YerRopes Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Thanks Nigel - 'Poole did nothing wrong'!! Poole simply scored more points on a track that Coventry weren't able to prepare to their own liking. That vendetta's a real ba$£@rd ain't it Havvy?! Some of the regular haters really need to get a life if there was any fault on Poole's part tonight. Show some class in your dubious victory Skidder.. You and the infantile Speedwayfun seem incapable of that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Maybe so,but its about now and putting things right.Wouldn't it have been nice to see an official put there foot down and say sod it these boys ain't racing in this.It has to start somewhere so why not now. Bet if this was a GP the officials wouldn't have let it carry on. So it was alright last year when Bees were winning but not this year when they were losing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I was there last year and whilst it was raining against Swindon, it was nowhere near how it was tonight. I don't remember gale force win or torrential rain throughout. This was a new low for the sport Have to agree ...I remember the Swindon meeting and to me the track was ok to carry on thou Swindon and our fans toys come out the pram ...it was nothing like tonight at all . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 So it was alright last year when Bees were winning but not this year when they were losing We all know you hate Cov Steve, it goes back a few years now doesn't it.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I was there last year and whilst it was raining against Swindon, it was nowhere near how it was tonight. I don't remember gale force win or torrential rain throughout. This was a new low for the sport You are right - it wasn't as windy but when the rain started, it certainly came down! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyhine Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Just a thought the heat 9 crash if Newman had of been injured would the meeting have carried on ? Thank god he wasn't though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 So it was alright last year when Bees were winning but not this year when they were losing it was ok last year because the track was ok thou I understand not everyone thought the same ..tonight no one thought the track was ok before heat 10 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Let's get something right here, this is NOT Pooles fault. It's the piss poor rules and officials that are the issue here. The 10 heat rule is a load of rubbish and is killing the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Show some class in your dubious victory Skidder.. You and the infantile Speedwayfun seem incapable of that... Its difficult to show class in a dubious victory - its even more difficult when Poole are getting the blame for doing absolutely nothing wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 We all know you hate Cov Steve, it goes back a few years now doesn't it.. I don't hate Coventry and I think they will win the league and will deserve it because they have the best team this year! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 What a truly awful meeting, that benefitted no-one. Every single aspect of the sport was shamed, The SCB Officials, the Team managers, the Referee, the sky Broadcast, everybody. This 10 race rule is an absolute joke. and makes the whole sport a mockery. Last week at Lynn we had to have a secret ballot about the raceability of the track, Here tonight, the track was far worse yet we had to have this meeting because Sky say so. They do more harm in instance like this than all the good they normally do.. Although not a good way to win, Poole deserved it tonight because they rode in a professional manner in bad conditions, giving little away. Coventry on the other hand was foolhardy and some rode as if it was a usual dry track. In situations like this you have to finish the race to score points. Coventry gave more points away than the Pirates actually score. Garrity was a liability and messed up every race. Probably, with a better leader with ideas and direction, the Bee's could have done far better with the star riders they had... Giving the opposition 5-0's is not a best way to perform..... Like I said, Nobody won tonight........ 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 So it was alright last year when Bees were winning but not this year when they were losing Did I say it was alright,no.I said they have to start somewhere.So how you put we have to put up with this all the while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Its difficult to show class in a dubious victory - its even more difficult when Poole are getting the blame for doing absolutely nothing wrong. Don't you mean that as a Poole fan, you don't know what 'winning with class' means.. Just look at the smirking Middlo tonight.. BTW... the whole forum know I am right Edited June 1, 2015 by Yer Ropes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pirate Nick Posted June 1, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I think everyone is missing the point here. IMO if this meeting hadn't been on Sky it would have been called this morning based on the weather forecast (I was going but decided against it after looking at the weather). Spoke to a friend this morning who was giving me a lift and told him I wasn't bothering as it was going to be a race to Ht 10 on a rubbish wet track. Its about time promoters stood their ground where Sky are concerned. As for the meeting, IMO it should have been called after the off in Ht 9. Why wasn't it? More pressure from Sky? An official with no balls? You can't blame Poole for wanting to continue and to be fair on the TV footage that was shown it looked like they were keeping out of it for the most part. Obviously Poole were willing to go to 10 as Havvy would have been if the boot was on the other foot. So whats needed here is strong officials and for those officials to not be bothered about pi$$ing Sky off. I feel sorry for Horton in all this as he's lost what must be one of his biggest gates of the season I hope the Sky money was worth it. I would suggest in the longer term with the damage this has done the sport that it wasn't. