george.m Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Should have spent some of the £1.5 million on new solinods for the starting gates, over 3 hours for a meeting!!! All the best to Kozza get well soon Thought this was a Glasgow/Scunthorpe thread! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Thought this was a Glasgow/Scunthorpe thread! Didn't take long for payback George isn't Karma a wonderful thing . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Thought this was a Glasgow/Scunthorpe thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchlad Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Well with it being brand new starting gates purchased then it is a fair assumption that the solinods would be brand new to go with the brand new starting gates . Don't you just love that green eyed monster. We have already lost the tapes. No green eyed here.....our gates work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawajoe Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 No green eyed here.....our gates work You don't half talk pish Moanerslad, The £8000 starting tapes came complete BUT we'll still be running when you lot are in the gutter ;o) . Best wishes to Kozza Smith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 No green eyed here.....our gates work You're like Songs of Praise. Come on every Sunday Talk b@llocks Everyone ignores you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 . Its not Bryan's fault that the microphone is not working. He is handed a microphone and expects it to work. he cannot hear that it isnt working as he's wearing an earpiece. Maybe he shouldnt bother driving down from Dundee at his own expense to help entertain you!!!! You are right, if it doesn't work don't use it. Nothing personal against Bryan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheggie Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Get well soon Kozza! Any news on how long he will be out for?! Short or long term replacement? Could have around 7.5 pts to play with for an injury replacement? R/R? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Stewart Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Get well soon Kozza! Any news on how long he will be out for?! Short or long term replacement? Could have around 7.5 pts to play with for an injury replacement? R/R? There is a rule which states that if you re-declare your team, but have an assessed average rider who hasn't achieved an average by 1st May, then that rider may be given an average on what he has done so far. That would certainly seem to apply to James Sarjeant who has done 4 home and 3 away I think, but is averageing about 7. If that is applied then you would have Kozza's 6.6 for a replacement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted June 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) There is a rule which states that if you re-declare your team, but have an assessed average rider who hasn't achieved an average by 1st May, then that rider may be given an average on what he has done so far. That would certainly seem to apply to James Sarjeant who has done 4 home and 3 away I think, but is averageing about 7. If that is applied then you would have Kozza's 6.6 for a replacement. No I think Glasgow have the 7.50ish, because the rule you've stated is not applied in the manner that you have described. At least it wasn't when Scunthorpe and Sheffield tried to make team changes in 2013, and those team changes were rejected, because the rider retained their old average until they had done 4 home and 4 away, despite what this rule says. All the best Rob Edited June 8, 2015 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Having been kept waiting for 60 mins already any referee with an ounce of interest in the sport would have pushed the 2 minutes on straight after each heat other than those with riders having 2 in a row, not the dishcloth. To add insult he never once put the 2 minutes on straight after a false start and allowed the riders to come and go as they wanted from the pits when they should have been disqualified for leaving the track. Ht14 he awarded second to Palovaara who was last when Lunna was wiped out by Ben Wilson. Totally incompetent. MD are you willie Dishington's dad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Stewart Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) No I think Glasgow have the 7.50ish, because the rule you've stated is not applied in the manner that you have described. At least it wasn't when Scunthorpe and Sheffield tried to make team changes in 2013, and those team changes were rejected, because the rider retained their old average until they had done 4 home and 4 away, despite what this rule says. All the best Rob Yes but it is understandably applied differently depending on whether a rider's average is going to increase or decrease from the assessed level. The point of the rule was to prevent riders retaining an unrealistically low average for too long. I presume in the cases you are talking about, the averages were 5 or 7 and were dropping. The point being that teams are not meant to benefit from riders' averages changing at different times. However when promoters try to remember why a rule was written, who knows what might happen. All the very best to Kozza after his injuries. Edited June 8, 2015 by Al Stewart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 MD are you willie Dishington's dad? He'd be grounded if i was! Seriously though he needs supervising, its not like there were any contentious decisions to make, he didn't even get the basics right. Hope he's not been allocated to Glasgow again this Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 There is a rule which states that if you re-declare your team, but have an assessed average rider who hasn't achieved an average by 1st May, then that rider may be given an average on what he has done so far. That would certainly seem to apply to James Sarjeant who has done 4 home and 3 away I think, but is averageing about 7. If that is applied then you would have Kozza's 6.6 for a replacement. All fair & well but Kozza didn't come in on an assessed average he came in on his 2013 average of 7.15 now that he is on 6.60 we would have around 7.50 as we are 1 point under the 42.50 limit need to act quickly as James & Victor will get there new averages soon which for both will be more than there current 3 average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 All fair & well but Kozza didn't come in on an assessed average he came in on his 2013 average of 7.15 now that he is on 6.60 we would have around 7.50 as we are 1 point under the 42.50 limit need to act quickly as James & Victor will get there new averages soon which for both will be more than there current 3 averageDont think is talking about Kozza though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Dont think is talking about Kozza though? yeah I know his point was about assessed averaged riders point being made was if we were to replace Kozza now we would have 7.50 and not the 6.60 he stated but if we were to do this it would need to be soon or it would be only the 6.60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 yeah I know his point was about assessed averaged riders point being made was if we were to replace Kozza now we would have 7.50 and not the 6.60 he stated but if we were to do this it would need to be soon or it would be only the 6.60Is he not Saying that as JS had not achieved an average by May1st he will be given his real average if the Team is re-declared,thus reducing what you have to play with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Is he not Saying that as JS had not given his real average if the Team is re-declared,thus reducing what you have to play with. I would have thought being one point under and Kozza averaging 6.60 we would be able to make an injury replacement to 7.50 or thereabouts but he may well be correct as when James & Victor get there new averages we will be over the 42.50 limit so looking at it that way it may well be the case that we can only be up to 6.60 to replace Kozza Will need to wait and see what we do may well go with R/R for Kozza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeyin Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Surely Victor has an average , he was an assessed 7 last year and finished under a 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Surely Victor has an average , he was an assessed 7 last year and finished under a 3 Victor had a true average of 3 at the start off the season James was assessed 3 both have now completed 4h & 4a so will rreceive there new averages this week with both sure to Iincrease hence we will be over the 42.5 limit when that happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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