neb Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 what about the head butt masters dished out on bjerre 5 mins later in the pits, that seems to of gone unnoticed. unnecessary,uncalled for behavior that warrants masters to come out and make a public apology,after all this is a family sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 what about the head butt masters dished out on bjerre 5 mins later in the pits, that seems to of gone unnoticed. unnecessary,uncalled for behavior that warrants masters to come out and make a public apology,after all this is a family sport. Might knock some sense into Bjerre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogo1 Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Poor show if all that's been said is true, Bjerre does get up people's noses at times but doesn't everybody, Be interesting to see if Edinburgh discipline the rider as I'm sure all eyes will be watching, Most clubs have had riders who take the law into there own hands at times so glass houses and stones comes to mind, ps hope Bjerre is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Shot yourself in the foot again. How is there "unsubstantiated guff", when in the previous para you admit there was a "Masters irrational outburst". Also the evidence provided by fellow Monarchs as their take on the incident makes you look the fool. Doubt if I could ever match your rantings on here a few years back demanding a long ban for Zetterstom when Christian Henry was injured. You never had the decency to acknowledge that Christian did not consider Magnus had been guilty of the dirty riding you alleged from your viewpoint at the opposite end from where the crash took place. As usual you try and twist things by selectively quoting statements outwith the full context to justify your warped opinions. At your time of life you should take care that the bile you spout forth does not damage your health further. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) Doubt if I could ever match your rantings on here a few years back demanding a long ban for Zetterstom when Christian Henry was injured. You never had the decency to acknowledge that Christian did not consider Magnus had been guilty of the dirty riding you alleged from your viewpoint at the opposite end from where the crash took place. As usual you try and twist things by selectively quoting statements outwith the full context to justify your warped opinions. At your time of life you should take care that the bile you spout forth does not damage your health further. Ah, Bless. Edited May 23, 2015 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 No point in banning Masters for his misdemeanour now, he should have been thrown out of the meeting immediately after the incident as punishment for his actions. However a substantial fine should be imposed to teach him that he can't act like a thug on track or in the pits for that matter. There's no place for this kind of behaviour in this sport, can you imagine the consequences if he decided to get even during a race, I'm just glad he left it until they'd crossed the finish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchlad Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 As I said I like all the comments from people not even there, but it also seems that both riders say, there was no punching it was just handbags and grappling each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 As I said I like all the comments from people not even there, but it also seems that both riders say, there was no punching it was just handbags and grappling each other.Not according to some Edinburgh supporters who WERE THERE and have posted on here! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 As I said I like all the comments from people not even there, but it also seems that both riders say, there was no punching it was just handbags and grappling each other. Only believing what you want to believe. I'll take the word of your fellow supporters who WERE there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 I wasn't there but have an opinion I'm all for a bit of handbags (IMHO there should be more of it as long as it's playacting) as there is little enough entertainment in the sport nowadays but I would never condone anyone hitting a rider who is on the deck, whether lying prostrate, sitting or kneeling. Wait for them to get up and if you calm down before they do wag a few fists to entertain the crowd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young51 Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) Agree an immediate match ban would not have been unjustified. Having also witnessed Garrity's on track assault of Derek Sneddon with his helmet last year, quite rightly there was no clamour for a subsequent ban for that. That Bjerre inflicted the only defeat of the night on Wolbert in his next race would also indicate that no lasting physical damage was done to the Dane by Masters irrational outburst. But predictably, the usual suspects, led by the Whitley Bay Windbag, who is still feeling sore at Monarchs continuing dominance over his beloved Diamonds, weigh in with their nasty, unsubstantiated guff. Indeed Cyclone..the usual suspects always come out to play when the Monarchs 'hit the headlines' Blah blah yada yada..You really must get over yir giant sized chip you seem to have about everything Blue & Gold Tsu..dearo dear. Didnt we always treat you hospitably when you were at Armadale in your former capacity..was your tea cold one night or something? As for the incident..whilst Bjerre Junior is a fine wee rider,this is not the first time that he has had a run-in with an opponent..to my surprise this time it was Sam Masters.. He's one of the nicest people you could ever meet and it must have been something very naughty