cyclone Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 life is about doing favours for each other.... glasgow wanted david howe.... rob said "ok no problem, if you want him this is what i want in return, please dont use a quest on friday"... rob felt let down by a promotion maybe new to speedway? dont know who the new owners are, dont care really, i agree nothing illegal has happened, its just the backing down on a verbal agreement(if there was one) thats upset him, if you lot really wanted to field the best team on friday, then you must of been scared of getting beat.... and if deals are broken then other teams may run scared of helping glasgow in the future. According to the Official Programme for last week's thrashing from the good guys from the East , the Promoters are "Alan C Dick, Colin Hamilton & Stewart Dickson" For the record, Dick & Dickson have been part of the Glasgow Promotion for many years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagy1 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 According to the Official Programme for last week's thrashing from the good guys from the East , the Promoters are "Alan C Dick, Colin Hamilton & Stewart Dickson" For the record, Dick & Dickson have been part of the Glasgow Promotion for many years Do the new promotion not need to work with experienced promoters for a year to understand fully how to run a speedway club? I'm pretty sure Alan Dick stayed on board for the ill-fated Red Revolution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekimba Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Welcome to being a good team Tiger fans, it is always the same with a winning side everybody scrutinises your every move and are always ready to have go at you. You are now getting what we have been getting for a few years, just ignore it and don't reply to them it only gives all the opinionated forum members a chance to say something. Seems you will now be scrutinised by "all the best Rob" all the time now and he will get his little digs in when he can, but just ignore him. Stick to banter with us and you will be fine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Exactly, Scunthorpe gave permission! They co-operated and helped Glasgow. And got stabbed in the back in return. All the best Rob Exactly Rob short memories though did Glasgow not help & co-operate with Scunthorpe when you wanted Nick Morris a couple off seasons back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Anyway moving forward scunny don't like us anymore shame cause I still like them. I hope in future we could help scunny out when the misfortune of a rider ending his season due to injury occurs. Im sure we'd be happy to help and that goes for any team out there. I dont grudge any team speedway has many problems and injuries to riders can be difficult at the best of times. A team shouldn't have to run with r/r for weeks or months if someone can ride in their place. From a fans point of view in glad glasgow are a 7 man team again. All the best with rest of season scunny!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Surely a club who releases a rider from their 1-7 cant then dictate when and who he rides for? Thats draconian,and restriction of trade surely?? Howe deemed surplus to requirements by scunny, signed by Glasgow move on... As for it being bad for Scunthorpe speedway, they shouldn't have replaced him in the first place then this wouldnt have arose.... Cant have everything, not least trying to tell the opposition what team to track. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Surely a club who releases a rider from their 1-7 cant then dictate when and who he rides for? Thats draconian,and restriction of trade surely?? Howe deemed surplus to requirements by scunny, signed by Glasgow move on... As for it being bad for Scunthorpe speedway, they shouldn't have replaced him in the first place then this wouldnt have arose.... Cant have everything, not least trying to tell the opposition what team to track. I am not sure the asset system complies with free trade rules. Scunthorpe had no problem with David signing for Glasgow but they were not happy with his first meeting back being against Scunthorpe. They could have easily delayed the deal until after the meeting but instead did Glasgow a favour with the assumption that the favour would be repaid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Surely a club who releases a rider from their 1-7 cant then dictate when and who he rides for? Thats draconian,and restriction of trade surely?? Howe deemed surplus to requirements by scunny, signed by Glasgow move on... As for it being bad for Scunthorpe speedway, they shouldn't have replaced him in the first place then this wouldnt have arose.... Cant have everything, not least trying to tell the opposition what team to track. Exactly. Gentlemans agreement or no gentlemans agreement, it's morally wrong. It cheats the public, prevents riders from earning and also cheats the other teams in the league. What if Glasgow hadn't used a guest, Scunthorpe won and then got 6th place in the league by a point. How would the team finishing 7th have felt missing out on a play off place? Maybe we'll hear more at today's meeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 if you read robs statement or davids comments in the speedway star david wasnt expected to ride again this season,so rob built a new team, he want dropped or surplus to requirements,or released, we cant wait for him to decide if he ready or not. even when glasgow first rang him he said he wasnt sure if his shoulder was upto it, if he had said yes the first time i dont think tis would all kick off, its just ironic timing, also the only reason you were entitled to use a guest was because of stuart robson doing the same for coventry, david may of signed for glasgow but who is he an asset of? wolves or scunny?,,,, anyways rob helped your wishes and got nothing, if we beat newcastle it would make the next round that more spicy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 I am not sure the asset system complies with free trade rules. Scunthorpe had no problem with David signing for Glasgow but they were not happy with his first meeting back being against Scunthorpe. They could have easily delayed the deal until after the meeting but instead did Glasgow a favour with the assumption that the favour would be repaid. How could Scunthorpe have delayed the deal with Glasgow? Having released him from his contract and out of their 1-7 he is a free agent regardless of who holds his registration and free to do as he wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 How could Scunthorpe have delayed the deal with Glasgow? Having released him from his contract and out of their 1-7 he is a free agent regardless of who holds his registration and free to do as he wishes. This is speedway. And the way that the loan rules have operated for a very long time is that once you obtain a rider on loan for the season, he effectively becomes your asset for that season, and any subsequent further loan, must have the approval of that club. Scunthorpe, out of good will, gave Glasgow permission, assuming that the Tigers would return that good will. All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) This is speedway. And the way that the loan rules have operated for a very long time is that once you obtain a rider on loan for the season, he effectively becomes your asset for that season, and any subsequent further loan, must have the approval of that club. Scunthorpe, out of good will, gave Glasgow permission, assuming that the Tigers would return that good will. All the best Rob And tellIing us what our team should be taking the good-will part a bit far there Rob. Stewart kindly offered to pick your team for next week can't say fairer than that. Edited June 21, 2015 by Gazc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 life is about doing favours for each other.... glasgow wanted david howe.... rob said "ok no problem, if you want him this is what i want in return, please dont use a quest on friday"... rob felt let down by a promotion maybe new to speedway? dont know who the new owners are, dont care really, i agree nothing illegal has happened, its just the backing down on a verbal agreement(if there was one) thats upset him, if you lot really wanted to field the best team on friday, then you must of been scared of getting beat.... and if deals are broken then other teams may run scared of helping glasgow in the future. Check your keyboard, you seem to have a problem with your "g" and "q" keys. I don't know whether you're on a guest or a quest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 i know, for some reason i keep doing that, then try and correct it, must of slipped through 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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