Gerhard Engine

[PHILIPRISING]

Just noticed in last weeks comic on page 28 that Danny King riding a GTR at Peterborough.

CORRECT ... he asked to try one after the SWC. Used his GM in his final, vital ride which won Ipswich the meeting, and later told Tatum that he wished he or Gerhard had been there to help with set-up.

 

Harris likely to use one at Cardiff, Lambert too if he gets a ride although of course he will have four practice sessions on Friday.

[weatherwatcher]

Not sure what engine Laguta was using then as the engine was the same shapre at the Gerhard, any clues, not a Gm he was using.

[foamfence]

Not sure what engine Laguta was using then as the engine was the same shapre at the Gerhard, any clues, not a Gm he was using.

If you google 'grigory laguta speedway rider' and click on images, there are some pictures of him with an unusual looking engine but it is actually a GM with a different top.

[weatherwatcher]

ok thanks for that

[Sings4Speedway]

Has anyone actually brought one of these now they are on general sale?

[PHILIPRISING]

Has anyone actually brought one of these now they are on general sale?

THEY are not on general sale.

[PHILIPRISING]

ALSO posted this elsewhere ...

 

When Kelvin Tatum first rode a GTR at Prague for pre-SGP social media purposes there was no expectations that GP riders would suddenly jump off their GMs and ride what were and remain relatively unknown engines. But Chris Harris did ask if he could try one in practice, liked it, used it in the meeting and again at King's Lynn for the SWC.

That was how he came to get to try them in the first place.

Previously Kelvin and Marcel had a day's practice at King's Lynn during which they were unexpectedly joined by Robert Lambert who had a few spins himself on a GTR.

Gerhard travelled to Vojens and had GTRs available for Harris, including the one he used at KL, but Chris declined to use it, either in practice or the meeting itself. But subsequently he asked if he could have one for the British Final and Marcel drove from Denmark to Wolverhampton although both he and Kelvin felt the set-up of the ones available were not best suited to Monmore.

Chris then indicated that he would like to have one at Cardiff and again Marcel made the journey from Switzerland with four engines. Lambert had one but Chris, having not told Marcel until he arrived on Friday, said he now intended to use his GMs which he had ridden successfully in England over the previous few days.

Clearly, no other SGP riders were going to change engines at the drop of a hat on the eve of the sport's biggest meeting of the season and Harris was only prepared to change his mind in exchange for a pretty substantial inducement, which GTR were not prepared to pay.

Whether or not Harris would have fared better on a GTR than he did on his GMs can only be a matter of conjecture but having been let down twice, at Vojens and Cardiff, it will be somewhat surprising if they give him another chance.

Lambert has provided some decent feedback and GTR are now working with the vastly experienced Peter Karlsson in helping with the continuing development of the engine.

They (including Kelvin) had also planned to go to Poland for Jarek Hampel to give them a spin but obviously that won't happen now.

[Dave Jones]

I know we have only heard one side of the story, but Bomber's actions sound completely out of order to me.

[FAST GATER]

ALSO posted this elsewhere ...

 

When Kelvin Tatum first rode a GTR at Prague for pre-SGP social media purposes there was no expectations that GP riders would suddenly jump off their GMs and ride what were and remain relatively unknown engines. But Chris Harris did ask if he could try one in practice, liked it, used it in the meeting and again at King's Lynn for the SWC.

That was how he came to get to try them in the first place.

Previously Kelvin and Marcel had a day's practice at King's Lynn during which they were unexpectedly joined by Robert Lambert who had a few spins himself on a GTR.

Gerhard travelled to Vojens and had GTRs available for Harris, including the one he used at KL, but Chris declined to use it, either in practice or the meeting itself. But subsequently he asked if he could have one for the British Final and Marcel drove from Denmark to Wolverhampton although both he and Kelvin felt the set-up of the ones available were not best suited to Monmore.

Chris then indicated that he would like to have one at Cardiff and again Marcel made the journey from Switzerland with four engines. Lambert had one but Chris, having not told Marcel until he arrived on Friday, said he now intended to use his GMs which he had ridden successfully in England over the previous few days.

Clearly, no other SGP riders were going to change engines at the drop of a hat on the eve of the sport's biggest meeting of the season and Harris was only prepared to change his mind in exchange for a pretty substantial inducement, which GTR were not prepared to pay.

