jenga Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 been round to Tesco,s and their dummies are free, just got to distract the mothers and tease the kids with a sweet,the kids open their mouths when they see the goods on offer, dummy drops out of kids gob. pick the dummy off the floor and leggggiiitt. going to need an awful lot more for masters when he comes. may have to get some nappies as well .lol. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Barker for a number one has dropped a lot off his starting figure which wasnt assessed, it was a real average from the year before By his standards he has been poor. This isnt a dig as i like him as a rider. To drop from near 9 to 7.5 is a poor figure and anyone who argues otherwise clearly has little knowledge of the sport. An established number one like Ben Barker shouldnt be blaming machinery problems as an excuse for poor form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Barker for a number one has dropped a lot off his starting figure which wasnt assessed, it was a real average from the year before By his standards he has been poor. This isnt a dig as i like him as a rider. To drop from near 9 to 7.5 is a poor figure and anyone who argues otherwise clearly has little knowledge of the sport. An established number one like Ben Barker shouldnt be blaming machinery problems as an excuse for poor form Think you will find the equipment problem is caused by his financial situation, and the inability to find enough cash to dig himself out of the hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Barker for a number one has dropped a lot off his starting figure which wasnt assessed, it was a real average from the year before By his standards he has been poor. This isnt a dig as i like him as a rider. To drop from near 9 to 7.5 is a poor figure and anyone who argues otherwise clearly has little knowledge of the sport. An established number one like Ben Barker shouldnt be blaming machinery problems as an excuse for poor form He did have that early season hand injury as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Barker for a number one has dropped a lot off his starting figure which wasnt assessed, it was a real average from the year before By his standards he has been poor. This isnt a dig as i like him as a rider. To drop from near 9 to 7.5 is a poor figure and anyone who argues otherwise clearly has little knowledge of the sport. An established number one like Ben Barker shouldnt be blaming machinery problems as an excuse for poor form Does riding with a broken hand count? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Does riding with a broken hand count? No, because by doing so he could have been a danger to other riders, a bad management decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 So what is it? A broken hand or dodgy machinery? Seems people are going out of their way to find excuses for him - maybe he should sit out for a month whilst his hand recovers as if he continues to ride as he is his average will look very attractive for another team next season - or maybe even later on this season! He probably isnt averaging much more than Gjedde was for Berwick after two months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythman666 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Difference between Barker and Gjedde is that at least Ben is trying. ...there is absolutely no lack of effort on his part Edited May 27, 2015 by mythman666 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Difference between Barker and Gjedde is that at least Ben is trying. ...there is absolutely no lack of effort on his part He also looks to be recovering by the week. I will take the Number 1 who sticks in paid 17 and turns in Heat 15 Cup winning riders. A few weeks of poor form while recovering from injury is a fair swap for that. If that means have little knowledge of the sport I will live with that. Edited May 27, 2015 by sparkafag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythman666 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 He also looks to be recovering by the week. I will take the Number 1 who sticks in paid 17 and turns in Heat 15 Cup winning riders. A few weeks of poor form while recovering from injury is a fair swap for that. If that means have little knowledge of the sport I will live with that. Absolutely on the money with that post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjcol Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) about time Berwick fans got behind ben barker and helped Berwick win the ko cup Edited May 27, 2015 by cornhillcol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Ben Barker was a risky signing at 9+ which, so far, maybe isn't paying off in the way you would have hoped, but is it not more acceptable to have Ben on an inferior 7.5 average now with the "potential" of having him back higher up the averages later on when the problems, as such, are sorted out? You also take into account that if at the end of this season he is back at 9+, what chance does he have of riding PL next season for anyone, Ben will want to score as many pts as possible for sure, it's his livelihood, but short term gain for long term losses may mean he would more likely be looking for somewhere around the 8pt mark and have a chance of a job next time round than blast out big scores every week and limit his options? Just thinking out loud!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 So what is it? A broken hand or dodgy machinery? Seems people are going out of their way to find excuses for him - maybe he should sit out for a month whilst his hand recovers as if he continues to ride as he is his average will look very attractive for another team next season - or maybe even later on this season! He probably isnt averaging much more than Gjedde was for Berwick after two months As has already been mentioned Barker was injured in early season, and rode in meetings he should never have been allowed to as Berwick would've been better suited going with guests, those meetings with low scores affected his average, as did riding on substandard equipment which has now been sorted out and his scores have improved. Your right in one sense though, Barker may end the season on a lower average than the one he started the season with at Berwick , which will indeed make him an attractive signing for 2016, that team could be Berwick of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 nice way of thinking, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 As has already been mentioned Barker was injured in early season, and rode in meetings he should never have been allowed to as Berwick would've been better suited going with guests, those meetings with low scores affected his average, as did riding on substandard equipment which has now been sorted out and his scores have improved. Your right in one sense though, Barker may end the season on a lower average than the one he started the season with at Berwick , which will indeed make him an attractive signing for 2016, that team could be Berwick of course. I agree he looked to have come back too early, however, it has potentially benefited us as we start to get into the season. The wonders of averages I guess! He also looks to be recovering by the week. I will take the Number 1 who sticks in paid 17 and turns in Heat 15 Cup winning riders. A few weeks of poor form while recovering from injury is a fair swap for that. If that means have little knowledge of the sport I will live with that. Spot on. From someone who was at Ipswich, they said Barker's heat 15 ride was brilliant. That is where it all counts. Oh, he hasn't half put in some spectacular riders at home too. I openly admit to not knowing much about the finer points of the sport, but I am very happy with Barker. He has bust a gut for every point, as he always has done. Great entertainer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodiepatchie Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Difference between Barker and Gjedde is that at least Ben is trying. ...there is absolutely no lack of effort on his partwould barker get the same abuse if he left for another club and upped his average ? been round to Tesco,s and their dummies are free, just got to distract the mothers and tease the kids with a sweet,the kids open their mouths when they see the goods on offer, dummy drops out of kids gob. pick the dummy off the floor and leggggiiitt. going to need an awful lot more for masters when he comes. may have to get some nappies as well .lol. result !!!! Edited May 27, 2015 by Goodiepatchie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I wonder why Ben has gone from an 'automatic' pick for GB (as Crescent Girl took great delight in telling us) to not even making the squad that included the likes of Worral and Howarth? Perhaps he was just too commited to the Bandits to be able to fit it in his diary.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Ben wasn't selected because he's not 100%, did you not know he injured his hand early season? Machinery is top line but Rosco didn't want to take the risk on the "automatic pick" due to injury fair point Tai Woffinden won the World Title ravaged with injury... just a thought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Angus Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 From what I've read, Ben was good enough to pass Tungate and get Bandits through the cup-tie and good enough to pass Howarth and get us the draw on Monday. He's certainly been good enough at home when I have seen him. He'll do for me. Those who don't want him (which is absolute madness) are clearly on the wrong planet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I agree he looked to have come back too early, however, it has potentially benefited us as we start to get into the season. The wonders of averages I guess! Spot on. From someone who was at Ipswich, they said Barker's heat 15 ride was brilliant. That is where it all counts. Oh, he hasn't half put in some spectacular riders at home too. I openly admit to not knowing much about the finer points of the sport, but I am very happy with Barker. He has bust a gut for every point, as he always has done. Great entertainer. Just to say I love these positive posts. I am one of those people who think speedway was better in the past but having looked at some old videos the only difference is that there are bigger crowds and a good atmosphere The racing wasn't much diferent than it is now but we didn't have social media in those days, just a pint in the pub afterwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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