cityrebel Posted May 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 It seems the running of last nights british semi final at king's lynn (again!) has upset a few punters. Am I allowed to call this a farce or a fiasco or will I get shot down again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 The real trouble with speedway is that it has lost it,s way. A simple easy to follow sport has become over-complicated. As an aside, I was at Cardiff last year...my first meeting in 30 years. I did not fill in my programme (do they call it a race card now?) as i did not understand it...and this from a life-long fan who used to attend 2/3 meetings a week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) Speedway has lost its true identity. Fans don't relate to their teams, as riders are whizzed up and away to ride for other teams on other nights, even in the same league or different countries. League and team speedway has lost any real interest, many sides now having a feel of a testimonial line-up, rushed together just to serve the latest few speedway folk that can be bothered to put in a show. Right from the first day of the season, one tends to feel most teams are waiting the earliest opportunity to throw points away, weaken, and then set off for a Play-Off slot. Until the Play-Off battles, one tends to believe not all matches are worth winning, as it's possibly best to have some riders off form, dropping averages and then they'll be rewarded by a new team mate, a rider likely to strengthen the side, before the summer sun is past. A true sport is only as worthy as its real ethics, proper racing in speedway case. But now, it seems proper racing is only served in the more important dates, as league speedway is just another mundane office shift for a zero hour intern. Riders should have affinity with the club, so fans can build up a bond with them. Otherwise it won't work, and team speedway will remain on the slide. Every winter we say the same - a rethink and restructure is required. This close season will no doubt be the same. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ That is the main reason I don't go anymore, the Premier League is now a farce. The other reason is the poor presentation, music and unnecessary delays and intervals. Fortunately I can still watch good Swedish League speedway on TV, good tracks, top riders, a squad system, and no double point tacticals. Edited May 21, 2015 by oldtimer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) Speedway has lost its true identity. Fans don't relate to their teams, as riders are whizzed up and away to ride for other teams on other nights, even in the same league or different countries. League and team speedway has lost any real interest, many sides now having a feel of a testimonial line-up, rushed together just to serve the latest few speedway folk that can be bothered to put in a show. Right from the first day of the season, one tends to feel most teams are waiting the earliest opportunity to throw points away, weaken, and then set off for a Play-Off slot. Until the Play-Off battles, one tends to believe not all matches are worth winning, as it's possibly best to have some riders off form, dropping averages and then they'll be rewarded by a new team mate, a rider likely to strengthen the side, before the summer sun is past. A true sport is only as worthy as its real ethics, proper racing in speedway case. But now, it seems proper racing is only served in the more important dates, as league speedway is just another mundane office shift for a zero hour intern. Riders should have affinity with the club, so fans can build up a bond with them. Otherwise it won't work, and team speedway will remain on the slide. Every winter we say the same - a rethink and restructure is required. This close season will no doubt be the same. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ That is the main reason I don't go anymore, the Premier League is now a farce. The other reason is the poor presentation, music and unnecessary delays and intervals. Fortunately I can still watch good Swedish League speedway on TV, good tracks, top riders, a squad system, and no double point tacticals. I've never watched Swedish Speedway. If this is true I may well adopt a Team and follow it in the Swedish League. Definitely worth consideration. Glad you mentioned that oldtimer. Thank you. Edited May 21, 2015 by The White Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 You are thanking the wrong person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) You are thanking the wrong person Oooops!!! - sorry - I will amend that. EDIT: Thanks CHR - Job done. Edited May 21, 2015 by The White Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 It seems the running of last nights british semi final at king's lynn (again!) has upset a few punters. Am I allowed to call this a farce or a fiasco or will I get shot down again! Fairly common place now Tony especially when a weak referee is involved and we can't even blame Watt, Schlein or Batchelor this time. From what has been said last night I think some riders need to re-consider their career options! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I've never watched Swedish Speedway. If this is true I may well adopt a Team and follow it in the Swedish League. Definitely worth consideration. Glad you mentioned that oldtimer. Thank you. It's on Eurosport every Tuesday night. Not really ...the point is in no other sport does the amount of time someone is on tv affect the crowd so why would it in speedway ..as I said just another myth . Orion - you are obviously a horse racing fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 It's on Eurosport every Tuesday night. Orion - you are obviously a horse racing fan? Cheers oldtimer. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 I've never watched Swedish Speedway. If this is true I may well adopt a Team and follow it in the Swedish League. Definitely worth consideration. Glad you mentioned that oldtimer. Thank you. Go for Indianerna, Kumla is a fantastic trace track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) The real trouble with speedway is that it has lost it,s way. A simple easy to follow sport has become over-complicated. As an aside, I was at Cardiff last year...my first meeting in 30 years. I did not fill in my programme (do they call it a race card now?) as i did not understand it...and this from a life-long fan who used to attend 2/3 meetings a week. How has it become over-complicated? 3 pts for a win, 2 for 2nd, 1 for 3rd, 0 for last? What is complicated about it? My 4 year old niece could fill in the Cardiff programme with no problems... Edited May 23, 2015 by BWitcher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 How has it become over-complicated? 3 pts for a win, 2 for 2nd, 1 for 3rd, 0 for last? What is complicated about it? My 4 year old niece could fill in the Cardiff programme with no problems... if you could keep her awake! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 How has it become over-complicated? 3 pts for a win, 2 for 2nd, 1 for 3rd, 0 for last? What is complicated about it? My 4 year old niece could fill in the Cardiff programme with no problems... slightly facetious reply - for one thing its not 321 if its a joker or golden double or some such crap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 How has it become over-complicated? 3 pts for a win, 2 for 2nd, 1 for 3rd, 0 for last? What is complicated about it? My 4 year old niece could fill in the Cardiff programme with no problems... Maybe your 4 year old niece doesn't go round looking for something to find fault with or complain about for the sake of complaining. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Perhaps we can compare things to speedway now and the value for money aspect. We are living in multi-professional times and speedway has been left in the past.. still being run from porto-cabins, a Sunday carboot kind of set-up. You pay £20 or something and expect a decent night, not one in which you have to endure countless waits for re-starts, preparation of the track (which should have been done beforehand), and riders having so many other clubs, they simply cannot summon up that regular heart-on-the-sleeve passion that happened in the past. Speedway does look good, with riders never getting dirty in their expensive helmets and racegear, the bikes that cost an arm and another arm. But the tracks remain back in the day. People will compare speedway to football, but you get a feeling that football is here for good. Speedway is surviving with that ridiculous comb-over many pensioners adopt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 slightly facetious reply - for one thing its not 321 if its a joker or golden double or some such crap Good point - well made. :approve: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Cheers oldtimer. :) Just checked next weeks programmes in TV guide and no Swedish speedway next week listed, seems French Open tennis has got in the way. Hopefully back the following week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Maybe your 4 year old niece doesn't go round looking for something to find fault with or complain about for the sake of complaining. dozens of thousands no longer go - what are we supposed to do - pretend its not happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) dozens of thousands no longer go - what are we supposed to do - pretend its not happening? There is one tac sub now in league racing and using double points once is hardly rocket science compared to other sports ...when crowds were massive speedway had most of the rules it has today . Edited May 23, 2015 by orion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 There is one tac sub now in league racing and using double points once is hardly rocket science compared to other sports ...when crowds were massive speedway had most of the rules it has today . The operative word in your Post is 'most'. Speedway then added some stupid Rules and some people stopped going including me. I wonder if some of the Rule changes has anything to do with falling attendances - I can hear you thinking 'of course not - that's stupid'. I wonder?.................................................... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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