phillipsr Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 what an utterly pointless thing to get so worked up about!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCookster Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Well the speedway team actually represents Great Britain, not the United Kingdom, so strictly speaking the diagonal red cross should be removed from the Union Flag as that represents Northern Ireland. Blimey! This thread has taken on a very different educational track! Humphrey is absolutely right in what he says here though. Without the Irish element the British flag should, strictly speaking, revert to the Great Union Flag that was developed after King James I (James VI of Scotland) came to the throne. It is a commonly held, but incorrect, belief for people to think that Northern Ireland is part of Great Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 We were England in the 2000 WTC and Team GB in the 2001 WC, so I guess something happened in between! I'll continue calling us England until a Welshman or a Scot forces their way into the squad. Isn't Rosco Welsh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCookster Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Isn't Rosco Welsh? News to me if he is! He is English as far as I am aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Isn't Rosco Welsh? Keith Chegwin is definitely English! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I'll continue calling us England until a Welshman or a Scot forces their way into the squad. I guess you don't call the American team America or USA then? It's just California? And you don't come to the British GP in Cardiff? It's 100% in Wales, it's the Welsh GP. Isn't Rosco Welsh? He has Welsh relatives so possibly. But he was born in Swindon so probably considers himself English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I guess you don't call the American team America or USA then? It's just California? And you don't come to the British GP in Cardiff? It's 100% in Wales, it's the Welsh GP. He has Welsh relatives so possibly. But he was born in Swindon so probably considers himself English. You seem to have all the answers, enlighten me. Why England in 2000 and Great Britain in 2001? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 You seem to have all the answers, enlighten me. Why England in 2000 and Great Britain in 2001? Officially it has always been Great Britain. We have always been able to draw riders from any country which is represented by our ACU at the FIM, Up to the late 70s New Zealand fell into this category and as such were eligible for GB. From 1973, even though they were still eligible, we elected to drop the New Zealanders and use British riders only, to distinguish this change they were then known colloquially as England although still officially as Great Britan. By the late 70 New Zealand became affiliated to the FIM in their own right and were now not eligible anyway. Whether you want to refer to them as England, Manchester or Roscoes select is up to you but they are, and always have been Great Britain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Ok, thanks for the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Ok, thanks for the answer. You are welcome As to Ian's original point whether it should be Great Britain or Team GB, it is totally insignificant. It is a name, no more no less and the subject doesn't warrant the minute of my time this took to type Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 You seem to have all the answers, enlighten me. Why England in 2000 and Great Britain in 2001? They weren't. They were Great Britain in 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 You are welcome As to Ian's original point whether it should be Great Britain or Team GB, it is totally insignificant. It is a name, no more no less and the subject doesn't warrant the minute of my time this took to type So why did you? If my point is if it is such a great waste of time to you - then why Reply? Perhaps to look clever or, for some reason, to slap me down. Judging by the number of Replies on this Thread - there are a fair few Posters who agree with me. Your belittling of the Subject does you no credit. You are also belittling those who have taken the trouble to reply. Insignificant - I don't think so!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 So why did you? If my point is if it is such a great waste of time to you - then why Reply? Perhaps to look clever or, for some reason, to slap me down. Judging by the number of Replies on this Thread - there are a fair few Posters who agree with me. Your belittling of the Subject does you no credit. You are also belittling those who have taken the trouble to reply. Insignificant - I don't think so!!! Well both really!!!! Calm down old timer, I am already on Sidneys hit list, I don't need any more enemies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 For how much longer is our International Speedway Team going to be known by that bloody awful name TeamGB? Talk about stating the bloody obvious: i) It is a Team. ii) It is Great Britain. Why the hell can we not just call our International Team 'GREAT BRITAIN' so that we can have some pride in both the Team and our Country. But PLEASE not the obnoxious TeamGB - it is an abomination!!!!! I would also ask for a big Union Flag on the racejacket - but I have little doubt that would be going too far. http://speedwayplus.com/FreddieWilliams.shtml Link taken from SpeedwayPlus website. Hands off 'TeamGB', i've still got my old hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Well both really!!!! Calm down old timer, I am already on Sidneys hit list, I don't need any more enemies Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 If they don't want to ride for Russia we could put them in,like we did with Schlein Nice one Iris...I knew I could rely on you . Perhaps they have British Great, Great Grandparents making them eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 They weren't. They were Great Britain in 2000. It was definitely England at the last wtc at Coventry, I remember the race suits with the cross of St. George. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I presume you would like the 1984 world pairs champions referred to as Manchester then as thats where the winning team came from. stop being so pedantic, England will do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 It was definitely England at the last wtc at Coventry, I remember the race suits with the cross of St. George. The official records show Great Britain every year. England was never the official team name stop being so pedantic, England will do Why, you want the team named after where the riders came from so why not Manchester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Why, you want the team named after where the riders came from so why not Manchester it's for international events, therefore the COUNTRY they represent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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