Vince Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Isn't that the point when we are talking about the Gerhard engine? Better engineering supposedly makes it more reliable and comparable to mainstream engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 See a few GTR engines have been put up for sale and going back to their GMs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Was Chris Harris riding a GTR on Saturday at KL, or were my eyes deceiving me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 See a few GTR engines have been put up for sale and going back to their GMs when you say a few what do you mean by a few 5 10 15? or maybe the odd 1 or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 when you say a few what do you mean by a few 5 10 15? or maybe the odd 1 or 2. Some riders are still testing both, I see Paul Hurry has one now. There are some posters who seem to dig out anything not 100% positive about GTRs. On the whole the number of GTR users is increasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 when you say a few what do you mean by a few 5 10 15? or maybe the odd 1 or 2. Probably two, and they were both juniors asking quite high prices for their used engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Some riders are still testing both, I see Paul Hurry has one now. There are some posters who seem to dig out anything not 100% positive about GTRs. On the whole the number of GTR users is increasing. I cant agree more with what you say some posters look on speedway for sale sites on facebook see a couple for sale and come to the conclusion its all down hill for the GTR.i see woffy has one now,when where and if he decides to use it will be interesting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 One decision I don't understand is why gerhard made them twin cam instead of single cam , history tells you twin cams are very hit and miss on speedway , I believe if he had made it single cam you would see a lot more use of them but either waty can speedway afford the GTR to fail ?and I'm talking about the sport in general not what the bspa has riding on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Some riders are still testing both, I see Paul Hurry has one now. There are some posters who seem to dig out anything not 100% positive about GTRs. On the whole the number of GTR users is increasing. The engine paul was testing belongs to Kelvin Tatum he has had some of the lakeside riders try it to see how it goes A few other riders are trying the ones the belong to the BSPA I know of a good few that have tried the loan ones but don't seem to get to grips with it it's either a hit or miss and there are a few Junior riders buying them just for the saving on maintainance which might help in the long run giving them time to get it working for them Edited July 4, 2017 by mac101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 saw my first tuned one last night , it's been fettled and had different camshafts, and so it continues ............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 saw my first tuned one last night , it's been fettled and had different camshafts, and so it continues ............. If you buy an unsealed one (more expensive) you can do whatever you like with it. The sealed ones are already tuned and come with a warranty that is broken if the seal is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 The sealed ones are already tuned and come with a warranty that is broken if the seal is.And for the full circle on this, isnt there just one GTR engine, same spec allround??? Thought the seal is there just that it can be reqocnised as a bspa special prized. Or something like that. The sealed ones are already tuned and come with a warranty that is broken if the seal is.And for the full circle on this, isnt there just one GTR engine, same spec allround??? Thought the seal is there just that it can be reqocnised as a bspa special prized. Or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 saw my first tuned one last night , it's been fettled and had different camshafts, and so it continues ............. a camshaft is a common component to change in a speedway engine, different cams suit different riders I wouldn't read too much into that how do you know it had been tuned and by who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 And for the full circle on this, isnt there just one GTR engine, same spec allround??? Thought the seal is there just that it can be reqocnised as a bspa special prized. Or something like that. And for the full circle on this, isnt there just one GTR engine, same spec allround??? Thought the seal is there just that it can be reqocnised as a bspa special prized. Or something like that. The 'seal' allows the warranty, if you don't care you can break the seal and do what you will, there have been unsealed ones on sale for two or more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 The 'seal' allows the warranty, if you don't care you can break the seal and do what you will, there have been unsealed ones on sale for two or more years.Didnt the engine make it's first appearance and GP points last year in Prague? I could be wrong, time is flying at the moment. Anyways, nice to have a new engine that works and is used. ATM not the "must have" piece of kit IMO, but time will tell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Didnt the engine make it's first appearance and GP points last year in Prague? I could be wrong, time is flying at the moment. Anyways, nice to have a new engine that works and is used. ATM not the "must have" piece of kit IMO, but time will tell... Harris had one a year before that, was still using it in his grass bike last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Anyways, nice to have a new engine that works and is used. ATM not the "must have" piece of kit IMO, but time will tell... TBF I seem to remember the plan was not to have the fastest engine that was going to win GPs and World Titles but to have an engine that was good enough for the run off the mill league rider that would save them money over a couple of season. Well so far it's won more than expected (even if it is just a single GP) and it would appear that its saving riders money and doing what it promised. If others want to spend loads on it to make it faster well thats up to them but thats not its purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 TBF I seem to remember the plan was not to have the fastest engine that was going to win GPs and World Titles but to have an engine that was good enough for the run off the mill league rider that would save them money over a couple of season. Well so far it's won more than expected (even if it is just a single GP) and it would appear that its saving riders money and doing what it promised. If others want to spend loads on it to make it faster well thats up to them but thats not its purpose.True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 True. It is true but Gerhard have made a rod for their own back a little bit. Rider's purchasing these engines ain't just looking for reliability, they're now expecting Freddie Lindgren speed with that reliability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 but you cnt expect a rider in the champions league to ride like Freddie, nor the vast majority in the premier division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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