Arson fire Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Says he who can't cause enough bother on his own teams thread. He was, but he changed his line to block Ludde who was at full pelt around Masters. What was Ludde to do, it he shut off or kept it on, he was still going to have to go into the fence to avoid a direct hit on Masters. i didnt think that, but its all about opinion.... Ludde did similar v cook in heat 4....and to a lesser extent Worrall later on. Anyone in front of lindgren just has to be brave enough to ride the boards as he only knows one way round, he reminds me a bit of Lee Complin around brough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Certainly thought there was a good case of Masters giving Ludde no where to go and being excluded for it. Master from past experience must the biggest winger in British Speedway, always moaning and even had a go at Steve when Steve did nothing wrong to keep him at bay in heat 5. Same guy then rides straight across Ludde's line and puts him in the fence. He wasn't moaning then. Kerr's 'off' on the third bend curve was his own fault, he could't get though and spun. a wondered what Master's was doing after Worrall had beat him, did look as if he was bleeting on about something,,, maybe Lindgren shouldn't have tried to pass Master's, and could have just tootled around behind him,,, Kerr could've got thru, but would've maybe have had to give Sam a little nudge in doing so :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 a wondered what Master's was doing after Worrall had beat him, did look as if he was bleeting on about something,,, maybe Lindgren shouldn't have tried to pass Master's, and could have just tootled around behind him,,, Kerr could've got thru, but would've maybe have had to give Sam a little nudge in doing so :-) He's always bleating about something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 He's always bleating about something. he does come over like that,,, good rider and team man tho :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 At least they all got up and walked away. Anyone know if Lewi Kerr is okay. Seemed as if he tried to get up and clear the track and then experienced leg pain! Was he left out of heat 15 on tactical or health issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchopper Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Cookie and 2 minutes, Newcastle fans getting desperate here. Sam is a hard rider and ran a hard line, not dirty and definitely legal. He was in the lead and drifted wide to block the outside line, Lindgren had to pull out of the move or cut back. If this was some kind of illegal block it was nothing compared to when Kerr locked up in front of Max clegg, I see that never appeared in the complaints about the ref. A great performance from the monarchs with all 7 contributing key points the heat 2 5-1 was key to the win. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 He's always bleating about something. Aye just like you, rather than give any credit to the visiting team when they happen to plunder the points at Brough Park Credit to AoF for giving an honest, impartial account of events which corresponded to my own view of the incidents Praise to Stevie Worrall who rode immaculately tonight and was by far, the best rider on display. Based his performances this evening and last Friday at Armadale, he should certainly have been included in the initial GB squad for the WTC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrP Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Didn't think Masters done anything wrong either. Always gonna struggle when operating R/R and then 1 or 2 have an off night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Not really sure on how the rules work, with regards to leaving enough room,,, Sam was ahead a the time and maybe didn't leave Lindgren any room on the outside, but left him plenty on the inside,,, I don't think there was any contact, so, in the rules, what did he do wrong ???,,, on the other hand, there may have been contact entering bend 1, so if Lindgren had of came down then, there may have been more of a claim,,, was hoping Newcastle would win, but think heat 2 paved the way for the Monarch's success,,, wouldn't be pressing the panic button yet,,, covering Anton with r/r should have worked,,, but losing Simon aswell, meant we couldn't afford any 'off nights' from anyone else,,, and let's be honest, up at Berwick, not many would think Rafal, would've out scored two of the lads that where taking Anton's rides ??? (I'd put him against anyone in a race south down the A1),,, ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Aye just like you, rather than give any credit to the visiting team when they happen to plunder the points at Brough Park Credit to AoF for giving an honest, impartial account of events which corresponded to my own view of the incidents Praise to Stevie Worrall who rode immaculately tonight and was by far, the best rider on display. Based his performances this evening and last Friday at Armadale, he should certainly have been included in the initial GB squad for the WTC. Mr Arrogance strikes again. As AoF also says, 'it's all a matter of opinion'. Get owa ya sel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Enjoyed last night despite the scoreline. Some good racing and Newcastle could have won had the real Christian Henry turned up. Kerr's fall was certainly his own fault. With Lindgren, it did look like Masters squeezed him a bit too hard without actually pushing him off. Seen them given either way and not going to complain too much about it. It's a tough sport and thank goodness for air fences. