Berwick V Peterborough (on Sky) Wed, July 8th

[penchev]

Jorgensen being the home rider knew there was nowhere for Lambert to go but he still did it. Lambert's bike not having any brakes to slow it down and not having anywhere to go was in a hopeless situation and a bad incident was inevitable. I still blame Jorgensen for being too dangerous.

Truly deluded! how can you blame Jorgensen for that? racing incident as they say.

[To The Point]

I agree with Barrow boy..Lambert made it to first bend pretty much level with TJ then TJ turned left and put Lambert up the grass slope which I think is too steep to be next to a speedway track..if it was any other track Lambert would probably had his front wheel over white line and come out of first bend in front..I didn't think it was a bad meeting but then that's probably because I enjoyed watching us smash what I thought was a good Berwick team..Simon Lambo superb..man of the season award already for me..again we chose good guests..and the most amazing thing for me was that panthers all found they're gating gloves again after month of them going missing!..Konopka is a decent gater..but please Ged either help him out with an engine or tell him to pin it more as his first bends ain't to bad so he's half way there!..In terms of Bandits TJ looked as superb as ever but what has happened to R.Hall since I last checked his scores?..for me Berwick looks a great track and stadium and also I think they are mostly all better standard than some of the elite league stadiums..if u can call them that.. (Lakeside, B.Vue).

Berwick Bandits are very lucky to have the use of Berwick Rangers Stadium, speedway clears up any mess made after a meeting, but the stadium lease is owned by Berwick Rangers Supporters Club who maintain the stadium.

[barrow boy]

Truly deluded! how can you blame Jorgensen for that? racing incident as they say.

You have your opinion, I have mine. We'll just have to disagree I suppose.

[To The Point]

You have your opinion, I have mine. We'll just have to disagree I suppose.

I wasn't there, so I re-run the incident several times. I would put it down to a racing incident, 2 riders going for the same bit of track. Isn't that why it is called racing. When you are in racing mode you are gunning for position, I would say both riders were just doing that.

[penchev]

I wasn't there, so I re-run the incident several times. I would put it down to a racing incident, 2 riders going for the same bit of track. Isn't that why it is called racing. When you are in racing mode you are gunning for position, I would say both riders were just doing that.

Thankyou

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

I wasn't there, so I re-run the incident several times. I would put it down to a racing incident, 2 riders going for the same bit of track. Isn't that why it is called racing. When you are in racing mode you are gunning for position, I would say both riders were just doing that.

agree with Barrow Boy - thought TJs move was dangerous. It OK wanting to be on the same bit of track but when another rider is already there its not allowed!!

To Fromafar - I dont thibk Lambert chose to go to the grass he was forced there by the move from TJ.

[scoobydoo]

Truly deluded! how can you blame Jorgensen for that? racing incident as they say.

Jorgensen was learning hard left with his body weight which forced Lambert to his left ,if he was sat upright there would of been the room for them both , he had his right to stand his ground but by forcing Lambert to the left he could of injured not only Lambert but as the crash evolved he could of injured two other riders including his team mate Doolan

Edited July 10, 2015 by scoobydoo

[To The Point]

Jorgensen was learning hard left with his body weight which forced Lambert to his left ,if he was sat upright there would of been the room for them both , he had his right to stand his ground but by forcing Lambert to the left he could of injured not only Lambert but as the crash evolved he could of injured two other riders including his team mate Doolan

Sitting upright on a motorbike going around a bend, have you ever ridden a motorcycle, I lean over in my car going around a bend, as a biker it is just a natural thing you do. Looking at the recording Jorgensson looked to be in the lead, so throttle response applies to both riders, obviously neither chose to do so, something had to give.

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

Jorgensen was ahead of Lambert going into bend 1 in Heat 9 and got to the corner before him, I feel like because he got to the corner before him it completely cut Lambert off eho was just behind him and Jorgensen was leaning in to the corner, I think neither deserved to be excluded as it was a racing incidentnon the first corner and Flint the referee got it right in all 4 back, although unfortunately Robert couldn't take his place in the re-run

[To The Point]

Jorgensen was ahead of Lambert going into bend 1 in Heat 9 and got to the corner before him, I feel like because he got to the corner before him it completely cut Lambert off eho was just behind him and Jorgensen was leaning in to the corner, I think neither deserved to be excluded as it was a racing incidentnon the first corner and Flint the referee got it right in all 4 back, although unfortunately Robert couldn't take his place in the re-run

Agree, a racing incident

[scoobydoo]

Sitting upright on a motorbike going around a bend, have you ever ridden a motorcycle, I lean over in my car going around a bend, as a biker it is just a natural thing you do. Looking at the recording Jorgensson looked to be in the lead, so throttle response applies to both riders, obviously neither chose to do so, something had to give.

If you say so and yes I have ridden a motorbike he was in front but this was because he was leaning heavily on Lambert you look at your way I will look at it mine.

 

If your leaning over in your car you want to buy a better one that has stability control stops me doing that .

[chucks]

If you say so and yes I have ridden a motorbike he was in front but this was because he was leaning heavily on Lambert you look at your way I will look at it mine.

 

If your leaning over in your car you want to buy a better one that has stability control stops me doing that .

evans halshaw got a sale on right now if your looking to update your car

[Goodiepatchie]

Sitting upright on a motorbike going around a bend, have you ever ridden a motorcycle, I lean over in my car going around a bend, as a biker it is just a natural thing you do. Looking at the recording Jorgensson looked to be in the lead, so throttle response applies to both riders, obviously neither chose to do so, something had to give.

do you breathe in when your going through a tight spot too ?

