montie Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 You couldn't make it up, thieving bas##### should be made to pay their members debts first, bet Marcel thinks he's won the lottery without having to buy a ticket. Why should other promotions suffer because some cant run a business properly? Many promotions run a very tight ship and pay their bills and continue to run speedway,is it fair that their money should be used to bail out others? So, how many Gerhard engines are known to have been purchased to date? How many have been seen in use at Press & Practice days or early season matches? Almost no mention of it has been made. Does that mean that there is very little interest in switching to G. engines from riders? Ryan Douglas used one at the show ground last Friday,once got it set up looked fast enough to me like anything new i guess they will need some time to work them out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 I'm not against the engines existence and all for freedom of choice but I would strongly appose compulsory use. In the same way that electric cars may be cheaper to run but how would the driving population feel if they were told it's the only vehicle allowed on UK roads 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KN1 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Why should other promotions suffer because some cant run a business properly? Many promotions run a very tight ship and pay their bills and continue to run speedway,is it fair that their money should be used to bail out others? Ryan Douglas used one at the show ground last Friday,once got it set up looked fast enough to me like anything new i guess they will need some time to work them out those clubs bond money would of been part of that money, Plymouth boys were told they had to wait for the half they were getting of what they were owed until the new promotion had paid their bond, hows that work. imo the money would be better spent on promoting the sport nationally, possibly a deal for shale/airfences etc with a supply company to be equally divided throughout the leagues etc Edited March 28, 2017 by KN1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 But all engines won't be equal, the PJR tuned GTR will be the quickest, but this argument will go on forever, but basically it will not happen, would very questionable if GTR could meet the numbers required worldwide. This isn't about "world wide" and PJR wouldn't be allowed to service a sealed engine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 So you have 2 donkey GTR's in the UK, then you fly out to ride in Sweden, Denmark, Poland and jump on your GM's. And who is going to service all the GTR's in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 So you have 2 donkey GTR's in the UK, then you fly out to ride in Sweden, Denmark, Poland and jump on your GM's. And who is going to service all the GTR's in the UK? Why cant you ride your "cheaper BSPA GTR'S" abroad? Freddie Lindgren did. And did okay... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Nicklas will be using the @gerhardengines on bike no1 @KLSpeedway this season. Very impressed with his timed laps at Lynn this week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 So you have 2 donkey GTR's in the UK, then you fly out to ride in Sweden, Denmark, Poland and jump on your GM's. And who is going to service all the GTR's in the UK? And what are the service costs in the UK? As ive said before im all for choice but a sole engine requirement would generate a monopoly and ultimately drive prices up as you have to buy a GTR whatever the costs. At present riders can choose where they service their engines, to what level and how much. Choose whether they wish to ride GM, Jawa, GTR or A.N.Other and that is the perfect scenario. There are currently very few enforced equipment uses in speedway & long may that continue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KN1 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Nicklas will be using the @gerhardengines on bike no1 @KLSpeedway this season. Very impressed with his timed laps at Lynn this week. Probably as in Douglas at sunny the chairman and his vice need someone them. Have they bought them I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 So you have 2 donkey GTR's in the UK, then you fly out to ride in Sweden, Denmark, Poland and jump on your GM's. And who is going to service all the GTR's in the UK? There are appointed servicing points, Trevor Hedge has one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KN1 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Why cant you ride your "cheaper BSPA GTR'S" abroad? Freddie Lindgren did. And did okay...Freddie went back to gerhardengines after each GPS to be set up and checked for the next. This will not be allowed in UK if they get their way. Also the way the bspa have pr'd it was if Freddie used the same engine everywhere. 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Freddie went back to gerhardengines after each GPS to be set up and checked for the next. This will not be allowed in UK if they get their way. Also the way the bspa have pr'd it was if Freddie used the same engine everywhere. 😂Cant say about what FL actually did, but the Pr part is probably correct. Also the sales pitch from GTR is that the engines are all the same, tuned to a degree, come and buy what FL was on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 do people on here honestly believe that any rider can ring up and get the exact same engine that FL uses in a GP from a different tuner and fully expect it to be exactly the same?...next you'll be posting that Swindons new stadium will be built and all riders get paid. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 do people on here honestly believe that any rider can ring up and get the exact same engine that FL uses in a GP from a different tuner and fully expect it to be exactly the same?...next you'll be posting that Swindons new stadium will be built and all riders get paid. They are all from the same tuner, Freddie doesn't use a different one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 They are all from the same tuner, Freddie doesn't use a different one. And actually they are not even "tuned" like GM's are individually. They are engines that have been tuned in the design stage and are all machined to the same specs. Again, this is what I read from Spar and GTR sale's pitch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 foamfence, on 29 Mar 2017 - 1:19 PM, said:They are all from the same tuner, Freddie doesn't use a different one. I thought there were several servicing points?...so how long before a "service/tuner" opens one up and tries out new springs etc etc?...perhaps all that glitters isn't gold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 I thought there were several servicing points?...so how long before a "service/tuner" opens one up and tries out new springs etc etc?...perhaps all that glitters isn't gold? Then he'd lose the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Then he'd lose the contract. Hence why it will never fully take off riders will ride whatever they want and no one will tell them different and pretty sure FL,s engine is not a standard out of the box GTR and no matter how many they produce they will not all perform the same ,its riders preference what they want to ride and will always be like that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 BSPA have obviously got to get them out there, who owns Lynn, of course, the bloke who's got a lot of them on his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Hence why it will never fully take off riders will ride whatever they want and no one will tell them different and pretty sure FL,s engine is not a standard out of the box GTR and no matter how many they produce they will not all perform the same ,its riders preference what they want to ride and will always be like that In that case why aren't they all riding 600s? They have to abide by the rules that are set, whether there is choice or there isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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