by Baby Bjerre to cause Sam to lose it.I'm sure Sam feels contrite about what happened last night..he was fined and we should draw a line under..these things happen in the heat..and as i witnessed myself young Bjerre and his scary new beard are doing fine.The ref made his decision and that's fair enough.To all the ' hang him high,disgraceful..it's a family sport' etc etc..i would say have a word with yourself!It was broken up quickly and not allowed to go further.No one was hurt.It's a high octane or should i say methanol fueled sport and supposed to be entertainment after all lol..I remember an old speedway star from 1971 i think of a mass brawl shown in pictures from Belle Vue when Leicester were the opponents.. remembering when i was a kid i used to love that sort of thing haha..i dont think kids have changed that much to be honest,although some of you will have a much harder job remembering when you were a kid but there ya go All in all a decent meeting and Sheffield fought hard.Jason Garrity as always riding on the edge but he was entertaining..the rest of the team had their moments,but the best team won Bring on the quarter final..oh it's Redcar and the mini bearded one..should be a belter eh..know wot i mean 'Arry?Seconds out Edited May 23, 2015 by Young51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Might knock some sense into Bjerre. He should have done it to you as well then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 He should have done it to you as well then.Hide behind your keyboard.Very brave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Stewart Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 A few observations. Move on if you don’t like them. The most common comment on the BSF or Facebook must be that “Edinburgh have got/ will get their way because Alex Harkess is BSPA Chairman”. It has never been justified and never will be. It is simply trotted out thousands and thousands of times without justification, and it marks those who say it as posters who don’t engage their brains. The truth is that Mr Harkess tends to veer in the other direction in order to avoid being seen to favour Edinburgh. Yes Edinburgh have had a lot of success in recent years but that is nothing to do with favouritism. Mr Tsunami (scourge of the BSF) has invented this ogre called Sam Masters who is always angry, whingeing or riding unfairly. It is absolutely laughable and as with a good proportion of Tsunami’s posts, he feigns knowledge where he has none. Anyone who knows Sam (Tsunami obviously doesn’t) knows that he is friendly, cheerful and a great guy to have around. We thought that was 100% of the time but after last night, clearly it’s only 99.9% of the time. Maybe Tsunami should ask Steve Worrall who was Sam’s team mate last year. The Edinburgh posters (the few left who bother with the BSF and also the Facebook ones) always impress me with their fairness, even Blobby though he can be deliberately provocative. Of all the posts I’ve seen there hasn’t been one trying to justify how Sam behaved last night, maybe he’d be disappointed about that but the fact is they are too fair-minded for that. They know he was wrong. But the posters never get credit for being so fair and balanced. I don’t believe you can say that about any other club. Obviously I understand the feelings of the Sheffield fans at Armadale last night after the heat 1 incident last night. If the roles were reversed I’d feel the same. But to then go on and say Edinburgh fans are jealous of Sheffield, or that we are ‘horrible b*stards’, well sorry that is childish tripe. As far as I can see all that the Edinburgh fans have been saying is that they like Sheffield Speedway and sympathise with their bad luck this season. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Perfect post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) A few observations. Move on if you don’t like them. The most common comment on the BSF or Facebook must be that “Edinburgh have got/ will get their way because Alex Harkess is BSPA Chairman”. It has never been justified and never will be. It is simply trotted out thousands and thousands of times without justification, and it marks those who say it as posters who don’t engage their brains. The truth is that Mr Harkess tends to veer in the other direction in order to avoid being seen to favour Edinburgh. Yes Edinburgh have had a lot of success in recent years but that is nothing to do with favouritism. Mr Tsunami (scourge of the BSF) has invented this ogre called Sam Masters who is always angry, whingeing or riding unfairly. It is absolutely laughable and as with a good proportion of Tsunami’s posts, he feigns knowledge where he has none. Anyone who knows Sam (Tsunami obviously doesn’t) knows that he is friendly, cheerful and a great guy to have around. We thought that was 100% of the time but after last night, clearly it’s only 99.9% of the time. Maybe Tsunami should ask Steve Worrall who was Sam’s team mate last year. The Edinburgh posters (the few left who bother with the BSF and also the Facebook ones) always impress me with their fairness, even Blobby though he can be deliberately provocative. Of all the posts I’ve seen there hasn’t been one trying to justify how Sam behaved last night, maybe he’d be disappointed about that but the fact is they are too fair-minded for that. They know he was wrong. But the posters never get credit for being so fair and balanced. I don’t believe you can say that about any other club. Obviously I understand the feelings of the Sheffield fans at Armadale last night after the heat 1 incident last night. If the roles were reversed I’d feel the same. But to then go on and say Edinburgh fans are jealous of Sheffield, or that we are ‘horrible b*stards’, well sorry that is childish tripe. As far as I can see all