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) You're right, every other team would have done the same thing as Poole. However, would the outcome have been the same if Poole had been losing and trying to get the meeting off. Unfortunately, past history has shown that the interests of Sky and Poole are intertwined. I certainly don't accept that there is some sort of conspiracy between Sky, SCB officials and Poole Speedway. Such a suggestion to me smacks of paranoia and/or a vendetta against the Pirates. Given the huge amount of pressure put on promotions to run televised meetings and run them to heat 10 (because lets face it had this not been on the box it would have been postponed mid morning as Belle Vue and Wolverhampton were), I have no doubt that the decision would have been the same. The real issue is nothing to do with Poole. Its about promotions not having the balls to call Sky meetings off and referees having some backbone to do what is right in the circumstances. While it might be suggested that a postponement would have annoyed Sky, this farce will have done far greater damage to the relationship between the broadcaster and the sport than if it had been called off this morning. EDIT : Pirate Nick has said exactly the same things I have but I didn't see his post before I put mine on. Edited June 1, 2015 by Halifaxtiger 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Don't you mean that as a Poole fan, you don't what 'winning with class' means.. Just look at the smirking Middlo tonight.. BTW... the whole forum know I am right Of course Middlo was 'smirking' as would every other team manager if he'd just been gifted a win by a combination of track conditions, officials and another team manager who refused to allow his riders (who wanted to ride) to go onto the track! Edited June 1, 2015 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Don't you mean that as a Poole fan, you don't what 'winning with class' means.. Just look at the smirking Middlo tonight.. BTW... the whole forum know I am right Y'know thats what did it for me - he and his team, with the exception of Holder couldnt even muster any diginified kind of poker face while all the arguments were going on. Standing there with s**t eating grins isnt the way to do it. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Well what can I say..???? Yet again a complete farce from the officials and people who run speedway from the bottom level to the top ( Polish GP ring any bells..!! ) they couldn't run a p*** up in a brewery. No wonder the sport is a laughing stock. Fans S*** on again from a very great height. Refunds due I think. I don't know any other sport run so unprofessionally. No wonder the crowd was so abismal. Completely agree with the above....all I would add is that Poole for once did nothing wrong...Havvy made himself look a fool again...had it been the other way round though Middledick would have done exactly the same...win at all costs and its sad for speedway...team managers should realy be getting together and setting the example not acting like the clowns that these two have both have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim3751 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 This has turned into a blame the team/manager we don't like but really every time this sort of nonsense happens it is supposed to be the neutral clerk of the course or referee that has to make the call. BUT THEY NEVER DO. Ronnie Russell the Sky track rep pokes his oar in and they always carry on. Nobody has the bottle to tell Sky that the meeting has to be abandoned. Even in Heat 10 it was so dangerous that Holder nearly wiped out Watt in a non race. What a joke. Then Nigel and Kelvin have to waffle on with their bland tosh to fill in the remaining time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I think everyone is missing the point here. IMO if this meeting hadn't been on Sky it would have been called this morning based on the weather forecast (I was going but decided against it after looking at the weather). Spoke to a friend this morning who was giving me a lift and told him I wasn't bothering as it was going to be a race to Ht 10 on a rubbish wet track. Its about time promoters stood their ground where Sky are concerned. As for the meeting, IMO it should have been called after the off in Ht 9. Why wasn't it? More pressure from Sky? An official with no balls? You can't blame Poole for wanting to continue and to be fair on the TV footage that was shown it looked like they were keeping out of it for the most part. Obviously Poole were willing to go to 10 as Havvy would have been if the boot was on the other foot. So whats needed here is strong officials and for those officials to not be bothered about pi$$ing Sky off. I feel sorry for Horton in all this as he's lost what must be one of his biggest gates of the season I hope the Sky money was worth it. I would suggest in the longer term with the damage this has done the sport that it wasn't. I don't think as a Coventry fan I have ever agreed with a Poole fan so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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