ivanhoward Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Bjerre - 6pts from 5 rides. Need we say any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starboy118 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Bjerre - 6pts from 5 rides. Need we say any more. This team needs a major overhaul. It is not the first time this season that we have seen a collapse towards the end of a meeting. On this occasion 36-36 with the final three heats resulting in 14-3 !! The motivational skills of the management and the desire of the riders have to be questioned. It will need a major improvement before any more of my hard-earned heads in the direction of the AFA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) This team needs a major overhaul. It is not the first time this season that we have seen a collapse towards the end of a meeting. On this occasion 36-36 with the final three heats resulting in 14-3 !! The motivational skills of the management and the desire of the riders have to be questioned. It will need a major improvement before any more of my hard-earned heads in the direction of the AFA. Whilst not entirely disagreeing the result of heat 14 was just unfortunate/ unlucky. We were still in with a shout of a point howeverbut heat 15 was certainly a disapointment ....and NKI and Robert are our best two riders atm!!! Edited June 19, 2015 by Star Fever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Lambert was 'first' in Heat 14 and disqualified after the race was over. Most around me had a 3 - 3 in our programmes! Edited June 20, 2015 by TonyE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 He didn't have a dirt deflector attached, crying shame! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 (edited) Not wishing to dampen Lakeside joy of winning a meeting, but bloody hell, if you cant beat a 3 man team at home, then you must be pretty bad. Coupling to that decision in heat 14, you wonder what else would have happened, to ensure that result was forthcoming?? Having decided not to travel for obvious reasons, I am at a lost of the exclusion of Robert Lambert after he had won the race. It said on twitter, the reason he was disqualified was, he had no 'Dirt Deflector'.... Why was this? had it come off during the race??, had it been knocked off?? Was it off before the start of the race.?? Did someone complain?? What rules were broken?? Can't imagine this was an oversight from the Lambert / Stars crew ?? Why wasn't it picked up before the race.?? Who was the REF ?? So many questions and no answers... The last time we travelled to Lakeside to see fixture 1, it was surprising to see the incense hatred some of their fans held for Lambert, just because he was the new man on the block. When something like this happens you have to ponder the obvious. I suppose those pre-mentioned fans went home really ecstatic last night..... Edited June 20, 2015 by GRW123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Bjerre - 6pts from 5 rides. Need we say any more. The play offs have started early this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 (edited) You know the script Bryn. Whatever the weather, whatever the state of the track just keep saying "meeting definitely on"Bryn has the decency to come on here and let everyone know what the weather conditions are and you have a pop at him. Grow up. Bjerre was poor and a pale shadow of the GP rider he was a few seasons ago. I thought this was a cracking meeting and one that reinforced my belief that Lakeside is one of the best racing tracks in the EL. I can only think that those who constantly criticise it never go there, have an axe to grind or are reliant on its reputation from years ago. Edited June 20, 2015 by Halifaxtiger 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Not wishing to dampen Lakeside joy of winning a meeting, but bloody hell, if you cant beat a 3 man team at home, then you must be pretty bad. Coupling to that decision in heat 14, you wonder what else would have happened, to ensure that result was forthcoming?? Having decided not to travel for obvious reasons, I am at a lost of the exclusion of Robert Lambert after he had won the race. It said on twitter, the reason he was disqualified was, he had no 'Dirt Deflector'.... Why was this? had it come off during the race??, had it been knocked off?? Was it off before the start of the race.?? Did someone complain?? What rules were broken?? Can't imagine this was an oversight from the Lambert / Stars crew ?? Why wasn't it picked up before the race.?? Who was the REF ?? So many questions and no answers... The last time we travelled to Lakeside to see fixture 1, it was surprising to see the incense hatred some of their fans held for Lambert, just because he was the new man on the block. When something like this happens you have to ponder the obvious. I suppose those pre-mentioned fans went home really ecstatic last night..... To be fair , Lakeside were really a four man team and although I cant fault Kyle Newman for effort he is no