romans lovechild Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 http://www.visalogic.net/pdf/regulations_qualifications.pdf thanks for that arson, but they only cover county cricket and minor counties cricket, not ecb premier and local leagues, im sure the border agencies would have a field day looking at these lower standards of the game. Which is irrelevant to your original post that it does speedways credibility no good. the situation which has arisen with proctor does the sport in general no credibility at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) thanks for that arson, but they only cover county cricket and minor counties cricket, not ecb premier and local leagues, im sure the border agencies would have a field day looking at these lower standards of the game. the situation which has arisen with proctor does the sport in general no credibility at all. These are better http://www.onefacecricket.co.uk/cricket.php?action=visa http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/directives-guidelines/sponsor-license,1664,BP.html If playing in lower leagues you can probably say they are down as studying or visiting and not getting paid officially.... The criteria looks pretty strict imo. Edited May 12, 2015 by Arson fire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romans lovechild Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 BWitcher is not the one who brought it up.Someone said there are loads of them here. BWitcher asked who. It's normally quite reasonable when you make a claim to be able to back it up, not make others disprove you. Other wise you end up looking like someone who make ludicrous claims without any justification of substance to them. you need to get out more and give your keyboard a rest, maybe watch some local cricket and listen to the accents. anybody with an ounce of intuition will know im not going to grass up teams by naming them.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshiretyke Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 It is easy. There is no excuse. I've been having a look.. first one I found, he was 3rd in a 3 man race behind his partner. Next I find him being put in Heat 15 at Somerset when you are 30pts behind causing a further fall in his average. Next I find another 3rd behind Birks with Sam Chapman in 4th who didn't score all night. The pay is no problem. You make your riders aware and pay them for the position they gave up. Unbelievable. People don't think.. they KNOW. It's proven. Stop talking Bo**ocks man!! Proctor was 9th in the whole averages 3 weeks ago, coming off a bad injury last season. Not too bad imo! Whoevers fault it is, in your case the management at Sheffield, maybe it is, maybe it ain't. All I know is the whole situation needs addressing! For Speedway as a whole sake. 95% of a riders time racing is spent in a team which should mean team riding and doing the best for the team. All this promotes now is individuals battling each other in the same side possibly causing unnecessary collisions and potential injury.. Speedway is officially dying on its ass 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Stop talking Bo**ocks man!! Proctor was 9th in the whole averages 3 weeks ago, coming off a bad injury last season. Not too bad imo! Whoevers fault it is, in your case the management at Sheffield, maybe it is, maybe it ain't. All I know is the whole situation needs addressing! For Speedway as a whole sake. 95% of a riders time racing is spent in a team which should mean team riding and doing the best for the team. All this promotes now is individuals battling each other in the same side possibly causing unnecessary collisions and potential injury.. Speedway is officially dying on its ass You do like to contradict yourself don't you. I point out that had Sheffield ridden as a team Proctor would still be in a job. You then claim its bollox and riders should spend more time team riding and doing what is best for the team.. So tell me, was Proctor losing his job best for the team? you need to get out more and give your keyboard a rest, maybe watch some local cricket and listen to the accents. anybody with an ounce of intuition will know im not going to grass up teams by naming them.. Yep, they're earning a fortune no doubt depriving others of earning a living playing in local cricket leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshiretyke Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 You do like to contradict yourself don't you. I point out that had Sheffield ridden as a team Proctor would still be in a job. You then claim its bollox and riders should spend more time team riding and doing what is best for the team.. So tell me, was Proctor losing his job best for the team? You tell me does a rider lose out on money to aid another rider? It's the system about bonus points that's bollox, they should count towards the average end of!! That way you don't get in team fighting for position. If that means upping the required limit for Visa then so be it. Whichever way Sheffield aren't the only ones that are gonna suffer from all this!! At some point most teams and Aussie riders will suffer among others. Yep, they're earning a fortune no doubt depriving others of earning a living playing in local cricket leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SAINT Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) this news broke yesterday,the rider was blocked from riding last night ... still not reported on BSPA website - seems strange ??????????????????????? Edited May 13, 2015 by The SAINT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Blue Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 this news broke yesterday,the rider was blocked from riding last night ... still not reported on BSPA website - seems strange ??????????????????????? Hold on ... BSPA not telling us anything ...... Nope cant see what seems strange about that 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Hold on ... BSPA not telling us anything ...... Nope cant see what seems strange about that Mushrooms and Bullsh#t spring to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 What's it got to do with the BSPA? Oh...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 My apologies if this has been asked before but, if an Antipodean rider has to have/achieve/maintain a 7pt average to race in the UK does the same principal apply to a 5pt European rider? Does the system operate in the same fashion or do the EU Immigration rules forbid that under free movement of people/services, just curious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackadder Posted May 14, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 A rather moving article in this week's SS, stating that Ty was told on Tuesday not to ride at Glasgow, and to be out of the country by midnight. It's a pity that the Government isn't as harsh when it comes to the many undesirables being allowed to stay and scrounge or commit crimes repeatedly. Gutted for Ty, who doesn't deserve this. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonian Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Abit late to this topic and sorry if this has been brought up in recent posts. But I did find it strange that some non-EU riders could still ride even though there averages were below 7. Think Proctor is about 6.48? At the start of the season a few people mentioned about Ty seemed to be over riding and trying to hard at times when he was out the back or in 3rd... I wonder if this was the reason for it? Seeing Proctor also racing at 4 seemed strange to me when the season started, when I believe Birks averages is lower, yet he's riding at 3. Guess the promotion hoped Proctor not taking a heat leader role would give him more chance to gain his over 7 average. Seems to all add up now. Really gutted for Ty though who's had some awful luck over the last few years and you can see he enjoys being at Sheffield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SAINT Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 A rather moving article in this week's SS, stating that Ty was told on Tuesday not to ride at Glasgow, and to be out of the country by midnight. It's a pity that the Government isn't as harsh when it comes to the many undesirables being allowed to stay and scrounge or commit crimes repeatedly. Gutted for Ty, who doesn't deserve this. makes yer blood boil !!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr pretty big/earthshattering news in speedway terms - yet the bspa website 'news' section doesn't mention it ............. VERY STRANGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graz gp Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Typical BSPA. Why don't they come out and give us their take on the visa situation. Ty Proctor's average on the green sheet averages on the 6th of May was 6.44, So he did not get the 7 he needed or have i missed something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Typical BSPA. Why don't they come out and give us their take on the visa situation. Ty Proctor's average on the green sheet averages on the 6th of May was 6.44, So he did not get the 7 he needed or have i missed something. On the contrary, I think it is up to Sheffield to put the story out, as they were his employers, and his sponsor for the visa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) On the contrary, I think it is up to Sheffield to put the story out, as they were his employers, and his sponsor for the visa. Totally agree, I see Sheffield are saying "senior officials" at BSPA told them he would be OK! Looks like they haven't learned that it's not the BSPA who are calling the shots in this matter, they should be speaking and getting confirmation from senior officials at UKVI ! Edited May 14, 2015 by northyorksbear 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Totally agree, I see Sheffield are saying "senior officials" at BSPA told them he would be OK! Looks like they haven't learned that it's not the BSPA who are calling the shots in this matter, they should be speaking and getting confirmation from senior officials at UKVI ! Quite agree. If it was all down to the BSPA, why did other promotions also attend the visa training days. It's all down to the promotion adhering to the visa conditions, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Just seen that Matt Wethers HAS FINALLY GOT his visa to race!! in the uk.Anyone know the problems he had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graz gp Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 So the Sheffield promotion needs to explain what went wrong then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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