Swc Race-off

[orion]

I've given up asking why we can't have test matches anymore.

Well quite clearly it's money ..when you have a test match you going to have paid quite a lot of heat leaders top riders etc ...the fans stopped coming to watch test matches hence there were big losses ...unless your going to find someone who willing to just give away money then they are unlikey to return to the uk .

Edited June 11, 2015 by orion

[mdmc82]

What would you like the BSPA to do to improve Team GB?

Listen to the riders to start with. Stop banning them from riding in international meetings such as pairs and SEC so that they can get more international experience. Support development and training schools

Edited June 11, 2015 by mdmc82

[Arson fire]

So what's the purpose of that? All other team-based sports have substitution and in none of them injuries happen as often. Its to make joker rule(another ridiculous rule) having the right to exist?

i agree with you, but suggesting its to delib hinder Poland is highly unlikely imo

[HenryW]

I've given up asking why we can't have test matches anymore. We moan that riders like King don't have any international experience, but fail to arrange any internationals to assist them!

 

This when we have all the top Aussies, and most of the Danes, based in the UK.

Not sure about the relevance of that last line.

 

There would be very little point in organising test matches in the UK. It is on foreign shale that the riders need to get more experience.

 

It would also be good to get international experience early. Under 18 and Under 21 test matches abroad would be particularly useful...and maybe actually getting some coaching for young lads. The number of young Brits that have bizarre racing styles that are only hampering them is unbelievable.

[CB252]

Not sure about the relevance of that last line.There would be very little point in organising test matches in the UK. It is on foreign shale that the riders need to get more experience.It would also be good to get international experience early. Under 18 and Under 21 test matches abroad would be particularly useful...and maybe actually getting some coaching for young lads. The number of young Brits that have bizarre racing styles that are only hampering them is unbelievable.

I still think that riding a test match in the UK on one of our faster tracks against strong opposition with no easy rides would help the likes of King immeasurably.

That, and the added benefit of riding together as a nation before the World Cup. Team GB speedway needs to be about more than just two matches a year in the SWC.

[YerRopes]

I thought that was a good effort by Team GB (England), never expected it to be so close...

 

Well done to Tai, you couldn't ask for more and young Lambert did well too..

 

I don't blame Bomber on a Vojens track and Danny did well apart form his penultimate race..

 

We were always up against it once the Poles lost Jarek and failed to qualify at home

[Ben91]

Think Nicholls instead of Bomber or King could have made a difference tonight. Granted he's not the rider he was but he's still out second best rider in my opinion, not right that he's sat on a sofa presenting the meeting.

[Trees]

Not sure about the relevance of that last line.There would be very little point in organising test matches in the UK. It is on foreign shale that the riders need to get more experience.It would also be good to get international experience early. Under 18 and Under 21 test matches abroad would be particularly useful...and maybe actually getting some coaching for young lads. The number of young Brits that have bizarre racing styles that are only hampering them is unbelievable.

Totally agree re our boys, can they not be actually taught the best way to position themselves on a bike? Are they taught, do they work it out themselves or does it come naturally?

[TheReturn]

Think Nicholls instead of Bomber or King could have made a difference tonight. Granted he's not the rider he was but he's still out second best rider in my opinion, not right that he's sat on a sofa presenting the meeting.

His choice.

[topsoil]

Just a couple of thoughts following the meeting tonight:-

 

I wonder if all those who said on this forum that Tai should never ride for Britain again after the Pairs still feel this way?

 

Hopefully the authorities will take heed from the performances over the two meetings and realise that entry into the airs and a couple of Test matches each season will benefit British riders to be exposed to this level of competition.

 

I still hate the joker rule. Even though Britain gained from it tonight, I would still get rid of it. I've seen it affect the outcome of too many meetings.

 

We have a genuine world class talent in Tai. Please BSPA look after him, he is our biggest asset and used and promoted correctly he could really raise the profile of the sport in this country, even if it is just at GP level.

