Black Angus Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Richard Hall got a ban for putting the boot into Josh Auty last season. I think Greg has got away lightly. Sam Masters was only fined (less than Greg Hancock) the other week for knocking Lasse Bjerre off after a race, then running quite a distance at him, and beating on him while he was still lying on the track. Hall and Hancock at least took their retribution out on a rider who had knocked them off! Anyway, I'm all for these scraps, fairly gets the blood racing. But as in ice hockey, let the two guys deck it out in public but throw the book at at the "third man" -- anyone trying to join in gets the big ban! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) People comparing Greg's reaction to Nikki Pedersen's move have never ridden speedway or any form of motor cycle. Facts are Nikki's move could have caused serious injury or worse, Greg's reaction was more likely to cause injury to Greg himself! remember Nikki still had his helmet on. It is true Nikki is Mr Nice Guy off track but transforms in to Mr Dirty Bast##d on track, should have been banned from many a meeting! Rubbish. You sit on a chair, get someone to move it forward a little and ask someone to run at and leap with their arm around your neck. You then come back on here and tell me Greg's move could have only hurt himself. Edited June 17, 2015 by TheReturn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 All these gullible fools (riders) that fawn over Hancock Hancock has them right where he wants them. They don't push him on track, must give the nice old guy all the room in the world. Net result? Greg wins World Title/s. Rickardsson, Crump etc wouldn't give him so much respect. It was interesting that in the World Cup some of the younger kids didn't pay him so much heed.. and breezed past him. Was very noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Refer to my last post. You're so determined to be contrary that you completely ignore the obvious and spew a load of nonsense instead. As my post clearly states (but I'll have to make it crystal for you), I'd rather see Nicki break his own neck than watch him kill an innocent rider. How you can stand up for a filthy rider who puts the lives of other riders second to winning is an absolute disgrace. You're pathetic. Greg was lucky enough to be able to get to his feet this time. That certainly wasn't a controlled manoeuvre that Nicki could foresee the outcome of, it was pure luck that could have ended with Greg either in a wheelchair or no longer with us tonight. I think the fact that a rider as noble as Greg Hancock was pushed to react so strongly to the increasingly irresponsible, unsportsmanlike and life threatening actions of Nicki Pedersen says it all. You really are a moron. This rubbish coming from someone who has constantly defended a rider who turned up drunk for a meeting. Crawl back under your rock. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I would of loved Pedersen to have tried his antics on say a Steve Gresham, Jack Millen, Tony Clarke, Phil Crump,Arthur Browning, and others.Pedersen i lost respect for him years ago i admire him as a rider but that's why he will never go down as a all time great.He oversteps the mark and that move tonight on Hancock was a disgrace i don't blame Hancock for his reaction. Why ...do you really think that Nick is worried by any rider ...no matter what era Nick would be the same person and do the same things . Nick has never been scared of any rider or worried by who he upsets. love or hate nick but there can be no doubt he is one of the most thick skinned person your likely to meet . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blazeaway Posted June 17, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think part of Greg's reaction was born out of the realisation that age seems to be finally catching up with him. He's had more passes made on him than Starman on Mastermind recently. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think part of Greg's reaction was born out of the realisation that age seems to be finally catching up with him. He's had more passes made on him than Starman on Mastermind recently. You've hit the nail on the head. Again Greg has flown out of the start, again he's slow, making mistakes and is reeled in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I would of loved Pedersen to have tried his antics on say a Steve Gresham, Jack Millen, Tony Clarke, Phil Crump,Arthur Browning, and others.Pedersen i lost respect for him years ago i admire him as a rider but that's why he will never go down as a all time great.He oversteps the mark and that move tonight on Hancock was a disgrace i don't blame Hancock for his reaction. So are you saying that really, all this stick Nicki gets is harsh as in the past there were harder/dirtier riders so really Nicki is an angel? I don't get it. If all them riders are so much harder than Nicki, aren't they the real bad guys?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Watched it a few timesGreg did drift out a little and gave Niki a opening,thought Greg would have seen it coming slightly earlier and took evasive action ,Lindgren was much harder on the young Pole on Sat in SWC,but the Pole cut back sharply and passed Lindgren into next bend,think age is catching up on Greg and the reflexes are slowing down a little.Should not have launched himself at Niki while he was still under power though,that could have been nasty,a bit of handbags in the pits would have been enough.Should be banned IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) Let's debate two things. 1. The crash. Nicki took the rider wide, too wide and was rightly excluded. We have seen that many times in speedway from many riders. Nicki was out of order. 2. What Hancock did after. Having just seen that I have no sympathy, that was a disgusting thing Hancock did, from that camera angle it looks like he charged and leaped at Nicki's neck, could have bloody snapped it. That deserves a long ban for that. Was there a second incident that I have not been able to find ?. The only one I have seen Nicki Pedersen goes right out to mid track turns hard towards the kerb and as he passes Hancock he's going as straight as an Arrow . have you got any links to where I can see him taking the rider wide please ? Edited June 17, 2015 by speedibee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) NP has had this coming a long time. I would imagine this was still in Greg's memory.