[bigeddiechek]

Speedway on TV is never as good as live and that is especially true at Shielfield. You stand on the apex of the first and second bend, where I watched heat 15 from last night and see four riders all attacking the first bend, or stand against the barriers at the exit of the second bend, and the riders go wide out of the corner and you can see the whites of their eyes, or stand on the banking at the entrance to the third bend and you see the speed that they carry attacking the third / fourth bend banking, then you start to appreciate what the Berwick track has, and that is raw speed. You don't get that through the TV screen.

Even better, if you ever get the chance, watch it from the centre green. Up close, the speed, noise and the commitment of the riders will impress you. Again, you get nothing like that from TV.

Shielfield will never produce a hell of a lot of passing, the shape of the track dictates that, especially now the bikes are getting faster. Nothing the club can do about that, the football club are the landlords. What it does produce, as I've said is raw speed and fast racing.

This wasn't a party political broadcast on behalf of the club, just my opinion.

 

You've put far more eloquently than I ever could, what a I really like about the speedway at Berwick: and may others.

When you look at the crowd on Wednesday and then realise there are only about 15 of us post on here, it really shows how unrepresentative this little online place is.

 

When you see riders going round the 3rd/4th bends inches apart, at high speed, it is exhilarating.

Same reason that Sheffield is on of my favourite tracks.

 

I also like Redcar when it is well prepared. I think it is a cracking wee track, on its day.

Ipswich, another different track, but also enjoyable speedway when I've been.

 

Glasgow a good mid-sized track, but with very good racing.

 

All tracks have their plus points: although, I am being completely honest here, I'm struggling with Armadale.

 

Another good post Topsoil. Very well reasoned, and balanced. Watch you don't get the Not Having a Go At The Bandits Police on to you!

Promoter promote, supporters support.

 

That's your best one yet!

 

There used to be Colemanballs, we should have Scremballs on here.

 

Erm, the Promoters are lifelong supporters, so do you suggest they give up one of those "roles".

 

Also, the many supporters who help promote, should they give one of their "roles".

 

You'd have Berwick Speedway gone in a flash.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I think you would be happy.

If you say so and yes I have ridden a motorbike he was in front but this was because he was leaning heavily on Lambert you look at your way I will look at it mine.

 

If your leaning over in your car you want to buy a better one that has stability control stops me doing that .

 

His bike has 3 bloody wheels!

[Tsunami]

 

You've put far more eloquently than I ever could, what a I really like about the speedway at Berwick: and may others.

When you look at the crowd on Wednesday and then realise there are only about 15 of us post on here, it really shows how unrepresentative this little online place is.

 

When you see riders going round the 3rd/4th bends inches apart, at high speed, it is exhilarating.

Same reason that Sheffield is on of my favourite tracks.

 

I also like Redcar when it is well prepared. I think it is a cracking wee track, on its day.

Ipswich, another different track, but also enjoyable speedway when I've been.

 

Glasgow a good mid-sized track, but with very good racing.

 

All tracks have their plus points: although, I am being completely honest here, I'm struggling with Armadale.

 

Another good post Topsoil. Very well reasoned, and balanced. Watch you don't get the Not Having a Go At The Bandits Police on to you!

 

That's your best one yet!

 

There used to be Colemanballs, we should have Scremballs on here.

 

Erm, the Promoters are lifelong supporters, so do you suggest they give up one of those "roles".

 

Also, the many supporters who help promote, should they give one of their "roles".

 

 

 

 

 

 

You'd have Berwick Speedway gone in a flash.

 

And I think you would be happy.

 

 

 

 

His bike has 3 bloody wheels!

What a stupid statement.

[bigeddiechek]

What a stupid statement.

 

I'm not going to agree, or disagree with you.

Just stating what many silent readers of this forum have observed.

Edited July 10, 2015 by bigeddiechek

[Tsunami]

 

I'm not going to agree, or disagree with you.

Just stating what many silent readers of this forum have observed.

Perhaps if that is the best THEY can come up with, we should be greatfull they are silent.

[David Johnston1]

I wasn't there, so I re-run the incident several times. I would put it down to a racing incident, 2 riders going for the same bit of track. Isn't that why it is called racing. When you are in racing mode you are gunning for position, I would say both riders were just doing that.

I don't have sky so I cannot watch it back.

From where I was standing Thomas was going straight and Robert's right hand hit Thomas's left arm (initial contact on the straight).

Thomas then took his line into the corner (if Robert was alongside Thomas he could dictate the corner).

Robert then hit Thomas's back wheel and released the bike when it reared.

 

Not sure why anyone can blame Thomas for the incident myself (none of the fans on the first bend beside me were blaming Thomas either).

[screm]

 

What a stupid statement.

 

That's your best one yet!

 

There used to be Colemanballs, we should have Scremballs on here.

 

Erm, the Promoters are lifelong supporters, so do you suggest they give up one of those "roles".

 

Also, the many supporters who help promote, should they give one of their "roles".

 

You'd have Berwick Speedway gone in a flash.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I think you would be happy.

 

 

 

To be fair Tsunami this poster seems to have cornered the market in stupid statements, as he will now prove.

[screm]

I don't have sky so I cannot watch it back.

From where I was standing Thomas was going straight and Robert's right hand hit Thomas's left arm (initial contact on the straight).

Thomas then took his line into the corner (if Robert was alongside Thomas he could dictate the corner).

Robert then hit Thomas's back wheel and released the bike when it reared.

 

Not sure why anyone can blame Thomas for the incident myself (none of the fans on the first bend beside me were blaming Thomas either).

 

Haven't watched it back on tv yet but from my position there was contract all the way into the first corner, no more than a racing incident IMO. Sad that Lambert had to withdraw as he was a pleasure to watch, and there is no doubt that Peterborough would've won by a more comfortable margin had he completed his last three rides.