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Berwick V Peterborough (on Sky) Wed, July 8th


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I`d love to know why, now that Peterborough will almost certainly lose their guest facility for Olly Allen, and have to go with R/R, they may lose a meeting or two they would've won with Thorsell. Losing team, lower crowds, less money for the club, how is that in the best interests of British speedway.

Peterborough have already lost the guest facility for Oliver from 1st July as he's no longer No 1 in the averages.

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A member of the BSPA management committee, who I wont name, suggested we tried to sign Jacob after we had initially enquired about the availability of another rider''.

 

They were given duff info...

Because a member of the BSPA management committee suggested looking into signing Jacob Thorsell that means that you dont check the rule book?
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I am right in thinking this is due to be Rob Lamberts 4th away meeting??

 

New average will then apply 7 days later. (finally!!)

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because they are making an illegal move, i dont understand how the BSPA are doing wrong, just simply following the rules that they have had to imply due to Peterborough not following them

"...the rules that the have had to imply" ?

 

Oh dear... kinda implies that you don't know how to apply the correct word :rolleyes:

 

If you can't get something as simple as that right it devalues the credibility of whatever you add to this discussion.

 

Although saying that, if only you had actually meant that the BSPA only ever "imply" rules & regs :unsure: it would've been a cracking post. Sadly I doubt very much that it was what you meant!

 

 

n.b.

to imply: to communicate an idea or feeling without saying it directly

 

Yep, that's the BSPA all right! :lol:

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Because a member of the BSPA management committee suggested looking into signing Jacob Thorsell that means that you dont check the rule book?

If a member of the BSPA management committee doesn't know the rules, then what chance has this sport got. If it's not allowed that's fair enough, no gripes here on that score, but you would expect clear and precise information to come from someone on the MC surely..

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“A member of the BSPA management committee, who I won’t name, suggested we tried to sign Jacob after we had initially enquired about the availability of another rider''.

 

They were given duff info...

 

I can see both sides of this.

 

This isn't the first time 'a member of the BSPA management committee, who I won't name' has suggested something not quite as per the rules and got his way - the time in question he just changed the rule to suit - but that was to benefit his own team and, of course, in the best interests of speedway. So I can understand the Panthers' management taking the 'suggestion' the way they did and going along with it.

 

I can also see this from the other viewpoint, that of another MC member who sees it as against the rules, favouring one club to the detriment of the others (possibly his own club included) and not in the interests of speedway so making moves to veto the change.

 

Why didn't Panthers carry on the interest in this other rider though once this veto was apparent?

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CVS didnt need to check the rules, he wouldnt of thought to check the rules for signing a premier league rider from the elite league as he is an elite league promoter, it is Peterborough's job to make sure that they are able to make this signing and after the BSPA has approved it is when they should announce it to their fans

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It seems to me that the phrase " in the interests of speedway " covers a lot of bases , what's good for the goose isn't necessarily what's good for the gander when it comes to applying the rules in our sport , as a previous poster mentioned this is just another instance that's shows why the s port needs an independent ruling body , but as we've been waiting since the 60's for that to be established I won't be holding my breathe on it happening anytime soon .

On another note I'm slightly surprised and disappointed that promotion have decided not to reduce admission prices for this fixture , in fact a recent newsletter said that there would be " no extra cost " for this match , I didn't realise that it was a policy to increase turnstile prices when a club was on TV . It's been shown in recent matches live on Sky that reducing admission prices helps to boost the crowd levels . I would have thought that this meeting would be a perfect opportunity to target the holidaymakers staying in the Berwick area and maybe a reduction in admission prices would be a good incentive . A free match programme is very commendable but isn't really going to excite any Panthers fans and get them driving up the A1 to Berwick is it ? and the free one for the next home match is only any good if you're a Bandits fan .

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It seems to me that the phrase " in the interests of speedway " covers a lot of bases , what's good for the goose isn't necessarily what's good for the gander when it comes to applying the rules in our sport , as a previous poster mentioned this is just another instance that's shows why the s port needs an independent ruling body , but as we've been waiting since the 60's for that to be established I won't be holding my breathe on it happening anytime soon .

On another note I'm slightly surprised and disappointed that promotion have decided not to reduce admission prices for this fixture , in fact a recent newsletter said that there would be " no extra cost " for this match , I didn't realise that it was a policy to increase turnstile prices when a club was on TV . It's been shown in recent matches live on Sky that reducing admission prices helps to boost the crowd levels . I would have thought that this meeting would be a perfect opportunity to target the holidaymakers staying in the Berwick area and maybe a reduction in admission prices would be a good incentive . A free match programme is very commendable but isn't really going to excite any Panthers fans and get them driving up the A1 to Berwick is it ? and the free one for the next home match is only any good if you're a Bandits fan .

Concidering the financial state at Berwick, it makes sense not to reduce the prices, make hay while the sunshines. On previous occasions when the prices were reduced at Berwick it did not make a blind bit of difference in the attendance, it did achieve a reductioin in revenue. Giving a free programmes is in effect a reduction, also another free programme on the Sat if you keep your ticket is a bonus. To be honest, just as a financial decision there should be no free programmes, this is a business and it needs to balance its books.

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Concidering the financial state at Berwick, it makes sense not to reduce the prices, make hay while the sunshines. On previous occasions when the prices were reduced at Berwick it did not make a blind bit of difference in the attendance, it did achieve a reductioin in revenue. Giving a free programmes is in effect a reduction, also another free programme on the Sat if you keep your ticket is a bonus. To be honest, just as a financial decision there should be no free programmes, this is a business and it needs to balance its books.

A valid, sensible post from To The Point.

 

Absolutely correct, well-observed comment that man!

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