! I 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahLapworth Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 This is the biggest pile of stinking politically correct poo there is. Because some nutter went on the rampage and posed with the flag everyone seems to be jumping on the social media fueled bandwagon calling for it to be banned. The Confederate Flag is a part of US heritage. The US government should be more concerned about sorting out their gun laws before deciding if a flag should be banned. I've not been on the forum for a while so sorry if I'm a bit behind here but it did cross my mind if pressure would be put on Somerset speedway to change their logo. If people find the Confederate flag offensive they need to get psychiatric help. OK people will say its associated with slavery but if we want to go down that route then lets ban the Union Jack. After all didn't we once have a mighty empire built on slavery and colonialism? Lets ban the Irish tricolor as it has links to the IRA and while we are at it lets ban the French flag because they are French! Some people have called for Allo Allo to banned because they wear Nazi uniform in it. My point here is some people need to get a grip in life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 and that's the problem. We've had to be told that it's offensive or to be offended by it where as previously we didn't know or weren't offended. This is the PC that people complain about. There wasn't a problem and now there is. If people want to hold on to historic vendettas they will always find something to rally behind or be offended by but just let the rest of us get on with life whatever colour or race we are! I Surely you aren't saying education is wrong and leaving people to be ignorant is the way to go as long as they are happy?The fact that people don't know the emblem might be offensive to some doesn't make its use ok and we should all be receptive to new information,surely? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCB Wildcat Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Surely you aren't saying education is wrong and leaving people to be ignorant is the way to go as long as they are happy?The fact that people don't know the emblem might be offensive to some doesn't make its use ok and we should all be receptive to new information,surely?How on earth is telling people to be offended by something that isn't intended to be offensive educational? It's just creating a problem in places where previously it didn't exist. There are always going to be places where racial tension exists unfortunately but why create a problem ? If people aren't offended by something, why tell them they should be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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