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB4GjqZk6DM Nicki is a great rider and from what I'm told a decent bloke off the track but the fact of the matter is he causes crashes time after time. Even if you are a fan of his you have to realize that every other rider dislikes him for a reason. I remember in the Cardiff program years ago David Norris admitting that even though NP was his team mate there were times he couldn't defend some of the stuff he did. Also, I used to sponsor an ex team mate of Nicki's and he simply described him as a lunatic who'd rather fence him then get a 5-1. For those of you who don't know me you may think that is made up bull****, but I swear it's true. As for Greg's reaction, don't know what everyone is up in arms about. He just got knocked off his bike at 70mph, by a guy who's don't it multiple times before & he saw red mist. Not the first or last person who's done that. The only real surprise was that it was Greg that finally stepped up and did what loads of others had wanted to do for years. Roll on Cardiff... Edited June 17, 2015 by RPNYC 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonimac Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I don't think I've read may observations on this thread that aren't clouded by personal opinions of the riders involved. I recognised that in myself as I watched it last night, and fell about laughing. I think they call it Karma. It looked to me (i.e. none of this "FACT" spouting nonsense, just an opinion ) from the 3 views I've seen that Niki did fence him. Or at the very least give him no room as he tried to pass between Niki and the fence. I also agree that Sundstrom's antics last week were worse but perhaps because he is a bit less practiced at it than Niki. As for Pedersen being potentially injured by Greg, I'm not sure how a 45 year old man jumping over your handlebars competes with being ditched into a fence at the end of the corner where the air fence runs out. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I don't think I've read may observations on this thread that aren't clouded by personal opinions of the riders involved. I recognised that in myself as I watched it last night, and fell about laughing. I think they call it Karma. It looked to me (i.e. none of this "FACT" spouting nonsense, just an opinion ) from the 3 views I've seen that Niki did fence him. Or at the very least give him no room as he tried to pass between Niki and the fence. I also agree that Sundstrom's antics last week were worse but perhaps because he is a bit less practiced at it than Niki. As for Pedersen being potentially injured by Greg, I'm not sure how a 45 year old man jumping over your handlebars competes with being ditched into a fence at the end of the corner where the air fence runs out. Though course Greg wasn't "ditched" into the fence but don't let the facts get in the way of a good old nonsensical rant eh... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Violence does not solve anything you are right "Arson, the problem is that Pedersen has been aloud to get away with it for years.And at times he has been shown up, as some riders have stuck up to him Costa at Chelsea is the same.As for my chin it has held up quite well over the years, i hope yours is not like Amir Khans?!!, Arson.The annoying thing is Pedersen is such a terrific rider he does not need to do it his ability would be anough anyway. After watching the incident i was thinking how last week a young Lambert made a similar sort of move on Greg.But how he put himself in the right position and made his manoeuvre FAIRLY shows you what ability Lambert has. and for a notorious mardy arse , how he managed to keep his temper under control when Morris rammed into him deliberately . there's a few riders who take the knocks and get on with it . harris must be a saint of some sort because in 2010 he got Knocked off 3 times by Holder trying to pass him on the centre green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonimac Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Oh right, so are yo Though course Greg wasn't "ditched" into the fence but don't let the facts get in the way of a good old nonsensical rant eh... It's not facts, it;s just your opinion. Thanks for the assessment of my post btw. And look up Rant in the dictionary too Have a look at twitter to see what the professionals are saying about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Oh right, so are yo It's not facts, it;s just your opinion. Thanks for the assessment of my post btw. And look up Rant in the dictionary too Have a look at twitter to see what the professionals are saying about it. It is fact. Greg was not fenced. That is there for the whole world to see. Nobody touched the fence. Fact. Who cares what Gregs busom buddies say on Twitter.. they're the fools who have let him win 2 World Titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Well this spices thing up for Cardiff beautifully I've seen some low posts on this forum, I'm certainly no angel. But the comments of Ayra and using Lee's death to make the point is a disgrace! Shame on you, you vile little cretin! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Who cares what Gregs busom buddies say on Twitter.. they're the fools who have let him win 2 World Titles. Let him win 2 world titles? Lol that is classic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 It is fact. Greg was not fenced. That is there for the whole world to see. Nobody touched the fence. Fact. Who cares what Gregs busom buddies say on Twitter.. they're the fools who have let him win 2 World Titles. Think you'll find it's 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonimac Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 It is fact. Greg was not fenced. That is there for the whole world to see. Nobody touched the fence. Fact. Who cares what Gregs busom buddies say on Twitter.. they're the fools who have let him win 2 World Titles. It is fact. Greg was not fenced. That is there for the whole world to see. Nobody touched the fence. Fact. Who cares what Gregs busom buddies say on Twitter.. they're the fools who have let him win 2 World Titles. It is not a fact, it is your opinion. Can you point towards any rider supporting Niki in the media this morning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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