Fromafar Posted June 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 It's a TOTAL farce in my view,but it's probably 50/50 in blame game stakes,Havvy certainly didn't give any indication that they had NOTHING to do with track prep.he actually praised Terry (whoever that is) for getting the track into shape.Watching on Tele fans probably did not realise how bad the weather was till they saw Tatum getting blown away when the cameras switch to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Not a surprise that Coventry would come back rubbishing Go-Speed's claims. Which one do you believe? Seen and heard it all before last year with the ELRC debacle, to be brutally honest I don't particularly believe either party and should think the truth is something in between. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 The whole affair makes the sport a farce. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beesboybert Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 The final part of the bees statement weakens their case in my eyes. It makes it look like its all about the result rather than the conditions. Poor show 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 We turned up and rode did the job so we should not see a restaging of this it was not are fault. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I guess you are a Coventry fan then. As somebody who isn't one (and have no dislike of the Bees) I think the statement a reflection from somebody who just does not want to accept what happened because he came out on the wrong side of what was a difficult situation. Poole (no I am not a Poole supporter) on the other hand got on with the task in hand, namely getting past heat ten and by doing so ensured they obtained a victory rather than lose the benefit of the lead they had built up both when the track was capable of being raced on and when conditions became less so. Contrary to Coventry promotions view that "Allowing Poole to retain the four league points gained in such unsatisfactory circumstances" should not be allowed, I would point out that the group of individuals who had the best chance of doing that were in fact the Coventry Bees...but they chose not to race...ah but they were behind anyway so now they need a plan B and I for one hope it does not pay off, they have had their chance and lost! .....including by the number of exclusions incurred by their riders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 The final part of the bees statement weakens their case in my eyes. It makes it look like its all about the result rather than the conditions. Poor show It'll make Mick Horton feel better, that's it. We all know he like a rant... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 The expected reply from the always do things by the book Bees, except when they are happy to push for a heat 10 call off regardless off the weather to get all the away points. It's not for me to point out the obvious that the last part of their statement is typically hypocritical as that's blooming obvious! The last part stinks of sour grapes and sours any real argument they may have had about the original statement. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 The expected reply from the always do things by the book Bees, except when they are happy to push for a heat 10 call off regardless off the weather to get all the away points. It's not for me to point out the obvious that the last part of their statement is typically hypocritical as that's blooming obvious! The last part stinks of sour grapes and sours any real argument they may have had about the original statement. Neither side comes out of this well. What's done is done. Nothing will change it, just another sorry episode 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Neither side comes out of this well. What's done is done. Nothing will change it, just another sorry episode Yea I agree. But the predictable speedway answer to a problem, it's always somebody else's fault. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) I don't think for one second it will be re staged but let's not forget the club were hit very hard financially because it was made to run. I can understand why they want it re run but thats not really fair on Poole. Let's remember the actual argument here, that the staging club wasn't allowed to postpone a meeting or have the track they wanted. Also the meeting coordinator said they will inspect the track after heat 9, they didn't follow it up. This could've happened at any track, it's an issue that needs resolving for the sport in general and I applaud the Bees promotion making a stand. We can't just let GoSpeed make decisions which will hit a club financially just so they can get paid. Edited June 5, 2015 by woz01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 You can't change whats happened but you can prevent it from happening again. Maybe the answer is for Coventry to turn down the invite of Sky meetings in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialOne Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 The meeting cannot be re-stage, that is ludicrous. Why should this instance be so different to any other meeting in the past which has been pushed through for a result? Yes it was on sky but I feel Coventry are now using the fact it was pushed through on sky as more of an excuse than anything else. This has been happening for years and bcuase Coventry