speedibee Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 This is going to be the new logo when Oxford reopens . it has connections with the river that flows through the middle of Oxford 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 The Confederate flag is a living, breathing symbol of white supremacy. Since the Governor of South Carolina suggested it be banned from public buildings, six black churches in the south have been set on fire. In my view it has no place in modern American life. However, the issue is not relevant to the UK or Somerset speedway. I don't see any problem at all with the Somerset Rebels. To a small minority you are correct however however you cannot say the Confederate Flag was a symbol for white supremacy throughout the Southern states it was a flag of the people who were forced into war to free themselves and only partially about slavery, if you believe all the rubbish about Lincoln being so great read some books about the era The Confederate flag is misunderstood in much the same way that blackens the use of the Flag of St George. Surprised there is no fuss about Chris Harris use the name "Bomber Harris" who dependent on who you believe was a notorious war criminal who was revered simply because he was on the winning side. Just goes to prove keep politics out of sport and leave Somerset rebels alone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Forgetting any meanings people wish to add to things, the flag was a striking visual image and the replacement club logo looks naff in comparison. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Blimey how long are you lot going to grizzle about this?Haven't you got something better to do with your time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) To a small minority you are correct however however you cannot say the Confederate Flag was a symbol for white supremacy throughout the Southern states it was a flag of the people who were forced into war to free themselves and only partially about slavery, if you believe all the rubbish about Lincoln being so great read some books about the era The Confederate flag is misunderstood in much the same way that blackens the use of the Flag of St George. Surprised there is no fuss about Chris Harris use the name "Bomber Harris" who dependent on who you believe was a notorious war criminal who was revered simply because he was on the winning side. Just goes to prove keep politics out of sport and leave Somerset rebels alone. My comments make no mention of what the flag may have been originally intended to represent, but what it means to people today. Having said that, William T. Thompson the designer of the flag commented: “As a people we are fighting to maintain the heavenly ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause. Such a flag would be a suitable emblem of our young confederacy, and sustained by the brave hearts and strong arms of the south, it would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN’S FLAG.” I have lived in Atlanta for the last 16 years and been married to a black woman for the last 14 years, so I believe I have some insight into what it means to a very significant portion of the population. The state of Georgia, where I live, incorporated the Confederate flag into it's state flag in 1956. It did this in protest at Brown v. Board of Education which ended segregation in schools. A very popular Governor, Roy Barnes removed the emblem from the Georgia flag in 2001. Needless to say he did not get reelected in 2002. Having said that, my post also says that it is nothing to do with Somerset. Edited February 1, 2016 by AlanF 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 To a small minority you are correct however however you cannot say the Confederate Flag was a symbol for white supremacy throughout the Southern states it was a flag of the people who were forced into war to free themselves and only partially about slavery, if you believe all the rubbish about Lincoln being so great read some books about the era The American Civil War was fought by the southern states to free themselves from the tyranny of potentially not being allowed to maintain slavery. It can dressed up any which way, but that was the root cause. I think history has been overly kind to Lincoln and it's certainly true that slave states remained in the Union, but the heralded 'southern way of life' was based on legalised oppression of others - both before and after emancipation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 just think of it in the same way how your leaps of logic works .you know where everyone and everything that doesn't agree with you is racist , and if you have some time on your hands .one of your comrades could do with a like , his post is looking a little lonely without backup from the rest of the PC brigade I haven't called anyone a racist. I have certainly made the point that the use of a flag with strongly racist connotations against black Americans is no less significant just because no-one in that vicinity might be a black American. That's simply irrelevant. Just because nobody there is likely to feel directly targeted by it's use, doesn't make it acceptable. Most right-minded folk find any racist symbolism abhorrent whether it be intended for them or not. I'd say the poster who made that point was being ignorant. But racist? I don't know the bloke. I'm sure he's a smashing fella. Just like you. Now that's cleared up, perhaps you can have another go at explaining your use of the term 'terrorist sympathiser'? The previous attempt came across as nothing more than a muddled rant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Blimey how long are you lot going to grizzle about this?Haven't you got something better to do with your time? Not me Iris, I am too busy making a patchwork quilt, resembling the Confederate Flag, which I will be donating to charity.........if they will soil their hands and take it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I'll look at the general lee from the dukes of hazard in different light now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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