Super Blue Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Mondays farce at Coventry has prompted me to start this thread. Are the current crop of referees really up to the job at the moment is my main question? On Monday she quite clearly had no say or input into whether the meeting continued or stopped when she should have had full control over proceedings! Personally I have seen at least 3 meetings live this season where the overall quality of refereeing and decisions has been absolutely diabolical! We can all quote the odd error in judgement in a specific race or meeting but to me it seems like it's becoming more and more prevalent. Are the refs in control overall and making the right decisions or not? Edited June 3, 2015 by Super Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Mondays farce at Coventry has prompted me to start this thread. Are the current crop of referees really up to the job at the moment is my main question? On Monday she quite clearly had no say or input into whether the meeting continued or stopped when she should have had full control over proceedings! Personally I have seen at least 3 meetings live this season where the overall quality of refereeing and decisions has been absolutely diabolical! We can all quote the odd error in judgement in a specific race or meeting but to me it seems like it's becoming more and more prevalent. Are the refs in control overall or not? As is always the case on a Sky night 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Referees like in any other sport need to be given complete control, if they can see the racing is not what it should be due to weather and dodgy track then they should call it off without fear. Referee should be considering rider safety and the image of the sport at same time, decisions need taking out of riders, managers and promoters hands ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Mondays farce at Coventry has prompted me to start this thread. Are the current crop of referees really up to the job at the moment is my main question? Just wait til the cavalcade of Kent fans come onto this thread to bemoan their Heat 1 "5-lapper" on Monday...all in all, Monday was not a good day in the world of the SCB and their referees, was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Referees like in any other sport need to be given complete control, if they can see the racing is not what it should be due to weather and dodgy track then they should call it off without fear. Referee should be considering rider safety and the image of the sport at same time, decisions need taking out of riders, managers and promoters hands ! Agree,their judgement should not be subject to "you have never ridden a bike "which seem to be the case nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Mondays farce at Coventry has prompted me to start this thread. Are the current crop of referees really up to the job at the moment is my main question? On Monday she quite clearly had no say or input into whether the meeting continued or stopped when she should have had full control over proceedings! Personally I have seen at least 3 meetings live this season where the overall quality of refereeing and decisions has been absolutely diabolical! We can all quote the odd error in judgement in a specific race or meeting but to me it seems like it's becoming more and more prevalent. Are the refs in control overall and making the right decisions or not? Very unfair to denigrate Ms Turnbull for Monday, I didn't think she got any decision that she COULD make under the rules wrong. Monday was completely the fault of the meeting steward Paul Clarke who is the only official that can halt a Sky match and order a track inspection. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Worst ive seen this season Dale Entwhistle at Kent v Birmingham last monday Broke the rules and made up his own as he went along, appalling should be struck off ,or go back for more lessons and a test on the rule book....Where do they find these people?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Worst ive seen this season Dale Entwhistle at Kent v Birmingham last monday Broke the rules and made up his own as he went along, appalling should be struck off ,or go back for more lessons and a test on the rule book....Where do they find these people??they should be monitored like they are in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 On Monday she quite clearly had no say or input into whether the meeting continued or stopped when she should have had full control over proceedings! Correct, but that wasn't her fault, that's the rules. For Sky meetings the meeting steward is in control. He is the one who should be held to task and to be honest is the one that caused the problems. He promised Havelock a track inspection after Heat 9 and then reneged on his word, that's what sent Havelock over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 they should be monitored like they are in football. If they were Babs would certainly be out of a job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Do the speedway refs have to go through the same sort of training that a football ref doe's. from what I have seen and the issues that they seem to have no control on, makes me wonder if some of them went to their first speedway meeting a couple of weeks ago, like what they saw and decided to become a ref, got the job, spent a meeting in the box with another ref for a meeting then they where left to their own devices. Some of then have not got the slightest grasp of the rules in the sport. Are they tested on the rule book and what qualifications do they need to get to be a ref. The SCB needs to tighten up on the quality of the refs they have, because some of them are just to idiotic to belive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 On Monday she quite clearly had no say or input into whether the meeting continued or stopped when she should have had full control over proceedings! Are the refs in control overall and making the right decisions or not? Presumably the Clerk-of-the-Course has substantial input into whether conditions are fit to continue. They're responsible for the state of the circuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Where has Frank Ebdon gone,anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybikespeedway Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I cancelled my Sky Subs a few years ago when poole were at Belle Vue and to all intents and purposes Neil Middleditch refereed from the PitsCalling all the shots in Pooles favour, that was the last Straw for me and the Elite league on sky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyd Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Where has Frank Ebdon gone,anyone know? Dont know but I think he (and his no nonsense refereeing) is sadly missed, always the man in charge at the meeting and took cr*p from no one no matter how big a star the rider or team manager was. Seen him get through many a meeting in record time with the 2 minute warning for the next race coming on as the last riders left the track. Come back Frank British speedway needs you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secsy1 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Tonight's Speedway World Cup is again after only a few Heats in controversy by poor Refereeing. Lindback not excluded, then the Russian who was clearly impeded excluded. Think I will have to stop watching again as its as bad as a FIFA debacle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 If they were Babs would certainly be out of a job! everyime its one of the women , controversy .. the worst of all the women, and from personal experience Vardy by a long shot , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June01 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Where has Frank Ebdon gone,anyone know? Must be retired now, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Remember Lew Stripp back in the late 70's early 80's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim3751 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Remember Lew Stripp back in the late 70's early 80's Strong personality. Speedway through and through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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