TheReturn Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I believe the top Post is the relevant one here. I can see nothing in it about people hunting for Nicki on the Track. It might happen, I hope it doesn't, but I don't think Philip has Posted anything wrong here. I don't always agree with him, by the way, but fair is fair.There is another more relevant post somewhere on the thread that tells a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 If so - I stand corrected. I was only trying to clarify things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Well blow me, my understanding of the term fencing was wrong all these years, I was of the opinion it meant take a rider wider and wider leaving them no room and no time to shut off. Or maybe I was right and someone is just back tracking on their earlier comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Well blow me, my understanding of the term fencing was wrong all these years, I was of the opinion it meant take a rider wider and wider leaving them no room and no time to shut off. Well that's me been wrong for 50 years too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Well you are clearly not even trying to understand so there's no point trying to explain anymore is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Surely fencing means to put a rider in the fence? While floored means to dump him on the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Well blow me, my understanding of the term fencing was wrong all these years, I was of the opinion it meant take a rider wider and wider leaving them no room and no time to shut off. Or maybe I was right and someone is just back tracking on their earlier comment. There's almost always time to shut off. The problem with Pedersen is he seems to flick the back wheel at just the right moment to take an opponents front wheel away, now that's dangerous and bang out of order, imagine how it must feel to be on the receiving end of a that. It doesn't justify Hancock's reaction but, for me, it goes a long way to explaining it. As for the statement on his website, it was good to get an insight into how he's thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) I would agree with all of those except Leigh Adams.Would also havep to add gollob Wilkinson sigalos Lee duggan Huxley and farndon.Nicki may not be as naturally gifted as some of those but he is a three times world champ. In some ways reminds me of Hans who I believe Erik once referred to as racing "like a stock car driver" Edited June 19, 2015 by waihekeaces1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I think this thread should be renamed Ha Ha Hancock's Half Hour It would be a situation comedy starring Greg Hancock with Nikki Pedersen as Sid James guest starring Darcey Ward as Bill Kerr It could be set in a cosy speedway stadium in East Cheam The team could be called the East Cheam Fencers That should do it 'A pint of blood, that's nearly half an arm full' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 There's almost always time to shut off. The problem with Pedersen is he seems to flick the back wheel at just the right moment to take an opponents front wheel away, now that's dangerous and bang out of order, imagine how it must feel to be on the receiving end of a that. It doesn't justify Hancock's reaction but, for me, it goes a long way to explaining it. As for the statement on his website, it was good to get an insight into how he's thinking. Actually, if you watch Nicki you'll notice he certainly does NOT flick the back wheel at others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Where have I said it is deliberated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted June 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Yes, if 'fencing' no longer means 'fencing' for the wordsmiths among us. What does 'backtracking' get defined as nowadays? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Actually, if you watch Nicki you'll notice he certainly does NOT flick the back wheel at others. Well I'm not going to spend all night digging out clips but this one immediately springs to mind, twice on the first lap. Don't get me wrong, I like watching him in pantomime villain sort of way but speedway is dangerous enough and the reality is his total lack of consideration for his opponents safety is blatantly obvious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUfhUYtfDZU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Well I'm not going to spend all night digging out clips but this one immediately springs to mind, twice on the first lap. Don't get me wrong, I like watching him in pantomime villain sort of way but speedway is dangerous enough and the reality is his total lack of consideration for his opponents safety is blatantly obvious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUfhUYtfDZU You are joking? That's not a good example to prove Nicki is worse than others. Nicki did nothing worse than what Zagar did to him on that second bend, if anything Zagar is flipping is wheel at Nicki more from the end of the first straight throughout the race! Edited June 19, 2015 by TheReturn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 You provided a definition (lol!) PR suggested the riders were talking about doing it! What's your point?My point is you have ignored what I wrote and claimed I said fencing someone was intentional. So if my definition of fenced is so wrong, what is yours? Well I'm not going to spend all night digging out clips but this one immediately springs to mind, twice on the first lap. Don't get me wrong, I like watching him in pantomime villain sort of way but speedway is dangerous enough and the reality is his total lack of consideration for his opponents safety is blatantly obvious. Where does Nicki flick his back wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 You are joking? That's not a good example to prove Nicki is worse than others. Nicki did nothing worse than what Zagar did to him on that second bend, if anything Zagar is flipping is wheel at Nicki more from the end of the first straight throughout the race! my thoughts too!! Wonder if hes posted the wrong link?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 http://www.eurofencing.info/nations/details/denmark?page=2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Edited June 19, 2015 by nw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Yes, if 'fencing' no longer means 'fencing' for the wordsmiths among us. What does 'backtracking' get defined as nowadays? A Magazine!!! :approve: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Lol again! Do you think riders were openly talking of doing what you said fencing means? No I don't. For a start we've only got 1 mans word that's what is being said - not saying he lied but a case of chinese whispers. So come on, Phil says riders are suggesting others will fence Nicki, what does fence mean in your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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