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Enjoyed last night despite the scoreline. Some good racing and Newcastle could have won had the real Christian Henry turned up. Kerr's fall was certainly his own fault. With Lindgren, it did look like Masters squeezed him a bit too hard without actually pushing him off. Seen them given either way and not going to complain too much about it. It's a tough sport and thank goodness for air fences. on the Kerr incident,,, isn't there a claim that Master's took his line also ??? I know we don't talk, or get to see much 'team riding' (apparently),,, but on the odd occasion we do and, we hear about 'how good' he was at blocking every move, could that not be the same as not giving him any room ??? ;-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Mr Arrogance strikes again. As AoF also says, 'it's all a matter of opinion'. Get owa ya sel That's rich coming from the knowall Whitley Bay Windbag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond@heart Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I enjoyed the match as always when the Monarchs come a calling to Brough. Good hard match with some good hard racing. I do think the ref spoilt the match with the exclusion of Ludde as I think Masters did not leave him enough racing room and in my opinion was the cause of Ludde hitting the deck. On the point of people saying Masters was in front, does this pic assuming it is the one taken before the incident not prove that it was Ludde just in front going into the corner??? http://www.newcastlediamonds.co/news/article.asp?id=100398 I think S Worrall is in outstanding form at the moment (both Elite and Premier) and great to watch and as people have said, if the real Christian Henry had turned up we may have gotten something, the same could be said re: his performance the night before at Berwick. Great to see Rose back in amongst the points and looking like he is getting back to his best around Brough. Think it is shocking that S Worrall has not been called into the GP squad when he is in better form than some of the riders picked. Congrats to the Monarch on a great meeting and win but think the result might have been different had the ref made the correct call in my opinion, but thats my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 That's rich coming from the knowall Whitley Bay Windbag Better to know all, than f**k all. Now go away and be childish, like in the junior section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Better to know all, than f**k all. Now go away and be childish, like in the junior section. Dave, have you been drinking ???,,, or is this just a clash of personalities :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I enjoyed the match as always when the Monarchs come a calling to Brough. Good hard match with some good hard racing. I do think the ref spoilt the match with the exclusion of Ludde as I think Masters did not leave him enough racing room and in my opinion was the cause of Ludde hitting the deck. On the point of people saying Masters was in front, does this pic assuming it is the one taken before the incident not prove that it was Ludde just in front going into the corner??? http://www.newcastlediamonds.co/news/article.asp?id=100398 I think S Worrall is in outstanding form at the moment (both Elite and Premier) and great to watch and as people have said, if the real Christian Henry had turned up we may have gotten something, the same could be said re: his performance the night before at Berwick. Great to see Rose back in amongst the points and looking like he is getting back to his best around Brough. Think it is shocking that S Worrall has not been called into the GP squad when he is in better form than some of the riders picked. Congrats to the Monarch on a great meeting and win but think the result might have been different had the ref made the correct call in my opinion, but thats my opinion. That's a bit strong, taking in to consideration the ref's performance the other week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucks Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 That's a bit strong, taking in to consideration the ref's performance the other week. spill the beans, wot was the refs performance like the other weak or strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond@heart Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) That's a bit strong, taking in to consideration the ref's performance the other week. Not really, the match was close and heading for a really close finish. The Ludde exclusion gave the advantage to the Monarchs and they never looked back. Prior to the exclusion Edinburgh had a 2 point lead, they then gained another 4 after the exclusion which is the amount they won by as the remaining 4 heats were tied 12-12. Therefore, had LL not been excluded I would like to think we may have just pinched the win, but that's just my opinion!! Edited May 19, 2015 by diamond@heart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Not really, the match was close and heading for a really close finish. The Ludde exclusion gave the advantage to the Monarchs and they never looked back. Prior to the exclusion Edinburgh had a 2 point lead, they then gained another 4 after the exclusion which is the amount they won by as the remaining 4 heats were tied 12-12. Therefore, had LL not been excluded I would like to think we may have just pinched the win, but that's just my opinion!! Sadly - we'll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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