Whether or not Harris would have fared better on a GTR than he did on his GMs can only be a matter of conjecture but having been let down twice, at Vojens and Cardiff, it will be somewhat surprising if they give him another chance.

Lambert has provided some decent feedback and GTR are now working with the vastly experienced Peter Karlsson in helping with the continuing development of the engine.

They (including Kelvin) had also planned to go to Poland for Jarek Hampel to give them a spin but obviously that won't happen now.

Thanks Phil for clearing things up

[G the Bee]

Whether or not Harris would have fared better on a GTR than he did on his GMs can only be a matter of conjecture but having been let down twice, at Vojens and Cardiff, it will be somewhat surprising if they give him another chance.

I see where you are coming from, but the final part of your post seems at odds with comments made by GTR themselves and Chris Harris on social media.

https://mobile.twitter.com/gerhardengines/status/617363776388657152

Edited July 8, 2015 by G the Bee

[SC1]

That's quite an accusation on a public forum 😮

 

Harris was only prepared to change his mind in exchange for a pretty substantial inducement, which GTR were not prepared to pay.

 

Edited July 8, 2015 by SC1

[JC!]

That's quite an accusation on a public forum

 

As I put on other thread where this was posted;

 

I assume you have evidence for these comments levelled against Harris....

[G the Bee]

Statement from Chris Harris.

 

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=868988173168646&id=415940791806722

[ASHTECH]

You may have mistaken that there had been an ASH-TECH stamp on the engine case as the manufacture.

It's never been so that ASH-TECH have manufactured a speedway engine, they're just and always have been a GM tuner

My prototype cylinder head and cylinder : https://m.facebook.com/1469737636632481/photos/pb.1469737636632481.-2207520000.1436387111./1469783143294597/?type=1&source=42&ref=bookmarks

[PHILIPRISING]

As I put on other thread where this was posted;

 

I assume you have evidence for these comments levelled against Harris....

YES...

[JC!]

YES...

I have always found Bomber to be very straightforward and honest, I struggle to believe that he would put out a false statement.

[mdmc82]

YES...

Show us the evidence then.

 

You also posted that you would be surprised if Harris gets another chance in these engines. However Gerhard tweeted a message of support to Harris a couple of hours before Cardiff.

Edited July 8, 2015 by mdmc82

[Grand Central]

Chris Harris makes quite a lot of the people speaking out of turn on Social Media.

Are your ears burning Philip?

 

#37 pretty much says that some people are telling porkies.

Especially regarding money and inducements.

 

Perhaps someone could do a Hancock v Pedersen 'tribute' in next weeks comic.

Harris v Risiing.

[PHILIPRISING]

CHRIS is quite entitled to use whatever engines he wants and certainly isn't obligated to use GTRs.

 

However, Gerhard travelled to Vojens specifically so that Chris could use the engine that served him so well at King's Lynn but (fact) he chose not to even practice on it.

Even so Marcel drove from Vojens to Wolverhampton in order that Chris could have a GTR available for the British Final.

 

Gerhard then travelled from Switzerland to Cardiff with engines for Chris, who had indicated that he wanted to at least try one. It was only when he was there (fact) that Chris said he preferred to use his GMs and didn't need the GTRs. Again, that was a choice he was fully entitled to make and was probably understandable given his recent Elite League form but given the time and effort Marcel had made to get them there might he at least not tried one in practice?

[mdmc82]

CHRIS is quite entitled to use whatever engines he wants and certainly isn't obligated to use GTRs.

 

However, Gerhard travelled to Vojens specifically so that Chris could use the engine that served him so well at King's Lynn but (fact) he chose not to even practice on it.

Even so Marcel drove from Vojens to Wolverhampton in order that Chris could have a GTR available for the British Final.

 

Gerhard then travelled from Switzerland to Cardiff with engines for Chris, who had indicated that he wanted to at least try one. It was only when he was there (fact) that Chris said he preferred to use his GMs and didn't need the GTRs. Again, that was a choice he was fully entitled to make and was probably understandable given his recent Elite League form but given the time and effort Marcel had made to get them there might he at least not tried one in practice?

You said you have evidence? Anybody can write the word FACT in a forum post.

Marcel seems fine with him as Gerhard have liked his tweets about coming to do testing for them soon. But different to what you implied in your first post on the matter

Edited July 8, 2015 by mdmc82