Richard Lawson. Ashley Birks is showing a bit more form now but still rides very wide and Mikkel Bech made his presence felt a bit more than of late. Mikkel was really the architect of Ashley's win over Robert Lambert. He tried really hard to team ride him home but Ash was riding so wide that Mikkel had too much track to cover and had to keep looking behind so much Lambert had every opportunity to slip through. Mikkel could have cleared off and won the race easily and it would still have been a 4-2 but I was impressed with his efforts to try to ride his team mate home. He has his critics but I have to say I do think he is a team player and deserves credit for that. Lambert apparently went out without a dirt deflector. Lakeside would still have won but it cost Lynn a point.. I don't know where you get this "intense hatred" from. Very OTT IMO . He was pretty much anonymous on his last visit but twice the rider this time. Goodness knows what's happened to Kenny bear. He used to be so good round Lakeside in his Peterboro days. His win over AJ shows he can still do it but just seems to vary from race to race.. To be brutally honest KL looked to me vey much like a one man band. based around Niels. Losing Rory is unfortunate and unlucky but after Lakeside's four consecutive home defeats Lynn should have been able to roll them over if they are seriously thinking about winning the play offs. Personally I think KL have lost the sparkle they had last year. It was a funny sort of match and I felt that either side could have won it but neither had the ability to take a lead and make it stick until heat 15 when the Lakeside pair were absolutely on a mission. For the first time I felt Kim looked completely comfortable in a heat 15 ride and he won it by a country mile, so good for him. So onwards and very slowly upwards for the Hammers, back to the drawing board for the Stars if they are going to get anything from the play offs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Not wishing to dampen Lakeside joy of winning a meeting, but bloody hell, if you cant beat a 3 man team at home, then you must be pretty bad. Coupling to that decision in heat 14, you wonder what else would have happened, to ensure that result was forthcoming?? [/i] I think your being a bit unfair to Lakeside. Were they not using a FDR in place of Lawson who is in great form again? To quote you "if you can't beat a 3 man team" makes it sound like you had team of guests or riders having to withdraw from meeting. Lakeside rode against 6 King's Lynn riders including a GP rider in NKI, 2 World Cup winners and one of the strongest FDR in the league. Lakeside were just better on the night and deserved their win so why should the club and their fans not been celebrating esp after the run of results or poor luck they have also had. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Bryn has the decency to come on here and let everyone know what the weather conditions are and you have a pop at him. Grow up. Bjerre was poor and a pale shadow of the GP rider he was a few seasons ago. I thought this was a cracking meeting and one that reinforced my belief that Lakeside is on the best racing tracks in the EL. I can only think that those who constantly criticise it never go there, have an axe to grind or are reliant on its reputation from years ago. It was an entertaining meeting definitely, some hard moves all round from two sides that both wanted the win. I definitely enjoy my Lakeside visits, standing on the back straight on the stock car track, close to the action as possible. The small track is a leveller, the riders can't go bombing off into the distance so there is quite a bit of close racing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 I think your being a bit unfair to Lakeside. Were they not using a FDR in place of Lawson who is in great form again? To quote you "if you can't beat a 3 man team" makes it sound like you had team of guests or riders having to withdraw from meeting. Lakeside rode against 6 King's Lynn riders including a GP rider in NKI, 2 World Cup winners and one of the strongest FDR in the league. Lakeside were just better on the night and deserved their win so why should the club and their fans not been celebrating esp after the run of results or poor luck they have also had. In all due respects you knew what I meant about a 3 man team. It's not about what riders have achieved in the past ' its about what they do on the night. I except what you say about Lawson, he is riding well, but you managed to get a guest in Newman, we couldn't even do that...... Rory always goes well there but his RR only managed 3. I don't begrudge Lakeside winning, but everyone else turns them over, there will be a lot harder places for us to go and get a result. We should have done better.... Its unfortunate we have lost Rory. I have never been one to wallow in self pity. I can accept defeat, no problem. What I find hard to accept is not putting in the effort and not bothering... