MD Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Funny how most of the last page of posters weren't at the match and why you can't draw conclusions for watching live updates. Ht6 Birks went under Sarjeant off bend 4 carried too much speed into the first bend and lost it. Injured his shoulder and withdrawn, rider error. Ht7 Morris bike cut out thundering into the third bend and he came down a cropper. Withdrawn from the meeting, cause - bike issue. In the rerun likewise happened to Compton who then had bike issues for the rest of the evening. Ht7 the moronic Garrity carried far too much speed down the backstraight, went under Lawson almost wiping him out, was never going to make the turn and fell leaving Bellego nowhere to go but run into him on the deck. I thought it was telling that once on his feet Bellego never even turned round to check on his team mate but walked back to the pits on his own. Bellego withdrawn because of his team mate. In the rerun the absolutely wild Bates binned it on the exiting the first bend realising he would make it out of the second bend. Rider error. I could quite happily not see him at a speedway track anytime soon, his scores on the updates are deceptive as when he wasn't locking up he was running out of control to scrape the fence, no one would dare get near him. Once again Glasgow were there for the taking, Berge was poor at reserve though Garrity cost it for Sheffield with his absolute stupidity. Unlikely to be enough points for us to take to Sheffield in 2 weeks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Exactly. I firmly believe slicker, with a small amount of dirt on the outside is the way to go. Dirt on a track lead to riders ending up everywhere, mainly the fence and on the floor! Are British tracks too narrow to handle any amount of grip? Continental tracks seem to be much wider and riders going in at greater sppeds have further to travel to the fence. Handy when you have a stadium for speedway alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highroad119 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 How Bates never came down in any of his races was a miracle , he seemed to be fighting the bike all night , but he was great to watch Doubt if dimitri snd victor would agree. Berge must have seen more lockers than a high school janny tonight. As well as all the fallers i have never seen so many riders chuck it during a race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Doubt if dimitri snd victor would agree. Berge must have seen more lockers than a high school janny tonight. As well as all the fallers i have never seen so many riders chuck it during a race. True Berge would had needed new underwear after being right behind Bates when he locked up in heat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerite Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 I was at the meeting. The track was fine up until heat 4 than a track grade made the track very tricky in the corners with riders from both sides struggling with it, it seemed far too grippy and patchy after the track grade and Glasgow is too fast a track these to be getting it wrong on track prep. Even saw Summers on the tractor with the tractor man at one point so it's clear it wasn't right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 I was at the meeting. The track was fine up until heat 4 than a track grade made the track very tricky in the corners with riders from both sides struggling with it, it seemed far too grippy and patchy after the track grade and Glasgow is too fast a track these to be getting it wrong on track prep. Even saw Summers on the tractor with the tractor man at one point so it's clear it wasn't right. Would be interesting to hear a couple of rider's views on tonight's track , certainly there were far too many falls tonight . Looked a very healthy crowd tonight for a Tuesday night meeting , hope our promotion don't get any daft ideas though as it was a bugger getting home from work and then getting to the meeting in time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerite Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) Would be interesting to hear a couple of rider's views on tonight's track , certainly there were far too many falls tonight . Looked a very healthy crowd tonight for a Tuesday night meeting , hope our promotion don't get any daft ideas though as it was a bugger getting home from work and then getting to the meeting in time Good to see you tonight mate and as usual very fair analysis of the meeting in your earlier post. Yeah these evening meetings at Glasgow aren't good for us either, gonna be a very late one home for us tonight, reminds me of the Isle of Wight days on a Tuesday night/ Wednesday mornings. Probably see you on Saturday Edited June 30, 2015 by Tigerite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 I was at the meeting. The track was fine up until heat 4 than a track grade made the track very tricky in the corners with riders from both sides struggling with it, it seemed far too grippy and patchy after the track grade and Glasgow is too fast a track these to be getting it wrong on track prep. Even saw Summers on the tractor with the tractor man at one point so it's clear it wasn't right. Other than Morris I don't recall a Glasgow rider having any issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Would be interesting to hear a couple of rider's views on tonight's track , certainly there were far too many falls tonight . Looked a very healthy crowd tonight for a Tuesday night meeting , hope our promotion don't get any daft ideas though as it was a bugger getting home from work and then getting to the meeting in time Scrabbleman's tweet........... Josh Grajczonek#2⃣8⃣ @j_boy28 10m10 minutes ago Glad I'm in 1 piece. Track was a bit gnarly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Sounds more like whoever has preped the track is a plonker tonight! Heat 7 and 3 riders withdrawn by the looks of it! Sure they didnt think monarchs were coming? track gets special attention then. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerite Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Other than Morris I don't recall a Glasgow rider having any issues. Sarj fell in Heat 8 and your reserves weren't exactly going very quick either and the very slow race times during the middle of the meeting told the story. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) Exactly. I firmly believe slicker, with a small amount of dirt on the outside is the way to go. Dirt on a track lead to riders ending up everywhere, mainly the fence and on the floor! Even layer of dirt at start of meeting with slightly more on the exits than entrances to hold the bikes up, as meeting goes on the dirt should be allowed to move out naturally, just grade it even..... The bigger and faster the track, the more dirt you can use. Edited June 30, 2015 by Dekker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Would be interesting to hear a couple of rider's views on tonight's track , certainly there were far too many falls tonight . Looked a very healthy crowd tonight for a Tuesday night meeting , hope our promotion don't get any daft ideas though as it was a bugger getting home from work and then getting to the meeting in time Summers was one of the only men not to end up on the shale, and he said: The track was a little bit iffy to start off with there was a fair bit of dirt on the entry to the corners and we were trying to get that sorted out a little bit. - See more at: http://www.glasgowtigers.co/a-long-summers-night/#sthash.AhTh9EZ2.dpuf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Sarj fell in Heat 8 and your reserves weren't exactly going very quick either and the very slow race times during the middle of the meeting told the story. Sarjeant fell on the apex of the first and second bend amongst the traffic which isn't quite the same as falling on his own. Our reserves were poor though this is par for the course this season. Victor is far too laid back when chasing down riders in front of him despite having the speed as he showed passing Compton and Berge continued a poor run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerite Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) Sarjeant fell on the apex of the first and second bend amongst the traffic which isn't quite the same as falling on his own. Our reserves were poor though this is par for the course this season. Victor is far too laid back when chasing down riders in front of him despite having the speed as he showed passing Compton and Berge continued a poor run. Andre seemed very cautious on the bike after his crash and wasn't the same rider as in heat 4 and I couldn't blame him to be honest Edited June 30, 2015 by Tigerite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hel'n'Back Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) Which says somat when he's good round Glasgow...? Edited June 30, 2015 by Hel'n'Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 how on earth do you get a new track record and then 3 riders withdrawn due to falls. way too many fallers for this meeting to carry on. its past heat 10, so lets call it a day. where is gary havelock when you need him?.. .meeting should be cut short before any more riders get injured. and there goes another 100 or so off next weeks attendance. 10 pm curfew @ glasgow ? can sheffield play their trump card and drag the meeting up to the curfew and gain 1 or 2 heats extra at home ? Shut up. Maybe we should the Christina Turnbull rule book on locking up. Garrity---lock up followed by Master Bates---lock up followed by Dimtre---shut off----race continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bri1966 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Hope all the injured riders are not too badly hurt , it did seem that the third bend especially caused most of the havoc . Track was fine to start with as Morris broke the track record , but it seemed to go downhill from the first grading after heat 4 . Morris tried to team ride Sarjeant and got too close to him on that bend and came down , so cant really put that down to the track unless Nick picked up too much grip . Birks just entered bend 1 with too much speed after passing Sarjeant on the home straight and went too wide into the fence . As for Garrity , he entered the third bend too narrow in passing Lawson , Lawson then cut back and retook him and Garrity went down on his own but his flying bike caught Bellego . As for Garrity's fall later in a race he was leading , a lot of smoke appeared from the back of his bike when he fell and possibly that was mechanical . The other falls were simple slide offs . Lawson and Summers had no issues with the track and were superb , while both Sheffield reserves were very impressive and have kept their club in this tie . 14 points is a defendable lead , but this tie will go to the wire in the second leg I think . . Ashfield the new Brough park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagy1 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 If there was more dirt on the track surely it is the riders job to "ride to the conditions". It certainly wasn't the worst prepared I have ever seen the place! It was the same for both sets of riders. Some adapted some didn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Just been reading all the keyboard warriors posts now i will give you a ringside view off the incidents.[1] Sissis and Sarjeants falls bends 1/2 just slid off ran out off racing room [2] Bates bend 2 just fell to much speed [3] Compton trying a big blast round bends 3/4 fell [4] Morris rider error dont know what he was trying Sarjeant riding outside him on a easy 5-1 [5] saved the best to last GARRITY bend 3 flies inside Lawson only one result down he goes how Lawson managed to avoid him but poor Bellego cant Bellego gets up not even a glance to see how Garrity is, his second fall must have fallen asleep on last bend as he so far in front [6]sorry forgot about Birks rider error to much speed going into bend 1 after overtake in home sraight. Grajczonek tweet are you going to say track great but i was rubbish seemed to cope with track in his first 4 rides in his ride 5 got caught behind guess who so decided to make the decission to retire from the race.Just my opinion from somebody who was there. Edited July 1, 2015 by MANSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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