MrMungo Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Poor Tungate had a nightmare. On a win or paid win in his first 2 rides when they were stopped. His bad day was further compounded by putting himself in the pits fence after heat 13 Thankfully, he got up okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) As others have said, we had to wait until heat 13 to get a pass, and that was only because the hapless Tungate rode the wrong line and let Mr Popular go around him. Once again our new Manager made all the right calls all Weekend and was let down, but no doubt 1 or 2 will still blame him for 2 more defeats. We lost 3 points due to reruns, as we were leading when the race was stopped, but had that not happened then we wouldn't have used the double anyway, so I don't recall us throwing away many points, only Tungate in 13 was a chuck away. So we've got 4 riders doing their stuff, 2 not, and one coming back very soon. I'm sure the Hawful Hawkins is doing all he can to sort things out, and hopefully he soon will, but Tungate is a worry, I just hate it when he goes into the bend like a novice who's just switched from grasstrack, or has he always done that?  Really liked the improvements made to the stadium, I hope the owners get rewarded with bigger crowds. Depends what you call chucking away points. Gating in the lead and being overtaken coming out of bends many times. tungate not being able to enter turns and crashing in a 3 man race. Stefan going into side of covatti and falling off when in point scoring positions and tungate clearly riding the wrong line when overtaken in 13. But fair play to him it's the line he always on in most races at most tracks. As for his novice style of entering turns, he does it a lot and you can notice it more on away tracks for some reason. He seems to look nervous on the bike for whole races and whole meetings sometimes. What I find most annoying about him though is we know he can be as fast as hell when he likes a track and is in front. Maybe he lacks that extra bit of ruthlessness that is needed to make the step up. For example on Thursday he had 2 clear chances to pass up inside and he decided to shut off both times. The gaps have to be huge for him to attempt a pass. His ridding style and body position on a bike certainly limit his chances of making a step up. Having said all that, I didn't expect him to drop his average like he has, so maybe he has other issues which are effecting his Racing? There is something not right with him and Hawkins which is effecting them. Watching Hawkins so far behind is not good to watch, it was like he wasn't even attempting to bother apart from making a big fuss about the pole at the starting gate. What I have seen over the last few days Though is we can beat anyone away with this team if a couple of them could score A couple more or just score anything. Edited June 22, 2015 by baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Hawkins did his job on Thursday - 7+1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Hawkins did his job on Thursday - 7+1. Â One of the only times he has done this season , but he did do a very good job on Thursday protecting Halsey for 4 laps in one race . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Is there more to this arm problem that cost us the cup match than meets the eye? He used to be able to pass on the outside at home, but not now. He falls when under no pressure, just a thought. But whatever it is, there appears to be something wrong these past few meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Hawkins rattled into the fence at high speed in his second ride when on his own at the back and it clearly knocked the stuffing out of him. As for the incident with the pole at the start line, it was there to stop the tapes blowing into the riders, no one else had an issue with it and it wasn't impeding his view of the tapes in any way, can only put it down to him getting a nose bleed he was so far north. Â Tungate yesterday is pretty much what he is always like at Ashfield, its surprising how Ipswich fans are not aware of this. One more point from him would have got them a deserved draw against an unconvincing home side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Depends what you call chucking away points. Gating in the lead and being overtaken coming out of bends many times. We went around them on the first bend, it depended on what gate you were in. The outside gates put you in a position to pass, when for the inside you lost so much ground moving wide to get on the only line, but with that in mind, I was surprised Danny and Nico chose 1 and 3 in 15, with a point secured I'd have gone for 2 and 4, but they obviously had a plan, shame it didn't come off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Somethings a miss with RT, speed is there, beat Brady Kurtz by a country mile at Peterborough and did hold off Oystercard for the required point and the win in 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 That's the thing. I think there is more going on with him than we know. Maybe he doesn't get along with another team mate or maybe the manager or management. Maybe it could be that since covatti has come into the team rohan isn't in the lime light as much and he may thrive on limelight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 As you say Baldyman something more might be amiss with RT . End of last season when he took the No1 race jacket of Worrall he was flying but come this season he seems to have retreated into his shell . Â Maybe he don't like it that he's not the quickest witch as foxhall right now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 That's twice this season I've seen Ipswich away from home , and twice Covatti has been their best rider . We just couldn't put Ipswich away yesterday , despite being 11 points ahead at one point . There is just something not quite clicking with the Tigers at home at the moment , but you now get 3 points whether you win by 2 or 32 , so i'll take the 2 every week . Not the most entertaining of meeting , heat 13 apart , but it was an important win nevertheless . Seems Ipswich are better on the road than they are at home just now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 That's twice this season I've seen Ipswich away from home , and twice Covatti has been their best rider . We just couldn't put Ipswich away yesterday , despite being 11 points ahead at one point . There is just something not quite clicking with the Tigers at home at the moment , but you now get 3 points whether you win by 2 or 32 , so i'll take the 2 every week . Not the most entertaining of meeting , heat 13 apart , but it was an important win nevertheless . Seems Ipswich are better on the road than they are at home just now Paulco's right about taking the win, albeit I'd prefer to be 6 points up with one race to go! Tigers are currently 3rd in the league and in the Cup semis but are still not clicking - god knows what will happen when they do. With all the points scored on the road I'm sure the new owners will be happy they are not hammering teams at home - think of the points money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Close wins keep the fans happy, unless you support the Moanarchs ofcourse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 51-39 is always a good score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 51-39 is always a good score.It is , but I cant recall us beating anybody by that score at home this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummiestormer Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 That was a pretty entertaining meeting . Wee Nick's ride in heat 13 was worth the admission alone . So glad he rides for us I'm pissed by the way , certain couple of Birmingham fans saw to that haha End of the day , I don't care about rule books and speedway's red tape , I just want to watch four riders on a track . And heat 13 today , Nick Morris take a bow son , that was amazing Glad to oblige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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