Grand Central Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 Can't see that it'll make a lot of odds to the track. More likely that the expensive pitch will get damaged. Can't you? I think you will find that 'Ole's method' is well documented as involving massive amounts of 'packing' of the material. Otherwise it breaks up. Applying the material to the concrete floor. May well be a different proposition to some sort false floor over the grass. Don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/millennium-stadium-pitch-unveiled-brilliant-8041634 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 WORK on Cardiff track starts today .... BSI have been allowed into the Millennium much earlier than usual as the stadium isn't being used since the One Direction concert. It is true that the pitch is now permanent and there has been some changes to the actual mix of the material going down but that should be a positive rather than a negative. Don't know the full details yet but there will be plenty of track testing going on between now and July 4. Easier to get moisture in than out! Next week the track in Horsens for the GP there on August 8 will be laid. They have also bought covers, based on those Olsen has at Vojens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 FURROW Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 WORK on Cardiff track starts today .... BSI have been allowed into the Millennium much earlier than usual as the stadium isn't being used since the One Direction concert. It is true that the pitch is now permanent and there has been some changes to the actual mix of the material going down but that should be a positive rather than a negative. Don't know the full details yet but there will be plenty of track testing going on between now and July 4. Easier to get moisture in than out! Next week the track in Horsens for the GP there on August 8 will be laid. They have also bought covers, based on those Olsen has at Vojens. Are you defending all ready lets hope Cardiff is ok as for Horsens it's got disaster written all over it now I say transfer to Vojens now whilst they've the chance especially after the awesome meeting there yesterday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 And here was me thinking the fanzone was out the back of the Prince of Wales pub 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 And here was me thinking the fanzone was out the back of the Prince of Wales pub It is. See you there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 WORK on Cardiff track starts today .... BSI have been allowed into the Millennium much earlier than usual as the stadium isn't being used since the One Direction concert. It is true that the pitch is now permanent and there has been some changes to the actual mix of the material going down but that should be a positive rather than a negative. Don't know the full details yet but there will be plenty of track testing going on between now and July 4. Easier to get moisture in than out! Next week the track in Horsens for the GP there on August 8 will be laid. They have also bought covers, based on those Olsen has at Vojens. Serious question. Now that they have spent millions on a permanent pitch, is it likely to put future GP's at risk? Surely not going to be happy if pitch is put at risk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 One would imagine that the idea of going in much earlier this year is a matter of mutual agreement due to the very different situation now. The extra time allowing the right method to be used for both preserving the pitch AND producing a usable track. After Warsaw, Ole needs to get it right for July 4 and restore confidence for rest of SGP 2015. But one can only speculate on the future if it doesn't work out equally well for the Rugby people.And the state of the pitch when uncovered on July 5/6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 Serious question. Now that they have spent millions on a permanent pitch, is it likely to put future GP's at risk? Surely not going to be happy if pitch is put at risk?No, the stadium is used for plenty of things that take the pitch up. One Direction had a concert their last week for a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 Serious question. Now that they have spent millions on a permanent pitch, is it likely to put future GP's at risk? Surely not going to be happy if pitch is put at risk? NO ... Millennium love the speedway as shown by their agreement for track building to start asap. They have already worked out how to protect the pitch when the speedway track goes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 NO ... Millennium love the speedway as shown by their agreement for track building to start asap. They have already worked out how to protect the pitch when the speedway track goes in. Thanks for this, good to hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 NO ... Millennium love the speedway as shown by their agreement for track building to start asap. Love the speedway? I think more like desperate to keep any sort of event to stem the losses on the stadium, especially since the football has moved away. The list of events at the Millennium looks very sparse this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 Love the speedway? I think more like desperate to keep any sort of event to stem the losses on the stadium, especially since the football has moved away. The list of events at the Millennium looks very sparse this year. RUGBY World Cup ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 RUGBY World Cup ... Sure, but that's a one-off, and there hasn't been a lot else other than rugby and speedway this year. The Welsh government basically has to subsidise the Millennium to keep it afloat. As for protecting the pitch, I fail to see how tonnes of shale dumped on it for several days is going to be good for it, regardless of whether they put down tarpaulins or a bit of plywood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 I believe the type of pitch they have put down is with concerts, speedway and other events in mind as well as holding international rugby. The Ricoh Arena is doing something similar after a gaming exhibition ruined the previous pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 I believe the type of pitch they have put down is with concerts, speedway and other events in mind as well as holding international rugby. The Ricoh Arena is doing something similar after a gaming exhibition ruined the previous pitch. The Millennium now has one of those hybrid pitches with artificial fibres interwoven with real grass, which holds it together better. However, it's one thing for concert goers to be trampling it underfoot, possibly another to have several thousand tonnes of shale compressing it regardless of what's between the pitch and the shale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Sure, but that's a one-off, and there hasn't been a lot else other than rugby and speedway this year. The Welsh government basically has to subsidise the Millennium to keep it afloat. As for protecting the pitch, I fail to see how tonnes of shale dumped on it for several days is going to be good for it, regardless of whether they put down tarpaulins or a bit of plywood. WELL I'm sure the Millennium people will have thought about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 WELL I'm sure the Millennium people will have thought about it! 2015 is not one of those years where blind confidence in others 'having thought' about stuff has worked too well. Your glass is certainly half full. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 RUGBY World Cup ... Lets get this right Phil.Firstly im very pleased to hear common sense has privailed and they've been allowed in a lot earlier this year, that will give the track plenty of time to bed in as that is what its going to need. But im a little concerned, laying a track on top of grass, artificial or otherwise ? Not sure thats going to work. Now is this purely down to the Rugby World cup and the fact that they will posibly get more money out of that ? Please elaborate .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 WELL I'm sure the Millennium people will have thought about it! I'm sure there'll be a scientifically designed and patented 'pitch protection system' rolled out - also known as few bits of plywood covered with a tarpaulin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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