MrP Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 It's also very noticeable that must of the people who are expressing their opinion are people who aren't going at the moment for various reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I’ve noticed the trend on several threads that when a side are having a less than successful season, results wise, out come the doom and gloom merchants predicting that attendances will dwindle and the club will shortly close down. If this were to be the case universally, then any club finishing bottom of the pile would cease to exist and league speedway would eventually run out of clubs. For me, the main attraction is exciting racing, slickly presented in a professional fashion, then hopefully, followed by my own team being good to watch and reasonably successful. I recognise that there are some customers whose main reason for attending is to win all the time (aka glory hunters), so they will disappear when the going gets tough. My own side have previously finished bottom of the table, so I know the feeling. I remember when Cradley Heath had poor sides in the 60’s/early 70’s, but because the racing at Dudley Wood was good to watch, they still had one of the largest home attendances of any club. IMO this prolonged spell of cold and wet weather is the major factor causing decreasing numbers coming through the turnstiles. I have visited Brough Park many times since 1968 and reckon the current racing is actually more exciting than previously, and I wish that George English & Co. continue to prosper there. Got to give you credit for a spot on assessment. It's also very noticeable that must of the people who are expressing their opinion are people who aren't going at the moment for various reasons. There's always the usuals, isn't there. If you look also at the Coventry V Poole thread, it is nearly all "those who don't attend" pontificating, the same set of non attenders that make up the group known as the Poole haters. Compare the names with the prominent posters on the Darcy Ward thread. Same posters. Don't attend, don't add to the sport but determined to criticise at every opportunity. The sport does need criticising at times of course, but some criticise just cos it's their nature to for their own gratification. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrace Grumbler Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 What about "Two Tracks" Tully? Has he retired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 i agree, but would it take much more funds to pay a 7 point man what you are currently paying a five point man who was seven point man lol...... If you dont improve the team you are in danger of losing more money by not attracting folk through the turnstyles as more and more matches will become meaningless....last nights crowd was one of the poorest ive seen in many a season... Id rather die trying personally.spot on mate,, going by the crowd on sunday the promotion must have lost money as it must have been the lowest this year so far, to get more fans back I would like to see the 4's qualifiers back rather than the league {mickey mouse}cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbieblackadder fan club Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Attended first meeting a couple of weeks ago with my 7 year old and the meeting took over 2 1/2 to get done and on a night before school that won't be happening again..why do meetings at Newcastle take so long. Noticed the other week the meeting away to Berwick was over and done before 8.30 now that's more like it....all of these things add up. You say people moan isn't that what freedom of speech is all about expressing your opinions. There are a lot of people on here think that it's only their opinion that counts and if the don't tow the party line they are called..maybe it's that blinkered opinion that people just think sod it I just won't go anymore 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Attended first meeting a couple of weeks ago with my 7 year old and the meeting took over 2 1/2 to get done and on a night before school that won't be happening again..why do meetings at Newcastle take so long. Noticed the other week the meeting away to Berwick was over and done before 8.30 now that's more like it....all of these things add up. You say people moan isn't that what freedom of speech is all about expressing your opinions. There are a lot of people on here think that it's only their opinion that counts and if the don't tow the party line they are called..maybe it's that blinkered opinion that people just think sod it I just won't go anymore Your spot on mate, I havent been this season and reading comments on here from 'certain' people and also the comments regarding length of time the meetings still take its not making me want to go. How many seasons now have meetings just dragged on?? There are 2 sets of ppl on here: The real fans who seem to want changes Friends of the promotion who stick up for them no matter what and come out with certain comments like 'who is available' and 'why change things'. Newcastle speedway need to look at why they are losing all these fans and why a couple of us are thinking of having a trip up to Berwick soon for our speedway fix!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulS Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 From some of the comments on this thread, you would think Sheffield had come and hammered us rather than been lucky to lose by only 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrP Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 It's not only at Newcastle that meetings drag on and I agree that 2 and a half hours to run a meeting isn't acceptable,but why doesn't the referee give people the hurry up? Yes this is a forum and like people say everyone is entitled to their opinion. I myself have only been to see the Diamonds three times this season but not because I didn't want to go it was because of health problems. I agree that it comes across as some people can see no wrong and support the promotion whatever, but it can also be said that certain people will find fault with everything. The crowd on Sunday was poor but there was the added attraction of the Magic Weekend. Speedway in general is struggling in this country and in my opinion needs major surgery if it is too survive, you just have to look at the farce from Monday evening. As for going to Berwick wow things must be bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 The match against Glasgow had the tractor out longer than the bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 The match against Glasgow had the tractor out longer than the bikes. Really!! I like Tractors. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Really!! I like Tractors. :D So do I but I prefer speedway racing. I don't think one of the starting gate staff likes tractors, he tried to decapitate the driver with the tapes. Edited June 3, 2015 by tyretrax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 So do I but I prefer speedway racing. I don't think one of the starting gate staff likes tractors, he tried to decapitate the drive with the tapes. Ouch!