that the Edinburgh fans have been saying is that they like Sheffield Speedway and sympathise with their bad luck this season. There seems to be plenty of instances mentioned, which would give credibility to that statement. Would that be the Stevie Worrall that Masters had a few words with, after he had been beaten fair and square at our place last week. So no denial that his behaviour was not acceptable and against the rules of fairness in our sport (your own supporters have provided the evidence without being asked for it.) So after agreeing and admitting to Masters disgraceful behaviour, admitting he was guilty, and was fined by the referee as a result, you come back with an assassination on me as if I have stated anything untrue, when the evidence is included in your own fans posts. WOW. Next thing is you will be saying you can only comment if you are a world Champion, like the discussion we had on Cook's attempt to team ride, but then excused yourself of such a restriction. Get owa ya sel. As Midnight Lady has bravely and correctly said, she can't condone any rider hitting an opponent when sitting down or prostrate on the track after an incident, and nor should you. It is/was a cowardly act from a rider with form, and should not be accepted behaviour by anybody whether BSPA, club official or a fan. Indeed Cyclone..the usual suspects always come out to play when the Monarchs 'hit the headlines' Blah blah yada yada..You really must get over yir giant sized chip you seem to have about everything Blue & Gold Tsu..dearo dear. Didnt we always treat you hospitably when you were at Armadale in your former capacity..was your tea cold one night or something? As for the incident..whilst Bjerre Junior is a fine wee rider,this is not the first time that he has had a run-in with an opponent..to my surprise this time it was Sam Masters.. He's one of the nicest people you could ever meet and it must have been something very naughty by Baby Bjerre to cause Sam to lose it.I'm sure Sam feels contrite about what happened last night..he was fined and we should draw a line under..these things happen in the heat..and as i witnessed myself young Bjerre and his scary new beard are doing fine.The ref made his decision and that's fair enough.To all the ' hang him high,disgraceful..it's a family sport' etc etc..i would say have a word with yourself!It was broken up quickly and not allowed to go further.No one was hurt.It's a high octane or should i say methanol fueled sport and supposed to be entertainment after all lol..I remember an old speedway star from 1971 i think of a mass brawl shown in pictures from Belle Vue when Leicester were the opponents.. remembering when i was a kid i used to love that sort of thing haha..i dont think kids have changed that much to be honest,although some of you will have a much harder job remembering when you were a kid but there ya go All in all a decent meeting and Sheffield fought hard.Jason Garrity as always riding on the edge but he was entertaining..the rest of the team had their moments,but the best team won Bring on the quarter final..oh it's Redcar and the mini bearded one..should be a belter eh..know wot i mean 'Arry?Seconds out You really must try and grow up. Obviously your judgement of what went on, seems to be a little jaundiced having supported and defended Ryan Fisher for so long. Edited May 23, 2015 by Tsunami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) A few observations. Move on if you don’t like them. Obviously I understand the feelings of the Sheffield fans at Armadale last night after the heat 1 incident last night. If the roles were reversed I’d feel the same. But to then go on and say Edinburgh fans are jealous of Sheffield, or that we are ‘horrible b*stards’, well sorry that is childish tripe. As far as I can see all that the Edinburgh fans have been saying is that they like Sheffield Speedway and sympathise with their bad luck this season. Sorry if I've missed something here, but where on this thread are the above posts? 'Edinburgh fans jealous of Sheffield', 'you are horrible b*stards', where does it state that from a Sheffield fans post? I always look forward to seeing your fans come down here, a six hundred mile round trip, that's what you call real supporters. Especially those lads that used to wear their kilts! Edited May 23, 2015 by Steve55 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Sorry if I've missed something here, but where on this thread are the above posts? 'Edinburgh fans jealous of Sheffield', 'you are horrible b*stards', where does it state that from a Sheffield fans post? I always look forward to seeing fans come down here, a six hundred mile round trip, that's what you call real supporters. Especially those lads that used to wear their kilts! On their updates page on facebook. If you need cheering up a little you should give it a read some quality stuff on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 On their updates page on facebook. If you need cheering up a little you should give it a read some quality stuff on it. Sorry - don't do Facebook and if that's the sort of rubbish that's on it I never will! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) On their updates page on facebook. If you need cheering up a little you should give it a read some quality stuff on it. Wouldn't disagree if it is there. But, there has been times on BSF where posters (including myself) have crossed referenced with non-BSF forums, etc and have had their knuckles rapped. With hindsight I can see why, and accept I was wrong to do so. Perhaps this was before you joined? But same applies to Al Stewart. If not posted here, it has no relevance to BSF. Edited May 23, 2015 by george.m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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