FAST GATER Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) That will be a miracle, you can buy an engine, take it out of the box, and be competitive at GP level, like Fast Freddie, I don't think so, somebody is doing a great sales job here. What if that is somewhere near the truth as has been said mix in experience ,skill and the confidence that the rest of the riders are only beating you because they are more skillful or have set their bikes set up better and not because they are riding rocket ships. Edited February 28, 2017 by FAST GATER 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Adam Skornicki was using a new prototype engine made by BMW tonight at Berwick strange looking engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Adam Skornicki was using a new prototype engine made by BMW tonight at Berwick strange looking engine I think that was the one he used last year at the Blue Riband in Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 So, how many Gerhard engines are known to have been purchased to date? How many have been seen in use at Press & Practice days or early season matches? Almost no mention of it has been made. Does that mean that there is very little interest in switching to G. engines from riders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Personally i haven't seen any around during the early season although have heard of a couple being tested. The last piece of speculation i heard was that there are some riders still awaiting delivery but due to question marks regarding how the engines will be sealed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Didn't see 1 Gerhard at the Simon Lambert testimonial yesterday. As I said before though, most of these engines won't be purchased until riders start blowing up their Jawa / GM's anyway. 2018 and beyond is where we may start to see a transition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Didn't see 1 Gerhard at the Simon Lambert testimonial yesterday. As I said before though, most of these engines won't be purchased until riders start blowing up their Jawa / GM's anyway. 2018 and beyond is where we may start to see a transition Jordan Jenkins used his Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Jordan Jenkins used his Thought it was 250 demo laps? Or do GTR make a 250 version also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Thought it was 250 demo laps? Or do GTR make a 250 version also? Yes they do, he uses 500s as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Did the BSPA spend money on ordering engines or is it a case of getting a discount if you mention them when ordering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KN1 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) As was admitted in the SS they used 360k of bspa money to fund a deal with gtr with a view to making them compulsory 😠. Whilst trying to shaft BV riders over pay. and Plymouth for definite and possibly Leicester riders getting half of what was owed to them.😠 Edited March 27, 2017 by KN1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 You couldn't make it up, thieving bas##### should be made to pay their members debts first, bet Marcel thinks he's won the lottery without having to buy a ticket. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) Spoken to a good few riders who have tried it and they all said the same they are just not fast enough and won't be buying them the GTR is about 10 bhp less than a decent GM and there is also another engine designed by BMW which is also being tried at the moment strange looking motor you have to plug into laptop to change most engine set ups for different track Edited March 27, 2017 by mac101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Spoken to a good few riders who have tried it and they all said the same they are just not fast enough and won't be buying them the GTR is about 10 bhp less than a decent GM and there is also another engine designed by BMW which is also being tried at the moment strange looking motor you have to plug into laptop to change most engine set ups for different track the other engine is not BMW , the guy who designed it did work for BMW but it has nothing to do with them , you don't plug it in to laptop to change anything , it' is still all mechanical but the ignition timing is changed by preset USB type plugs that you change when wanting different ignition timing , the engine has been around a few years now , it is a reliable engine , similar to GTR in that it is a twin cam , the oil stays in from service to service and it does 100 races between service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 the other engine is not BMW , the guy who designed it did work for BMW but it has nothing to do with them , you don't plug it in to laptop to change anything , it' is still all mechanical but the ignition timing is changed by preset USB type plugs that you change when wanting different ignition timing , the engine has been around a few years now , it is a reliable engine , similar to GTR in that it is a twin cam , the oil stays in from service to service and it does 100 races between serviceSo this in the ENGine by a fellow called Gaschka or similar? Been told the same, good engine, available to test eadily but cost a lot to hire and use. Not even sure they are for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 So this in the ENGine by a fellow called Gaschka or similar? Been told the same, good engine, available to test eadily but cost a lot to hire and use. Not even sure they are for sale. Gatzka.Gashka was the German guy(of Polish parents) who went to Poland to try his luck and then gave up http://www.kroner-speedway.de/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 So this in the ENGine by a fellow called Gaschka or similar? Been told the same, good engine, available to test eadily but cost a lot to hire and use. Not even sure they are for sale.yes , Adam scornicki has 2 on hire for this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) Didn't see one in the Polish pairs meeting on Eurosport. Everyone without a vested interest in the engine knew it was never going to do what was written on the tin, let's see the SS put a spin on this **** up, even Alistair Campbell would struggle with this one. Edited March 27, 2017 by Lord Skid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Would it matter if the GTR is 10hp less than a GM if all riders were on them ,please don't say the cost involved in changing because if the were 10hp more they would be sold out in double quick time.Perhaps as some have said working towards the GTR becoming the only engine for 2018 onwards would be a better way of riders getting used to them and and some use out of their existing GM 's. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 But all engines won't be equal, the PJR tuned GTR will be the quickest, but this argument will go on forever, but basically it will not happen, would very questionable if GTR could meet the numbers required worldwide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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