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Ouch!! That's not what the driver said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 That's not what the driver said. they should've used stronger tape,,, then he might not have said anything, lol,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idanthyrsus Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Attended first meeting a couple of weeks ago with my 7 year old and the meeting took over 2 1/2 to get done and on a night before school that won't be happening again..why do meetings at Newcastle take so long. Noticed the other week the meeting away to Berwick was over and done before 8.30 now that's more like it....all of these things add up. You say people moan isn't that what freedom of speech is all about expressing your opinions. There are a lot of people on here think that it's only their opinion that counts and if the don't tow the party line they are called..maybe it's that blinkered opinion that people just think sod it I just won't go anymore I don't live in the NorthEast anymore, so get to very few meetings (the odd away meeting), but follow most of the matches on the excellent live service on the Newcastle Website. I've noticed that recently (i.e. the last five years or so), meetings take a lot longer than they used to back in around 2001 when I last went every week. Usually, back then the meeting started at 6:30 and would finish around 8:15 if there had not been an unusual number of hold-ups. Obviously sometimes it went on much later. I think this is down to track preparation. Back in time, the track was prepared for a fifteen heat meeting - was very wet at the start (gaters paradise) and then got better for the racing brigade as the meeting progressed. At the moment, the track is prepared as well as it can be, which is obviously designed to give better and more enjoyable racing, but does mean that the tractors are out re-doing the track every four heats. There was also no 'sun' breaks. Or meeting interval (who thought that would be a good idea?), so I suspect this is the main reason for the additional time, which to me is simply wasted time. Just my thoughts - your views may vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Really!! I like Tractors. :D i did but went off them for my love of ventilation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantodan Posted June 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Message to absent Newcastle Speedway fans. You are still interested otherwise you wouldn't be reading this. You were once a fan and maybe you will come back again. I know as I did that in the 1980s. But back then I had a chance to come back as Newcastle Speedway was still running. The sport is losing money at Brough through lack of support through the turnstiles and if the decline continues George and the others may decide to throw in the towel. Be sure that if or when Brough Park stops staging speedway then that will be the end to one of the countries longest serving speedway tracks. I think if Brough closes it will never again host speedway. So you have stopped supporting Newcastle Speedway through the turnstiles but are still interested enough to come on here. Then I urge you to come back every week otherwise you may not have the choice in the future as our great old track will join the "Defunct Speedways" and I will have the very upsetting task of adding Newcastle Speedway to my www.defunctspeedway.co.uk website 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulS Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Kudos to you for trying to drum up support. I personally have never understood the 'I'll come if I think we will win a trophy' brigade. As long as your team doesn't get repeatedly spanked at home, surely you either do or don't want live speedway? One question though, Diamonds have survived previous closures, why would another (god forbid) be terminal? I for one will continue to turn out and support the lads every week. This team has the talent and potential for most to add to their averages. Makes me laugh when posters on this forum talk about abandoning this team and becoming a Berwick supporter (no disrespect to Berwick, I always like visiting your fast track with its seating and great choice of viewing points). Kudos to you for trying to drum up support. I personally have never understood the 'I'll come if I think we will win a trophy' brigade. As long as your team doesn't get repeatedly spanked at home, surely you either do or don't want live speedway? One question though, Diamonds have survived previous closures, why would another (god forbid) be terminal? I for one will continue to turn out and support the lads every week. This team has the talent and potential for most to add to their averages. Makes me laugh when posters on this forum talk about abandoning this team and becoming a Berwick supporter (no disrespect to Berwick, I always like visiting your fast track with its seating and great choice of viewing points). Oops!! Blasted double-click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Kudos to you for trying to drum up support. I personally have never understood the 'I'll come if I think we will win a trophy' brigade. As long as your team doesn't get repeatedly spanked at home, surely you either do or don't want live speedway? One question though, Diamonds have survived previous closures, why would another (god forbid) be terminal? I for one will continue to turn out and support the lads every week. This team has the talent and potential for most to add to their averages. Makes me laugh when posters on this forum talk about abandoning this team and becoming a Berwick supporter (no disrespect to Berwick, I always like visiting your fast track with its seating and great choice of viewing points). Kudos to you for trying to drum up support. I personally have never understood the 'I'll come if I think we will win a trophy' brigade. As long as your team doesn't get repeatedly spanked at home, surely you either do or don't want live speedway? One question though, Diamonds have survived previous closures, why would another (god forbid) be terminal? I for one will continue to turn out and support the lads every week. This team has the talent and potential for most to add to their averages. Makes me laugh when posters on this forum talk about abandoning this team and becoming a Berwick supporter (no disrespect to Berwick, I always like visiting your fast track with its seating and great choice of viewing points). Oops!! Blasted double-click. Planning permission, I'd guess. A new planning permission application would be needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Planning permission, I'd guess. A new planning permission application would be needed. I think the local residents would kick up a stink. As it is currently running, they put up with it. Were they to try to set up again after a year or twos closure I think there could be a big problem. I would think that there would be a lot of objections from the local folk. Let's just hope that it doesn't come to closure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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