Kings1st Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 It was indeed a poor night for Kent. Some bad luck, bad officials decisions and below par performances. The overall trend for Kent has been upward over the last few weeks so maybe this is just blip. There are positives - Aaron Baseby looks like he's hitting good form and James Shanes produced the best ride anyone has seen at CP. Ben Morley may just have used up his bad luck in one meeting and Danny Ayres won't keep hitting the same bend 2 bit of grip that kept throwing him offline. Onward and upward Kings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven101 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 who remain very weak at thee bottom end..But where are replacements to come from ???? Maybe time to give that sanderson a go? What about reece downes maybe did ok last year for scunny all things considering. Cant think of anyone else off top of my head really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 ...Zach W was awesome to watch and in my view the next tai woffinden. ... my text updates about Kirby ... Firstly the Brummies centre green announcer compared Alex Wilson to Tomasz Gollob. Teaboy compares Zach Whatsit to Tai Woffinden and someone on Speedway Updates compares Adam Kirby to Nicki Pedersen...any more world champion comparisons? Coming back to the comments about Kirby on the Updates site, maybe people were thinking that you were implying a degree of malevolence in Kirby's riding. They were simply pointing out that he may be lacking a complete skill set (he's only a hard trying NL rider after all) and he wasn't really the embodyment of all things evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Firstly the Brummies centre green announcer compared Alex Wilson to Tomasz Gollob. Teaboy compares Zach Whatsit to Tai Woffinden and someone on Speedway Updates compares Adam Kirby to Nicki Pedersen...any more world champion comparisons? Coming back to the comments about Kirby on the Updates site, maybe people were thinking that you were implying a degree of malevolence in Kirby's riding. They were simply pointing out that he may be lacking a complete skill set (he's only a hard trying NL rider after all) and he wasn't really the embodyment of all things evil. Yes, James Shanes to Peter Collins after that ride! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Meldrew Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Adam Ellis was moving at the gate in each of his races and despite being warned twice by the referee no action was taken. He should have been excluded on a least one occasion. Kent Kings reserves woeful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim the whipper Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Firstly the Brummies centre green announcer compared Alex Wilson to Tomasz Gollob. Teaboy compares Zach Whatsit to Tai Woffinden and someone on Speedway Updates compares Adam Kirby to Nicki Pedersen...any more world champion comparisons? Coming back to the comments about Kirby on the Updates site, maybe people were thinking that you were implying a degree of malevolence in Kirby's riding. They were simply pointing out that he may be lacking a complete skill set (he's only a hard trying NL rider after all) and he wasn't really the embodyment of all things evil. Obviously you are a brummies fan , and have never had the misfortune to have to be on a speedway track at the same time as Adam Kirby , the list of riders he has knocked off and the thousands of pounds worth of other peoples equipment he has damaged is enormous , right back to his days in the MDL he has been a danger to anyone in the same race as him .. is it Something to do with the name Adam because Sheppard is almost as bad ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Oh dear Sings for Kings Oh dear indeed. I admit I did say on the way home would have to eat humble pie today. Think that a decent replacement for Chapman and R/R for Banks worked brilliantly for Brum and will continue to do so until Waj moves up into the main team. If Kent didn't have bad luck last night they would have had no luck at all. Ben had a disaster with chains, Danny seemed to have lost some of his powers after his haircut and rare mistakes from Aaron. Thank goodness for James Shanes. As expected Jamie struggled in the main body of the team and will need time to settle. Not sure what the issue is with Danno? Confidence, equipment but it looks like he is going to struggle even at reserve. Adam spent most of the night on the deck but for once got the decisions in his favour and again saved his best 4 laps for after the meeting. Maybe time to give that sanderson a go? What about reece downes maybe did ok last year for scunny all things considering. Cant think of anyone else off top of my head really. Sanderson couldn't be bothered with P&P so personally not interested in him and not seen or heard of Reece Downes doing anything this year so would imagine he is as rusty as Matt Saul looked. The answers? Not sure but I think Rye House on Saturday could be equally unpleasant. Oh and well done Birmingham. I concede you are not a terrible side and will not be bottom Obviously you are a brummies fan , and have never had the misfortune to have to be on a speedway track at the same time as Adam Kirby , the list of riders he has knocked off and the thousands of pounds worth of other peoples equipment he has damaged is enormous , right back to his days in the MDL he has been a danger to anyone in the same race as him .. is it Something to do with the name Adam because Sheppard is almost as bad ? Adam Kirby was one of the reasons I didn't leave early last night. Having repeatedly seen the mayhem he has caused I cannot take my eyes off him. He reminds me of a large Russian bear riding a tiny bicycle except the bears have the ability to not fall off at the slightest breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted June 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 So the first Heat last night was FIVE Laps ????????? Is it really that hard to count to 4 !!! Another example that makes Speedway look so Amateurish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 So the first Heat last night was FIVE Laps ????????? Is it really that hard to count to 4 !!! Another example that makes Speedway look so Amateurish. Well done Brummies,deserved win, with a great reserve and back up to boot. Kent - well - disaster ? Morley - Unusually bad night for him. Couzins - way our of depth in main body. Baseby - Very average tonight. Ayres - Did OK -not at his best. Shanes - IF ONLY WE HAD 7 of him. Verge - going to struggle even at reserve. Sheppard - Struggles just to stay on bike. Kent are way behind Brummies,Cradley and Eastbourne. At least a couple of changes are needed. A crazy night last night and now I agree with two AJ posts in a row Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted June 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 A crazy night last night and now I agree with two AJ posts in a row Of course you would as I am always right ? Ha ha ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Despite all the mayhem last night, I really enjoyed the meeting. Far more entertaining than the farce on sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kings1st Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 It was indeed a poor night for Kent. Some bad luck, bad officials decisions and below par performances. The overall trend for Kent has been upward over the last few weeks so maybe this is just blip. There are positives - Aaron Baseby looks like he's hitting good form and James Shanes produced the best ride anyone has seen at CP. Ben Morley may just have used up his bad luck in one meeting and Danny Ayres won't keep hitting the same bend 2 bit of grip that kept throwing him offline. Onward and upward Kings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Kev Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) My first visit Central Park and got to say very impressed, its one of the best stadiums Ive watched speedway in in this country. I dont know what crowds are like there but looked a good crowd for the NL and a number of Brummies made the trip. I really enjoyed the meeting, obviously bound to say that cos of the result but there was some overtaking, controversey and some great performances from two of talent young riders around in Zach Wajtknecht and James Shanes. Its a pity the ref did his best in trying to spoil it. Honestly I was gobsmacked with Heat 1, the start marshall loses count and doesnt put chequered flag out when its 4-2 Brummies. Morley then falls on the "fith" lap, and we go through for the 5-1. At that point Morley is pushing his bike through for a point but why the hell doesnt the ref put the red light realising 4 laps have been completed and award it at what it was after 4 laps. Worse thing is, the guy filming for Rerun was offering to show the ref a replay of the race! He was punishing Ellis for moving when he didnt and not bringing it back when he did. Im not sre Heat 4 exclusion of Wilson was right, didnt seem much contact just hard riding into the bend. Also maybe we got lucky with Kirby not getting excluded in Heat 14 either way Entwistle wont be getting high scores for his performance in this match, thats if the scb even bother to score refs for their performance Fantastic performance from the Brummies, Zach the star of the show. I was amazed by his performance, it was his ride at Kent and for him to perform like that was brilliant. For someone who is in their first year in the NL, hes looks smooth and stylish on the bike. Hes not known for his gating in the meetings Ive watch him but he gated in most of his heats last night. In truth I was impressed with all the Brummies even Alex Wilson as he showed alot of effort again on a track hes not rode before. Thanks to Connor Coles for guesting. What excitement James Shanes provided, Heat 11 springs to mind straight away. Great ride to pass both Perry and Ellis almost an even better celebration, he knows hoe to lap up the fans applause. He looks anolther talent and already a fan favourite with Kent fans and given the entertainment he provides most speedway fans in general. Edited June 2, 2015 by Brummie Kev 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Very accurate assessment Kev. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robolots Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) I can't really disagree with a lot said about this match. Well done to Birmingham on a well deserved victory, even though there couldn't of been much more bad luck for Kent on the night! Zach is certainly a talented rider, but the National League needs to make it's mind up if it is a league for bringing riders on or a 3rd tier professional league. The mysterious Banks injury makes a mockery of the rules and obviously allowed Zach to have 7 rides. I don't blame Birmingham for doing it and to be honest it happens all the time. Kirby, all I am going to say is no comment!!!! I'm not sure why riding at number 2 is that much harder than riding at 6. If you look at the program, there isn't really that much difference in who you ride against. It is only at 7 you get a much easier ride. As someone who knows Jamie personally, all I can say is he is doing his best. It is his first season riding in a proper team and he has gone up to number 2 as he has improved his starting average. He needs to improve his gating and if he does this he should score more points and find it a bit easier. I know he has changed some things for Saturday in this respect. If anyone ever wants to know anything in respect of Jamie and what did or didn't happen in a race/meeting or just something in general, feel free to ask and I will get you a response from either his team or Jamie personally. All I ask is please don't post anything without knowing the full facts. He knows when he could of done better and it doesn't help a lads confidence if there is some ill judged comment made. P.s. that meeting has got to be one of the worst performances by a referee I have ever seen!!!! Edited June 4, 2015 by robolots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Robolots since you ask for observations on Jamie,, i have noticed he sits a long way back on the bike making it more likely to lift if throttle is applied more strongly and i think he would have more confidence to go faster if he adjusted his weight a little further forward ..You can not ride these modern bikes in the style of the great Jack Young of years ago. I would be interested in your thoughts on this,,I think he is going ok for his limited expierience,,just looking at a possible way he could improve.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robolots Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Totally 100% agree Waco, we also going to tie a couple of bricks round his head to keep it lower to the first turn lower lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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