 

Two decent performances by Britain. I'm not getting carried away about tonight, Britain got close to Poland due to a joker and the absence of Hampel. But it's certainly something to build on. Lets not waste the chance.

[eM_Pe]

Britain got close to Poland due to a joker and the absence of Hampel.

 

I'd say it's mostly due to the lack of any decent opposition. There was essentially nobody that the GB's weaker links could loose points to. Some form of comparison could be the duels against Hancock, where we get Greg vs Poland 1:5 and Greg vs GB 4:2.

 

Still, Tai was just out of this world and he's on the best possible course for his second World Championship. And Lambert was excellent. Even more so since he had a 7 heats gap in the middle of the meeting and came back in huge style winning heat 14.

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

I believe that Scotty would consider coming back next year at GB level IF what Woofy is trying to achieve works

people on here are completely right imo for once, we NEED test matches, both home and away for experience

i think that if Hampel didnt crash that Poland would of went straight to the final and we would of subsequently been there by beating Sweden

[foreverblue]

His choice.

Yes his choice to let down his country.

[skydog]

Didn't Scott refuse to ride for GB because of the issues over having to wear GB's sponsors when riding for GB?

[Guest WTF1]

Poland winning was the expected result but GB with the team that was chosen ( we all probably have our own idea's for the best team ) gave it their best shot , Woffinden was awesome, Lambert a star in the future, Harris seemed underpowered and was riding like he did in last year's Gp's, King has peaked and reached his level, it was a pity it was Lambert's race when Tai had to be substitute/joker and not King's, might just have been closer although ultimately Poland had too much firepower in the end, should be a good final.

[jim3751]

When Bomber switched to his GM it looked slower and his gating on the GTS has certainly been better. Robert's worked well enough.

 

Sorry but i don't go for slagging off our riders because we lost out. What I did see was Polish riders showing more determination and taking more risks after the disqualification

[mikebv]

Yes his choice to let down his country.

Didn't he decide not to ride because he wasn't allowed to take part in the SEC as the BSPA don't recognise the event because they feel that this competition can adversely affect their League?

 

The same competition that 'Non British' EL and PL riders have rode, and still ride in, without it would appear any massive disruption to the Leagues!!?

 

Maybe the BSPA just want as many riders 'on hand' every week to ensure that their 'guest quota' per meeting is successfully maintained...

 

Can't blame Scott personally, why put yourself out to represent an organisation who you simply have zero respect for?

Edited June 12, 2015 by mikebv

[dump that clutch]

in hindsight, I'd have loved to have seen Howarth in place of King as personally I don't rate him for some reason.

[foreverblue]

Didn't he decide not to ride because he wasn't allowed to take part in the SEC as the BSPA don't recognise the event because they feel that this competition can adversely affect their League?

 

The same competition that 'Non British' EL and PL riders have rode, and still ride in, without it would appear any massive disruption to the Leagues!!?

 

Maybe the BSPA just want as many riders 'on hand' every week to ensure that their 'guest quota' per meeting is successfully maintained...

 

Can't blame Scott personally, why put yourself out to represent an organisation who you simply have zero respect for?

Your representing your country not an organisation and you should always want to do that, would Rooney turn down england because he didnt like the way football was run in this country.

[PHILIPRISING]

HARRIS had two GTRs available ... the one he used in Prague and Coventry (versus Poole) and the one that worked so well for him at Kings Lynn. He also had a new GM brought along by his tuner, Brian Andersen.

 

Despite the protestations of Kelvin Tatum for whatever reason Chris didn't even use the KL GTR in practice and decided to go with the GM in the meeting with the second GTR as his back-up bike. Both Kelvin and Marcel tried to convince him that a strong motor is required at Vojens, even if the track is slick but he wouldn't take it on board.

 

Chris chopped and changed from GM to GTR during the meeting but the fact is that the best option was back in Marcel's car. It's unlikely that the result of the meeting would have been any different but it is odd that having ridden so well at KL and enjoyed the engine so much that he then discarded it a few days later.

Edited June 12, 2015 by PHILIPRISING