Shadders Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I don't think any father and son have been so closely matched. Len & Andrew Silver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Len & Andrew Silver Andrew was the better rider but Len prepared the better track. ..speaking of Rye House, Barry or Dave King? I would say Barry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 George and Terry Barclay rode together for Sunderland 'Stars'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Andrew was the better rider but Len prepared the better track. Len was a pretty decent rider in the old Provincial League. I think he won the PLRC in the early 60's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Len was a pretty decent rider in the old Provincial League. I think he won the PLRC in the early 60's He did indeed. 1962. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Len was a pretty decent rider in the old Provincial League. I think he won the PLRC in the early 60's I never saw him ride but I thoroughly enjoyed his book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I never saw him ride but I thoroughly enjoyed his book. I did!!! It was a match race at Rye about 6 or 7 years or so ago between Len & Michael Lee. Lee did 4 laps, Len only has to do 3. I think Len won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I did!!! It was a match race at Rye about 6 or 7 years or so ago between Len & Michael Lee. Lee did 4 laps, Len only has to do 3. I think Len won. Damn I don't remember that at all. I must have been out of the country. I certainly wouldn't have missed that. I know he had his problems, but Mike the bike was truly the most talented rider I've ever seen. Topping the national averages at 18. Incredible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMac Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) I often wonder how good Dave could've been if he hadn't broken his leg in '77. There was nothing between him and Chris at that point, although he was a few years older. He was never the same rider after that. It's strange how some riders can return from serious injury and be just as good as before. Ermolenko, Knudsen, Wiltshire, and other riders can't. Must be a psychological thing I guess.. Dave was by far the better gater and, as you say, but for that bad leg break he would probably have gone on to be a consistently high BL points scorer for many seasons - his average was 10+ at the time of his crash. As tracks became slicker in the early 80s, his trapping ability would have boosted his figures had the serious 1977 injury not already taken its toll (think he broke a bone riding for Wolves in '79 too). Having said that, he was never once-paced. When behind, he knew how to find the grip to pass people about three inches from the Hackney fence! A great sight. Edited June 10, 2015 by tmc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Certainly agree with the old 2nd half races. Many a time at Foxhall during the Tiger, Shrimp and Billy era we had to wait until the Champion of the Evening final to get the best race of the night. As for who's the best? Just a shame Tiger started so late, and Chris had that awful crash in Poland, so maybe we were denied an Ipswich World Champion, but for a small Town in Suffolk, we'll take a couple on the rostrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 You obviously never saw Chris win the 2000 British final then with a 15 point maximum in awful conditions... What was awful about the conditions HKP? I was there but don't recall any issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) What was awful about the conditions HKP? I was there but don't recall any issues. Edited June 13, 2015 by Hong Kong Phooey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 I must say that John was way the better rider on all sorts of tracks. I never saw Chris ride any good on a wet one "Ipswich's favourite son Chris Louis proved master of the wet" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 My error, completely mis read your post. I meant the British final in which Louis senior scored a 15 point maximum! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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