Gemini Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Don't be too surprised though if you see another meeting from Leicester in a few weeks though as another fixture is looking like another good possible TV match Hope it's not Swindon again as they're back for Leicester's next home meeting in 12 days time. Who on earth sorts out the fixture list? Surely it is possible to plan things so as not have the same team in opposition 2 weeks running? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 I must say that the last few meetings of last season and quite a few this season have seen far better racing than we saw last night. I think most of the fault lay with the lack luster display from Swindon. It was a mirror image of last seasons meeting when sky where there and again against Swindon. With Rosco looking much how he was last night with his bottom jaw dragging along the ground, They wanted him to come and speak to the fans at the end of the meeting, but the whole team had packed up and gone. When he is on the losing end of things he is a real moody sod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 The racing last night wasn't great. However, to read all the comments you would think that every other track in the country produces the finest racing the world has ever seen. Generally speaking, week in week out, you are lucky to see a decent race once in a blue moon at any track in the uk. Good meetings are very much few and far between. In fact, I don't think I have seen what you could term as a genuinely great speedway meeting for a very long time.............Anywhere. Losers always whine.......the easiest thing is to point the finger at the track......you are right, I go to between 2 and 4 meetings every week and 75% of the races are first from the gate,same as it ever was....by the way I thought Swindon were absolute pants nearly on par with Wolves who are the worst team in the league by a country mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) Losers always whine.......the easiest thing is to point the finger at the track......you are right, I go to between 2 and 4 meetings every week and 75% of the races are first from the gate,same as it ever was....by the way I thought Swindon were absolute pants nearly on par with Wolves who are the worst team in the league by a country mile.When did Rosco moan & also when has it been normal for the away team manager to go on the Mike after a meeting?. I'd imagine he just wanted to get home but if he did talk on the mike in the past when Swindon won at Leicester you do have a point. Leicester have been pants at Swindon in the past so no real point there & will finish below them AGAIN in the league. Edited June 30, 2015 by Crazy robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsc1 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) I spoke with one of the track men who said they had both been told how the track should be prepared before racing. Could it be that Glyn only came out when told to do so.[/quot Edited July 1, 2015 by tsc1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham78 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Pleased for Leicester last night, big crowd on a fine summers evening just proves if the weather's good and the admission fee is right the fans will come. Thought the Robins were disappointing and the Miedzinski appearance was just out of convenience so that Rosco can re-declare, AM just wasn't interested and pulled up very early in each race, Praise for Zengi and Charlie Wright who both gave their all and scored decent points. It is becoming a trait with Batch that if he misses the gate he loses interest - unlike Nick Morris who always sticks at it.Troy hasn't been right this season, maybe the accident he had against Poole at the beginning of the season has knocked his confidence? I'm a fan of Kyle Howarth but he is struggling at the moment and seems short of power. Work for Rosco to do if the Robins are going to make the top 4 this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Intersting stat. Guest riders made up 29% of Lions and scored 27% of points. on a comparative note. Walasek's average for home meetings is 9+ and Lambert only scored 6. I am pretty sure Auty would have scored close to the same as Wilko (who rode very well) given the opposition. so whilst agreeing the guests had a part to play Swindon on this occasion were indeed just fodder. Howver, I think some folk on here would have prefered the Lions to have let the Robins pass them to make the meeting more interesting!! The guests they used against Wolves certainly made them stronger, seems a coincidence the more guests the better the result! Difficult to know if Leicester were that much better or Swindon much poorer/average dropping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 The guests they used against Wolves certainly made them stronger, seems a coincidence the more guests the better the result! Difficult to know if Leicester were that much better or Swindon much poorer/average dropping. We'll find out Thursday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 We'll find out Thursday Be embarrassing to lose to us, hopefully you can try for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Is this a fact or something you think happens?. If it's fact, do you know the reason behind it? Think I can help you there. EL promoters agreed a contract in about 2009 which effectively handed control of track preparation to GSI for all Sky broadcast matches. This was part of the overall contract covering such matches, and has remained in effect even after the expiry of the more substantial sponsorship deal with Sky a couple of years ago. Last season the BP track for the live match was prepared in such a way that made it dangerous in my opinion - in an effort to produce incidents. This year it was probably not quite as dangerous but still doctored so as to produce incidents, which it did and it was again fortunate that no rider was seriously injured. I am sure that if Glyn Taylor had been in full control of prep, riders would not have been slithering and bouncing around looking like novices at times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Think I can help you there. EL promoters agreed a contract in about 2009 which effectively handed control of track preparation to GSI for all Sky broadcast matches. This was part of the overall contract covering such matches, and has remained in effect even after the expiry of the more substantial sponsorship deal with Sky a couple of years ago. Last season the BP track for the live match was prepared in such a way that made it dangerous in my opinion - in an effort to produce incidents. This year it was probably not quite as dangerous but still doctored so as to produce incidents, which it did and it was again fortunate that no rider was seriously injured. I am sure that if Glyn Taylor had been in full control of prep, riders would not have been slithering and bouncing around looking like novices at times! But I thought that happened whether Sky/GSI are there or not!!!? