Popular Post Agostina Gerhard Posted May 31, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 It's very very likely that it was NOT an "out of the box" GTR - even with magical set ups from Freddie's team. Very few people believed that it was? Much more likely it is a "development" model and Freddie is the "test rider". If it's not broadcast loud and clear in the SS report of the Warsaw GP then we can be sure it is a "work in progress" that Freddie rides. Gerhard Engines produce/supplies just ONE version of the GTR. Just ONE engine set-up. FF has the same engine as we delivery to UK and the rest of the world. FF is not a test/works rider of Gerhard Engines. He is a client who tested the GTR end of 2015 and decided to equip himself with GTR engines for the upcoming season. He bougt 2 and then other 3. 2 GTR for UK and other 5 for Poland, Sweden and the SGP series. It may helps to understand why we have just ONE set-up if you would know more about the idea of Marcel Gerhard. He wanted to create a engine with a modern technology which allowed the engine to run for a longer time. In every other Motorsport category it is possible, so why don't in Speedway too, he thoughs. Having the knowledge of more than 30 years working on GMs and Jawas as tuner and been working a lot on Motocross, Endure, Supermotard engines too and he expirence as a former Speedway rider/ Longtrack Worldchampion the company had the best combition base to realise what we wanted. A fairer competition, supplying riders with the same equipment, saving the riders/promotors costs and try to give the sport a easier way for youngster to get in and the most important thing... to keep them in Speedway. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 so who is the Pole that has been caught ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 so who is the Pole that has been caught ? Read the topic in this section called cheating it's on one of the later pages Regards Inspector Clouseau 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Read the topic in this section called cheating it's on one of the later pages Regards Inspector Clouseau Posters always go off topic when the proper topic is there to be found, If the topic is not highlighted in bold then there has been no postings for a while so posters jump on anything, sometimes to wind people up. THIS TOPIC IS ABOUT THE GERHARD ENGINE, STICK TO IT. Hi Agostina. Welcome to the forum. As some riders are struggling to get perfect set up for themselves & bikes, without going in to too much detail, the engines are all the same & sealed. The engine is completely different to the GM having twin cams, it's own oil pump for better lubrication, a limiter & ignition system(electronic or differing mapping systems used). What are the adjustments that a rider & mechanic can do to find their personal setups just on the engine? Obviously, the ignition timing is one but are there outer adjustments elsewhere to be made like cam timing? A rider & his mechanic will sort out the bike variables like carb jetting, clutch adjustment, sprocket sizes, wheel base length, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Welcome Agostina. In addition to the above questions do you know the number of races that is recommended before a service takes place? What items are instructed to be replaced at each service interval? & what the cost would be to replace these items? Many Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 OK, so Fast Freddie isn't a "works" or developement rider, just a Customer, he could even be on a PJR/GTR, or whoever else he wants to breath life into his engines. Taking FF out of the equation, who else is making a living riding a Standard GTR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 OK, so Fast Freddie isn't a "works" or developement rider, just a Customer, he could even be on a PJR/GTR, or whoever else he wants to breath life into his engines. Taking FF out of the equation, who else is making a living riding a Standard GTR. nicki pedersen has started using them in Poland and Denmark until his crash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostina Gerhard Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 nicki pedersen has started using them in Poland and Denmark until his crash Gerhard Engines produced in 2015 a pre serie production over 30 engines. We haven't sales them until end of 2015 when Marcel Gerhard decided how the ONE engine set-up would be. In 2016 we sold those engines but the first fully production started in the winter time 16/17. If you can't see so many riders on the GTR is because we just started with a fully production. From those 30 engines we had Jordan Jenkins and FF changing complete to GTR, some went to long track riders (longtrack set-up) some other riders bought one and are using they old engines and one GTR. From the new production (winter 16/17) we have around 20 riders from the UK and some abroad. In the next few weeks you will see next to Nicki Pedersen other rider on this level on the GTR. How all the riders will scoring with the GTR will depending on how much time they will have to get used the GTR. We can see it with FF, as longer he was riding it as better his performance became. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 DURING a conversation last night I was told that Hancock, Woffinden and Zmarzlik have all recently acquired GTRs and been testing them but have not yet decided whether to chance them in a SGP. It would appear that Hancock, normally so electric from the tapes, Holder and Woffinden have all been having trouble at the starts although they do not know why. At least one of them will have a new PJR in Prague. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 DURING a conversation last night I was told that Hancock, Woffinden and Zmarzlik have all recently acquired GTRs and been testing them but have not yet decided whether to chance them in a SGP. It would appear that Hancock, normally so electric from the tapes, Holder and Woffinden have all been having trouble at the starts although they do not know why. At least one of them will have a new PJR in Prague. Let's hope it is Woffy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Nathan Greaves has one less now - it blew up during warm up tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Nathan Greaves has one less now - it blew up during warm up tonight. That sucks. Any idea how many races it had done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 That sucks. Any idea how many races it had done? I wouldnt know. He has been running 2 I believe so cant have been a great deal.Also wouldnt know if any issue was down to the engine or set up error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 CHIT chat around the Prague pits today .... Lindgren did 114 meetings last year and spent 3,000 euros on his engines and even some of that was unnecessary because he thought there might have been a problem in one but there wasn't. Another SGP rider did 75 meetings and spent 35,000 euros ... another did around 100 and spent 70,000 euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) CHIT chat around the Prague pits today .... Lindgren did 114 meetings last year and spent 3,000 euros on his engines and even some of that was unnecessary because he thought there might have been a problem in one but there wasn't. Another SGP rider did 75 meetings and spent 35,000 euros ... another did around 100 and spent 70,000 euros. Freddie on the Gerhard vs GM?..Staggering if true. Edited June 10, 2017 by Bald Bloke 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 CHIT chat around the Prague pits today .... Lindgren did 114 meetings last year and spent 3,000 euros on his engines and even some of that was unnecessary because he thought there might have been a problem in one but there wasn't. Another SGP rider did 75 meetings and spent 35,000 euros ... another did around 100 and spent 70,000 euros. Blimey!!! These Engine Tuners must be making a bloody fortune. :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Blimey!!! These Engine Tuners must be making a bloody fortune. :shock: Not according to them apparently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 The price of success is high I guess. Bloody daft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 It seems riders are also fleeing from PJR for other GM tuners Is this down to cost or simply they're no longer "THE" engine tuner to have? Who is doing Doyle's and the super fast Poles GP motors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 CHIT chat around the Prague pits today .... Lindgren did 114 meetings last year and spent 3,000 euros on his engines and even some of that was unnecessary because he thought there might have been a problem in one but there wasn't. Another SGP rider did 75 meetings and spent 35,000 euros ... another did around 100 and spent 70,000 euros. that's 26 Euros a meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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