lost on sky I dont see why it should be any different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Blimey the more i look into mr Russell the worst it gets!!!,Think i should be more busy at work but just look at the number of companies hes been involved in.Thers one SCB halfway down on the left that makes interesting viewing. Im going to do some work now but ill be back!!!http://companycheck.co.uk/director/903932746 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 You can't change whats happened but you can prevent it from happening again. Maybe the answer is for Coventry to turn down the invite of Sky meetings in the future? But no one wants to take responsibility for it that is the problem so they won't learn, why can't the Russell's just do one I get sick and tired of looking at his bald ponce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) COVENTRY have issued the following statement on Friday June 5: COVENTRY Speedway notes the statement issued by Go Speed International Ltd regarding the Coventry v Poole fixture on Monday June 1. Coventry will be providing the relevant authorities with statements of fact concerning the events of last weekend, and Monday itself, to prove that the statement issued by Go Speed International Ltd is incorrect and damaging to our club’s credibility within the sport. Evidence will be forwarded to the BSPA and the SCB. As a club, we are so incensed by the debacle of Monday evening that we are seeking a full enquiry into the events, and we call on all parties to hold a meeting where all views can be considered when the evidence has been compiled. We trust the SCB and BSPA to consider our requests for the meeting to be re-staged. Allowing Poole to retain the four league points gained in such unsatisfactory circumstances impacts not only Coventry, but all other Elite League colleagues who are still striving for play-off qualification. Was liking the cut of the gib until I got to that bloody insidious word 'colleague' Then I lost all interest in the points they were making. What the hook is wrong with Elite League 'teams'? American corporate claptrap. It's a TOTAL farce in my view,but it's probably 50/50 in blame game stakes,Havvy certainly didn't give any indication that they had NOTHING to do with track prep.he actually praised Terry (whoever that is) for getting the track into shape.Watching on Tele fans probably did not realise how bad the weather was till they saw Tatum getting blown away when the cameras switch to him. Terry Scrabble. Used to do Monmore I believe. Edited June 5, 2015 by Wolfsbane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 The whole affair makes the sport a farce. MAKES? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undercover Elephant Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 This is just pure PR nonsense in reality. Two things. Fans will either still attend meetings up and down the country and around the world, especially TV meetings, OR, save your money and not support the poor organising by administrators at league and GP level. You have a voice and an opinion and on this particular issue, you vote with your purse or wallet! Keep fighting back folks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I don't think for one second it will be re staged but let's not forget the club were hit very hard financially because it was made to run. I can understand why they want it re run but thats not really fair on Poole. Let's remember the actual argument here, that the staging club wasn't allowed to postpone a meeting or have the track they wanted. Also the meeting coordinator said they will inspect the track after heat 9, they didn't follow it up. This could've happened at any track, it's an issue that needs resolving for the sport in general and I applaud the Bees promotion making a stand. We can't just let GoSpeed make decisions which will hit a club financially just so they can get paid. Well the only solution to that, would seem to be for the BSPA to try and re-negotiate the current legally-binding agreement they entered into in 2009. Well the only solution to that, would seem to be for the BSPA to try and re-negotiate the current legally-binding agreement they entered into in 2009. David Cameron got any free time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) I have some sympathy with Horton having missed out on a big payday that undoubtedly was built into this season's business plan. I also think its right to issue a reply to the GSI statement and request an enquiry into that aspect of 'who calls the shots on Sky meetings?' However if they do get a meeting with BSPA/SCB and 'all concerned' and they do produce all the relevant statements of fact, how are they going to explain away both Horton and Havelock stating on TV, Podcast and in print that there was absolutely no fault on the part of Poole!! So any attempt to deduct Poole's points and restage the meeting should rightly be ignored. Maybe if Mick/Havvy ask Matt/Middlo nicely, both clubs can stage a home leg of a Challenge meeting for the 2015 version of the 'Hokey Cokey Cup' , previously competed for by the Bees and Panthers some years ago?! Promote it as a real grudge match - throw in some mud-wrestling for the Brandon leg - watch the crowds flood in @ a tenner per head - everyone's a winner!! Edited June 5, 2015 by Skidder1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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