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 I do think losing Rory was a huge blow for King's Lynn as he was worth more points each meeting than his average suggested. I do think it's sad that Schlein guested for most teams and was often a match winner for them (was the difference when guesting for Poole at Brandon unfortunately) but yet there seems to be a lack of riders available or willing to guest in place of him for King's Lynn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 A very good meeting last night, probably the best of the season at arena. The stars were half a lap away from going into the last race level, but ended up losing by eleven! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 My first visit to Lakeside this season, good racing from both sides. Heat 10, what was Lambert doing pulling wheelies at the back, pet hate of mine, had to pinch myself i was not watching Bridger!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim3751 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Criticism of Lambert? Really? I thought he looked very confident as though he knows he's a top rider already. Although I appreciated his move on Bech on turn 1 of the rerun Heat 8 it looked - from a fair distance away- that there was no way by. And perhaps Bech felt that too because he wasn't as friendly afterwards as beaten riders usually are. How did someone on the home straight see it? Anyway the ref thought it was ok. Heat 14. A missing dirt deflector and no one noticed it before the start? He leaves the pits in front of expert observers - he lines up where there's not only a start marshall but the ref looking down yet it wasn't spotted. Ridiculous! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Criticism of Lambert? Really? I thought he looked very confident as though he knows he's a top rider already. Although I appreciated his move on Bech on turn 1 of the rerun Heat 8 it looked - from a fair distance away- that there was no way by. And perhaps Bech felt that too because he wasn't as friendly afterwards as beaten riders usually are. How did someone on the home straight see it? Anyway the ref thought it was ok. Heat 14. A missing dirt deflector and no one noticed it before the start? He leaves the pits in front of expert observers - he lines up where there's not only a start marshall but the ref looking down yet it wasn't spotted. Ridiculous! It does seem strange that the missing deflector wasn't spotted earlier. I would have thought it was in the referee's start line check list - everyone in the right place etc The cynical amongst us might suggest it wasn't in Lakeside's interest to spot it at the outset! All that said, it was a good meeting racing wise and, from my position on the back straight, Lambert's move on Bech looked downright dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 It does seem strange that the missing deflector wasn't spotted earlier. I would have thought it was in the referee's start line check list - everyone in the right place etc The cynical amongst us might suggest it wasn't in Lakeside's interest to spot it at the outset! All that said, it was a good meeting racing wise and, from my position on the back straight, Lambert's move on Bech looked downright dangerous. Yes i agree with you, the move on Bech was a tad over the top, i'm all for hard riding, but for what its worth, i was at Plymouth the other night & his move on Holder, well lets just say the reff got it spot on excluding him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Don't think many Lakeside fans dislike Lambert, he got the biggest round of applause, out of the Lynn riders, when introduced on the parade Thought his move on Bech was a bit strong, dive bombing underneath him into T1. Seemed like he was frustrated at being held up & just went for it, but hey-ho he pulled it off Great racing last night & Lynn were unlucky not to at least get a point. Just relieved we managed to get a win at last. Allelujah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Criticism of Lambert? Really? I thought he looked very confident as though he knows he's a top rider already. Although I appreciated his move on Bech on turn 1 of the rerun Heat 8 it looked - from a fair distance away- that there was no way by. And perhaps Bech felt that too because he wasn't as friendly afterwards as beaten riders usually are. How did someone on the home straight see it? Anyway the ref thought it was ok. Heat 14. A missing dirt deflector and no one noticed it before the start? He leaves the pits in front of expert observers - he lines up where there's not only a start marshall but the ref looking down yet it wasn't spotted. Ridiculous! Rob's move on Bech was tough, I wouldn't have thought Rob meant it to be, youthful exuberance I put it down to but not surprised Bech was a little bit peed off.It's quite possible that everyone from Lakeside missed it until after the race 'on purpose' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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