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Robert72- Sky do not mind filming at Leicester but the matches that can be shown are quite limited due to the lighting not being up to the correct levels. In fact they are made very welcome unlike some places So limited to just showing matches when the evenings are the longest if Leicester had a good season and made the playoffs in September/ October then extra lighting would need to be be hired in for the occasion even last night in the last few heats the engineering team were struggling with the light and had to use some digital image stabilisers to keep pics looking ok. Don't be too surprised though if you see another meeting from Leicester in a few weeks though as another fixture is looking like another good possible TV match I am not sure I buy into your reasons why sky haven't been to Leicester earlier due to poor floodlights,Swindons are imho a lot worse,belle vue,lakeside too,also can't remember Wolverhampton being any brighter. Why have sky not shown Leicester away from home yet either, not bright enough team kevlars ? I think there is more to it as several premier league team have had more coverage on sky than Leicester. Edited July 1, 2015 by robert72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Robert72- It is fact about the lighting at Leicester and if you watch any of the Clean cut sports DVDs or the footage Sky did at EL riders final you will see the reason why especially bends 2 & 4. I know David Hemsley has looked at upgrading the lighting to the correct Lumen levels but would cost around 10-15k to do which for maybe two more Sky meetings not worth it at the min: With regards to away fixtures it does not help that Leicester have struggled both seasons in the EL but as I said previously there is a good possibility that Sky will be back at Leicester in Aug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I am not sure I buy into your reasons why sky haven't been to Leicester earlier due to poor floodlights,Swindons are imho a lot worse,belle vue,lakeside too,also can't remember Wolverhampton being any brighter. Why have sky not shown Leicester away from home yet either, not bright enough team kevlars ? I think there is more to it as several premier league team have had more coverage on sky than Leicester. Who are these 'several PL teams'??? Name and shame I say!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 LOL one fact I can tell you is gospeed sky or big Ron not one of them tell the track man how to prep the track!........ Think I can help you there. EL promoters agreed a contract in about 2009 which effectively handed control of track preparation to GSI for all Sky broadcast matches. This was part of the overall contract covering such matches, and has remained in effect even after the expiry of the more substantial sponsorship deal with Sky a couple of years ago. Last season the BP track for the live match was prepared in such a way that made it dangerous in my opinion - in an effort to produce incidents. This year it was probably not quite as dangerous but still doctored so as to produce incidents, which it did and it was again fortunate that no rider was seriously injured. I am sure that if Glyn Taylor had been in full control of prep, riders would not have been slithering and bouncing around looking like novices at times! Seems to be contradicting opinions here. I very much doubt if Glyn will comment but I have an idea tsc1 might know exactly what he's talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Who are these 'several PL teams'??? Name and shame I say!! Nothing wrong with premier league racing on sky far from it,just a shame Leicester has been over looked by sky. However If what flagrag says is correct that the floodlights are the reason then the blame falls to DH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Robert72- It is fact about the lighting at Leicester and if you watch any of the Clean cut sports DVDs or the footage Sky did at EL riders final you will see the reason why especially bends 2 & 4. I know David Hemsley has looked at upgrading the lighting to the correct Lumen levels but would cost around 10-15k to do which for maybe two more Sky meetings not worth it at the min: With regards to away fixtures it does not help that Leicester have struggled both seasons in the EL but as I said previously there is a good possibility that Sky will be back at Leicester in Aug So how will the track be spiced-up for that one? Seems to be contradicting opinions here. I very much doubt if Glyn will comment but I have an idea tsc1 might know exactly what he's talking about. tsc1 contradicted his own previous post!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Which one? He quoted Barrow Boy's post but doesn't seem to have replied to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Which one? He quoted Barrow Boy's post but doesn't seem to have replied to it. In that case i agree with Barrow Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Mate i don't like to dampen your post, but Ronnie Russell has nothing to do with track prep at any sky meeting, including ours i might hasten to add, except for his own at Swindon. Enjoyed the meeting on Sky last night and just about a fair result for both teams considering the absent riders and - as riders from both teams commented - "a track very different to normal!!". So well done to Sky's/GSI's Ronnie Russell (Meeting Co-ordinator) for getting the track prep sorted!!!! (I am right, aren't I, that it is him rather than the home track staff that are responsible for Sky meetings?! ) In that case i agree with Barrow Boy Glyn posts on here so I hope he will speak up if it wasn't his track prep yesterday but I was made aware he was in control of it. When a match is on Sky the local track guys have to prepare it the way Ronnie Russell dictates. Blame him if the racing was not good enough. Recent matches at Leicester have been ok. Why don't they leave it to the experts. I spoke with one of the track men who said they had both been told how the track should be prepared before racing. Could it be that Glyn only came out when told to do so. It's as if everyone has had to sign the official secrets act as to who exactly is in charge of track preparation on Sky nights. No-one seems to know which scenario is actually correct and no-one is willing to say anything. Even tsc1 has been going around deleting his posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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