TheScotsman Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Rules is rules : suggestions is suggestions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I`d love to know why, now that Peterborough will almost certainly lose their guest facility for Olly Allen, and have to go with R/R, they may lose a meeting or two they would've won with Thorsell. Losing team, lower crowds, less money for the club, how is that in the best interests of British speedway. Peterborough have already lost the guest facility for Oliver from 1st July as he's no longer No 1 in the averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 A member of the BSPA management committee, who I wont name, suggested we tried to sign Jacob after we had initially enquired about the availability of another rider''. Â They were given duff info... Because a member of the BSPA management committee suggested looking into signing Jacob Thorsell that means that you dont check the rule book? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 A member of the BSPA management committee, who I wont name, suggested we tried to sign Jacob after we had initially enquired about the availability of another rider''. Â They were given duff info... why wont you name them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 why wont you name them Chris Van Straaten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Chris Van Straatencheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 I am right in thinking this is due to be Rob Lamberts 4th away meeting?? Â New average will then apply 7 days later. (finally!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PE7Panther Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) because they are making an illegal move, i dont understand how the BSPA are doing wrong, just simply following the rules that they have had to imply due to Peterborough not following them "...the rules that the have had to imply" ?  Oh dear... kinda implies that you don't know how to apply the correct word  If you can't get something as simple as that right it devalues the credibility of whatever you add to this discussion.  Although saying that, if only you had actually meant that the BSPA only ever "imply" rules & regs it would've been a cracking post. Sadly I doubt very much that it was what you meant!   n.b. to imply: to communicate an idea or feeling without saying it directly  Yep, that's the BSPA all right! Edited July 2, 2015 by PE7Panther 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Because a member of the BSPA management committee suggested looking into signing Jacob Thorsell that means that you dont check the rule book? If a member of the BSPA management committee doesn't know the rules, then what chance has this sport got. If it's not allowed that's fair enough, no gripes here on that score, but you would expect clear and precise information to come from someone on the MC surely.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 “A member of the BSPA management committee, who I won’t name, suggested we tried to sign Jacob after we had initially enquired about the availability of another rider''.  They were given duff info...  I can see both sides of this.  This isn't the first time 'a member of the BSPA management committee, who I won't name' has suggested something not quite as per the rules and got his way - the time in question he just changed the rule to suit - but that was to benefit his own team and, of course, in the best interests of speedway. So I can understand the Panthers' management taking the 'suggestion' the way they did and going along with it.  I can also see this from the other viewpoint, that of another MC member who sees it as against the rules, favouring one club to the detriment of the others (possibly his own club included) and not in the interests of speedway so making moves to veto the change.  Why didn't Panthers carry on the interest in this other rider though once this veto was apparent? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 This is just one more episode in British speedway that proves that it needs restructuring at the top end with preferably ex riders with a brain running it that have no conflict of interests. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 CVS didnt need to check the rules, he wouldnt of thought to check the rules for signing a premier league rider from the elite league as he is an elite league promoter, it is Peterborough's job to make sure that they are able to make this signing and after the BSPA has approved it is when they should announce it to their fans 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 It seems to me that the phrase " in the interests of speedway " covers a lot of bases , what's good for the goose isn't necessarily what's good for the gander when it comes to applying the rules in our sport , as a previous poster mentioned this is just another instance that's shows why the s port needs an independent ruling body , but as we've been waiting since the 60's for that to be established I won't be holding my breathe on it happening anytime soon . On another note I'm slightly surprised and disappointed that promotion have decided not to reduce admission prices for this fixture , in fact a recent newsletter said that there would be " no extra cost " for this match , I didn't realise that it was a policy to increase turnstile prices when a club was on TV . It's been shown in recent matches live on Sky that reducing admission prices helps to boost the crowd levels . I would have thought that this meeting would be a perfect opportunity to target the holidaymakers staying in the Berwick area and maybe a reduction in admission prices would be a good incentive . A free match programme is very commendable but isn't really going to excite any Panthers fans and get them driving up the A1 to Berwick is it ? and the free one for the next home match is only any good if you're a Bandits fan . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 It seems to me that the phrase " in the interests of speedway " covers a lot of bases , what's good for the goose isn't necessarily what's good for the gander when it comes to applying the rules in our sport , as a previous poster mentioned this is just another instance that's shows why the s port needs an independent ruling body , but as we've been waiting since the 60's for that to be established I won't be holding my breathe on it happening anytime soon . On another note I'm slightly surprised and disappointed that promotion have decided not to reduce admission prices for this fixture , in fact a recent newsletter said that there would be " no extra cost " for this match , I didn't realise that it was a policy to increase turnstile prices when a club was on TV . It's been shown in recent matches live on Sky that reducing admission prices helps to boost the crowd levels . I would have thought that this meeting would be a perfect opportunity to target the holidaymakers staying in the Berwick area and maybe a reduction in admission prices would be a good incentive . A free match programme is very commendable but isn't really going to excite any Panthers fans and get them driving up the A1 to Berwick is it ? and the free one for the next home match is only any good if you're a Bandits fan . Concidering the financial state at Berwick, it makes sense not to reduce the prices, make hay while the sunshines. On previous occasions when the prices were reduced at Berwick it did not make a blind bit of difference in the attendance, it did achieve a reductioin in revenue. Giving a free programmes is in effect a reduction, also another free programme on the Sat if you keep your ticket is a bonus. To be honest, just as a financial decision there should be no free programmes, this is a business and it needs to balance its books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 After the weather of the last few days, let us be thankful the cameras weren't coming to cover this meeting this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Angus Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Concidering the financial state at Berwick, it makes sense not to reduce the prices, make hay while the sunshines. On previous occasions when the prices were reduced at Berwick it did not make a blind bit of difference in the attendance, it did achieve a reductioin in revenue. Giving a free programmes is in effect a reduction, also another free programme on the Sat if you keep your ticket is a bonus. To be honest, just as a financial decision there should be no free programmes, this is a business and it needs to balance its books. A valid, sensible post from To The Point. Â Absolutely correct, well-observed comment that man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Peterborough have signed young Dane Emil Grondal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedthebaw Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 This is just one more episode in British speedway that proves that it needs restructuring at the top end with preferably ex riders with a brain running it that have no conflict of interests. Ex riders with a brain ????? About as rare as rocking horse poo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Amazing what you find out on the street got talking to someone on local street who knows i go to speedway if you live in East Lothian it maybe in your interest to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Is it not in the Berwick "policy rules" not to talk "in the street" it only leads to rumours which have nothing to do with Berwick Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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