sommelier Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Could not believe how poor the crowd was last night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Could not believe how poor the crowd was last night! Mate, are you coming down tomorrow night ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Weslakes had magic boxes  Havvy should be fined nobody else Early Weslake had points! Mate, are you coming down tomorrow night ? Yes, was at the Leicester match, but got ther a bit late, only had time for a quick pint before the start! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Yep im a thinker. Â You got the last four letters right... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Â You got the last four letters right... Really, dam, my spellings never been the best.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) He wasn't allowed!! Isn't it up to Coventry who calls it off, what can sky do? threaten to not film them? If this was at Poole and Matt Ford wanted it called off what do you think would happen? Weak Coventry management. He wasn't allowed as it was fine in the morning, he would've called it based on forecast. That would be the same at any track. Sky and GoSpeed call the shots in a tv meeting, even track prep. Remember the promotion has lost thousands of pounds because of this. Edited June 2, 2015 by woz01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Weslakes had magic boxes  Havvy should be fined nobody else And points clever dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 He wasn't allowed as it was fine in the morning, he would've called it based on forecast. That would be the same at any track. Sky and GoSpeed call the shots in a tv meeting, even track prep. Remember the promotion has lost thousands of pounds because of this. I think you will find track prep will be how Poole like on wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 So, what are the exact terms of the agreement between Sky Sport and the Elite League? It sounds like it gives Sky complete control over whether or not a match goes ahead or is called off (before the start time anyway), and over how the track is prepared. How incredible! Did the promoters really agree to such terms? If they did, well they have no cause to protest when this sort of thing happens. I don't know how long the current agreement has left to run, but it looks like the promoters should grow a set of balls in any future negotiations and not give so much control to Sky Sports. Its all very well for Mick Horton to bemoan his ill fortune, but surely he should know full well what could happen under the terms of the agreement, something which he surely would have been a party to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I think you will find track prep will be how Poole like on wednesday. Then if that's the case it's one rule for one and a rule for the rest. Go Speed do the tracks when on tv especially with a dodgy forecast. If Horton did call it off earlier a fine and or points would been deducted no doubt! So, what are the exact terms of the agreement between Sky Sport and the Elite League? It sounds like it gives Sky complete control over whether or not a match goes ahead or is called off (before the start time anyway), and over how the track is prepared. How incredible! Did the promoters really agree to such terms? If they did, well they have no cause to protest when this sort of thing happens. I don't know how long the current agreement has left to run, but it looks like the promoters should grow a set of balls in any future negotiations and not give so much control to Sky Sports. Its all very well for Mick Horton to bemoan his ill fortune, but surely he should know full well what could happen under the terms of the agreement, something which he surely would have been a party to? GoSpeed sort the deal with Sky don't they. I don't think promoters are involved but could be wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015    GoSpeed sort the deal with Sky don't they. I don't think promoters are involved but could be wrong  So GoSpeed are basically middlemen, are they? Acting on behalf of the promoters? And the promoters give them a completely free hand? Even more incredible! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 What do you expect, it is the same as the rights to the World Championships that the bspa and others have given away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 What do you expect, it is the same as the rights to the World Championships that the bspa and others have given away. Â Â The BSPA have never owned the rights to the World Championship. If they had been savvy they would have bought them though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Â Â The BSPA have never owned the rights to the World Championship. If they had been savvy they would have bought them though Agreed, they do not own the rights but they along with other federations could have refused to ride in the current system unless they were paid money from it, or set up their own World Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 To of avoided a fine the Coventry riders just needed to appear at the start & let the Pirates pair get away & follow on without actually trying. Not so easy as a racer tho. Â I remember Hans charging around Poole once trying to get a meeting on with a wet track, can't remember who it was against when others wanted it off. A better way from a more astute team manager would have been for both Bees to go to start, one go thro tapes to be replaced by reserve, in restart another Bee goes thro tapes to be replaced by the other reserve. In the next restart a Bee goes thro tapes. Three tapes excs and replacements taking their full 2 minutes each, plus a bit extra I guess and the track would have been a river and impossible to ride in. Sense would prevail meeting abandoned before heat 10 could be concluded, if not the fourth Bees rider ploughs thro the tapes - point well and truly made and no riders put at risk of a fine! Yes it would be a bad advert for the sport but what exactly was last night. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Could not believe how poor the crowd was last night! I can. With torrential rain and gale force winds, if I hadn't had a season ticket I might have not gone as would have thought it might be called off and also not much fun with rain blowing at you all night. I think you will find track prep will be how Poole like on wednesday. Yes I imagine it will as it was in the plays offs home and away. Makes you question why that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Looking at the crowd last night it looked like it was just ST holders, and the way the supporters are treated I doubt any future sky matches will attract many more. Â Can anyone provide heat times for heat 1 to heat 10 as I should think that will say a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I can. With torrential rain and gale force winds, if I hadn't had a season ticket I might have not gone as would have thought it might be called off and also not much fun with rain blowing at you all night. Â Yes I imagine it will as it was in the plays offs home and away. Makes you question why that is Well i was a neutral supporter last night hoping to watch arguably the match of the season! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 You abolish the heat 10 rule then clubs will loose tonnes of money throughout the season. Yes the heat 10 rule must go but what happens when rain falls at heat 14 and it's abandoned???? Re run whole meeting meaning clubs will have to pay rent and riders wages for a extra meeting. Not forgetting the fans paying extra. There is no good solution to mother nature Imagine running a business and part of your marketing is to openly inform your customers that every now and then, at a moments notice, you will only provide them with two thirds of the goods that they had earlier paid for and just to rub a little salt into the wound, you will not provide them with even one penny of refund for the products that they didnt get.... Â Imagine also then being really surprised that 1000's of customers dont come and visit you!? Â Bet Richard Branson is in awe of a business plan like this... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 So, what are the exact terms of the agreement between Sky Sport and the Elite League? It sounds like it gives Sky complete control over whether or not a match goes ahead or is called off (before the start time anyway), and over how the track is prepared. How incredible! Did the promoters really agree to such terms? If they did, well they have no cause to protest when this sort of thing happens. I don't know how long the current agreement has left to run, but it looks like the promoters should grow a set of balls in any future negotiations and not give so much control to Sky Sports. Its all very well for Mick Horton to bemoan his ill fortune, but surely he should know full well what could happen under the terms of the agreement, something which he surely would have been a party to? The officials are the only people who can call a match off. AKA pro football, the referee is the only person who can call off the match. Sky do not have the authority to call off a match although in the interest of the sport it would be good if televised fixtures could go ahead but as we have seen over the years sometimes meetings are called off before the scheduled start and also during teh meting itself. We speedway loving folk should treat Sky as our friends and not some dark murky bogeyman hellbent on ruining our sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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