spin king Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 for me there was 2 races that cost us, the race when Lambert (superb debut by the way) got excluded for touching the tapes, the second when Norris past Lambert on the run to the flag, IMHO Norris on another day could of been excluded as he lifted and ran into Lambert causing lambert to broadside a bit slowing him down. Good meeting though and the Aussies did deserve their victory, but a great big well done to our boys who didn't let themselves or us down. Would that be Mick Norris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Great effort and fight from team GB. All the riders gave it their all and that's all we could ask. 👍🏻🇬🇧 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 They all rode well tonight, just Rossiter messed up with the selection for the last 4 heats, he was our weak link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 he is the team manager to use the rule book to his teams advantage, when it counted he was found wanting and made him look amateurish. Does not the rule book say t´hat every rider should do his or hers best to win? I find that a bit contradictory to your claim that he should use the rulebook to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 they don't have careers that last for 40 years Hancock might! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 I'm not convinced it was the wrong selection in the nominated heats. Is it really wise to leave King and Lambert to take the real pressure ride? Better, surely, to out them against riders they have a better chance of beating. As good a performance as could be expected by GB. Australia simply had more strength in depth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient mariner Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Certainly not,just stating what i think. If you want to be charitable you don't have to publicise the fact. I'm sure he made loads of money for charity, well done. As I said before I have changed my views about him due to recent revelations on Twitter and I really don't have any respect for him. Funny you should say that. I did something for charity. I didn't tell anyone what I did and when I did it. Oddly enough I raised not a single penny. Happy now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 I'm not convinced it was the wrong selection in the nominated heats. Is it really wise to leave King and Lambert to take the real pressure ride? Better, surely, to out them against riders they have a better chance of beating. As good a performance as could be expected by GB. Australia simply had more strength in depth. You can go one of two way, try and get the 6 points in the next 2 heats and put pressure on Aus, or hope to cling on for them two heats and then come good. Knowing Danny King can't be trusted in heat 15s at league level (he has a truly abysmal average for heat 15s) I'd have wanted him out sooner personally so he had less pressure on him. So if you're going down that route, you have to go with the strong finish, which Rosco went for. In short, I'd have done the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) I guess it's up for debate if Harris should have lost on purpose so we could have used the joker, not my cup of tea but each to there own . Not sure it matters what order you put the riders in at the end ...the bottom line is that we would have to have won the match up's 3-1 no matter what order ..in thou's last set of races Team Gb could have won the first 3 match up's but we never . Edited June 8, 2015 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 I'd of personally gone: Harris King Woffinden Lambert Harris to get us level, King to have no pressure, Tai to then win, and Lambert again, no pressure, BUT whats happened has happened now, the boys done superb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 I'd of personally gone: Harris King Woffinden Lambert Harris to get us level, King to have no pressure, Tai to then win, and Lambert again, no pressure, BUT whats happened has happened now, the boys done superb. Don't really think it matters which order Rosco picked our riders in.Lemon would have picked accordingly so would have paired the same riders up anyway IMO. Didn't seem to have the same buzz for me this year,maybe because GB never got their noses in front at any point.Heats 9-12 were excellent though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 You can go one of two way, try and get the 6 points in the next 2 heats and put pressure on Aus, or hope to cling on for them two heats and then come good. Knowing Danny King can't be trusted in heat 15s at league level (he has a truly abysmal average for heat 15s) I'd have wanted him out sooner personally so he had less pressure on him. So if you're going down that route, you have to go with the strong finish, which Rosco went for. In short, I'd have done the same. In short, we weren't good enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Great racing, great effort from Team GB all racing hard, so no complaints at all. In theory that four could be our team for several seasons, which bodes well. I don't buy into Rosco choosing wrong, just bad first turns cost us in those last few heats. Only spoiled by that demented fool commentating and calling the scores after each first turn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Fab meeting & good efort from team GB. The 2 outstanding riders fore me was Lambert & Morris, felt Morris rode out of his skin tonight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I know I'll get lambasted for this but wot the 'eck... How on earth is Greg Hancock World Champion..? By no possibe stretch of the imagination is he the best rider in the world - as was shown tonight. The individual World Chasmpionship is desperately flawed when by simply being consistent and safe allows you to challenge for the title.. And indeed win it..! Still a great rider in the scheme of things but miles off being the best.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I know I'll get lambasted for this but wot the 'eck... How on earth is Greg Hancock World Champion..? By no possibe stretch of the imagination is he the best rider in the world - as was shown tonight. The individual World Chasmpionship is desperately flawed when by simply being consistent and safe allows you to challenge for the title.. And indeed win it..! Still a great rider in the scheme of things but miles off being the best.. that's the claim to fame of former world champion Mark Loram was consistent and never won a SGP in his world championship winning season . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonmole Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I know I'll get lambasted for this but wot the 'eck... How on earth is Greg Hancock World Champion..? By no possibe stretch of the imagination is he the best rider in the world - as was shown tonight. The individual World Chasmpionship is desperately flawed when by simply being consistent and safe allows you to challenge for the title.. And indeed win it..! Still a great rider in the scheme of things but miles off being the best.. Let's have a World Champion who is inconsistent and dangerous ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 For me it was a really good meeting, close to the end, with really committed riding. Overall just a good advert. Can't fault the British riders, you got the impression they gave their all, Harris making starts was a personal highlight for me. Certainly no lack of effort. If they are not good enough, they are not good enough, can't help that. The best four riders were chosen, it's not as if there are a deep pool of riders out there who can compete at this level. I would stick with the same four for the race-off. Personally, I would like to see Britain race a couple of Test Matches, just to expose riders like Danny King and Robert Lambert to this sort of competition. Tai and Bomber race in GPs so they are used to it. I can't help but thinking a couple of Test Matches would do the riders a lot of benefit, especially a couple of meeting abroad. I know fine well this is never going to happen, but I honestly think it would be of more benefit to drop two or maybe four Elite League fixtures and fit in four Test Matches instead, If the BSPA did it correctly, they could surely make money out of it. Get TV coverage, promote it like hell so they get a big crowd, even try and get a sponsor, much like Sunbrite back in the day. That money could then be spread out amongst the clubs and fund a World Cup campaign. But the chances of that happening, somewhere between nil and never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 GB did well but not sure if they can make it through the semi. Really pleased for Nick Morris who got better as the meeting went on and did himself proud. Just wish that idiot Pearson would get his facts right before spouting off. Nick did not turn his back on GB and decide to ride for Aus, he wanted to ride for England but was buggered about by the authorities so much and refused the option, so he then decided to ride for Aus. The authorities have shot themselves in the foot again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) GB did well but not sure if they can make it through the semi. Really pleased for Nick Morris who got better as the meeting went on and did himself proud. Just wish that idiot Pearson would get his facts right before spouting off. Nick did not turn his back on GB and decide to ride for Aus, he wanted to ride for England but was buggered about by the authorities so much and refused the option, so he then decided to ride for Aus. The authorities have shot themselves in the foot again. Yes, I noticed that too. He never turned down Britain. Britain turned him down. Wasn't Nick due to enter an under-21 competition as a Brtish rider but, for some reason, not allowed to or something like that? If he'd been given the opportunities he'd be riding as a Brit now and a certain section of Speedway society would be moaning about us having TWO Aussies in the side!! Edited June 9, 2015 by grachan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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