Hamster00 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Sounds like a good meeting last night and a solid win albeit against one of the weaker teams in the league. Richard Hall seems to have settled in nicely. I also still have a question mark next to Hyneks name although I didn't see him ride last night every time I have seen him so far he has looked uncomfortable and slow on the bike but time will tell. Edited May 17, 2015 by Hamster00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Good result and performance from the whole team, Some people saying that Newcastle are not that strong and not to read too much into last night, not so for me, you can only beat whats put in front of you and their poor team management / building should not take away from the decisive action that Berwick have now taken to put together a solid 1-7. A lot of teams would have benifitted from Richard Hall at number 7, thankfully we got in first. Optimistic for the rest of the season and it will take a good team to beat us at home now. I agree, the management have made swift and decisive changes which has ensured our league campaign has got off to a good start. Two vital home wins, and, I'm sure, a few away wins too. No reason why we can't match our finish last season, or even better. I just wish some of the people who continually knock Berwick Speedway on here would stop running away and hiding when we have good, entertaining meeting. They need to grow a pair of knackers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I agree, the management have made swift and decisive changes which has ensured our league campaign has got off to a good start. Two vital home wins, and, I'm sure, a few away wins too. No reason why we can't match our finish last season, or even better. I just wish some of the people who continually knock Berwick Speedway on here would stop running away and hiding when we have good, entertaining meeting. They need to grow a pair of knackers! Complete BS again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodiepatchie Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Complete BS again yes Robin you don't need to grow any 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Just got laptop working again like to agree as mentioned earlier the track seemed much more suitable for passing last night well done to all the Bandits last night. Like to mention Kanopka started the meeting really well but faded later,know what youre getting from Worrall and Kerr Lindgren taking the huff with Claus in heat 13 at the gate,very poor from Henry and Rose.Good to see Ben had no ill effects from his chain snapping onwards and upwards, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Complete BS again Incomplete BS, yet again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Johnston1 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Enjoyable meeting last night with track conditions producing better racing.Good to see Alex riding with a bit more confidence also Richard Hall looking sharper. Top 4 done what we expect of them whilst Hynek can't be faulted for lack of effort.Disappointing crowd for a local derby didn't appear to be a lot of diamonds fans in attendance hopefully crowds will pick up when the warmer weather comes. Good Berwick team performance last night. People on about Christian Henry but wonder if he got hurt in his first race when he fell off? Think there was more Edinburgh fans last night compared to Newcastle fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Good Berwick team performance last night. People on about Christian Henry but wonder if he got hurt in his first race when he fell off? Think there was more Edinburgh fans last night compared to Newcastle fans. website says his clutch was buggered... And i heard he only has one bike?? Dont know if thats true or not though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 What is it you want/need from Hynek? Three home meetings, he's had paid six, paid five and paid six, and beaten an opponent in at least 75% of his races. When you sign a guy with a 4.56 average, if you're expecting maximums, it isn't that likely. What you want is a solid-as-a-rock rider at No 2, who gets a score like he's been delivering every meeting.One thing that will be hurting him financially would be that he's scoring so many third-place bonus points, which Premier League promotions don't pay for. Maybe some sponsorship would ease his burden?Who pays Claus for team riding Alex last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 What is it you want/need from Hynek? Three home meetings, he's had paid six, paid five and paid six, and beaten an opponent in at least 75% of his races. When you sign a guy with a 4.56 average, if you're expecting maximums, it isn't that likely. What you want is a solid-as-a-rock rider at No 2, who gets a score like he's been delivering every meeting. One thing that will be hurting him financially would be that he's scoring so many third-place bonus points, which Premier League promotions don't pay for. Maybe some sponsorship would ease his burden? What about his performance on Fri night ? How many opponents did he beat there ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 I've come to the conclusion that there is a certain poster who purports to be a Berwick fan. Usually a regular on Berwick threads, but nowhere to be seen (except almost every other PL thread) when we get a very good meeting. Not a peep after a great meeting on Saturday. Silence is golden! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) What is it you want/need from Hynek? Three home meetings, he's had paid six, paid five and paid six, and beaten an opponent in at least 75% of his races. When you sign a guy with a 4.56 average, if you're expecting maximums, it isn't that likely. What you want is a solid-as-a-rock rider at No 2, who gets a score like he's been delivering every meeting. One thing that will be hurting him financially would be that he's scoring so many third-place bonus points, which Premier League promotions don't pay for. Maybe some sponsorship would ease his burden? Not strictly true, as Berwick do not pay the bonus point on a 3--3, so on paper Hynek was 4 + 2 he would have only been paid for 4 points. Who pays Claus for team riding Alex last night? He was on a 5 --1.., so eill be paid his bonus point, its the 3--3 that causes the problem On a brighter point I enjoyed the meeting on Sat great improvement in the track, just hope it is maintained, Really nice to see some team riding and some overtaking, see the difference it makes when track is prepared to race on. On a downside, I expected a better performance from Newcastle, poor showing On Sat Edited May 18, 2015 by TOURETTES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Really nice to see some team riding and some overtaking, see the difference it makes when track is prepared to race on. On a downside, I expected a better performance from Newcastle, poor showing On Sat The way Claus team rode behind Alex was a joy to watch, poetry in motion! With regard to Newcastle I would seriously question both their team building and team management over the past two seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) The way Claus team rode behind Alex was a joy to watch, poetry in motion! With regard to Newcastle I would seriously question both their team building and team management over the past two seasons. Like Berwick Newcastle have financial problems, and have built a team structure around their budget. When your expedeture outstrips your income time to worry. On Vissing, great to see some team riding like having Adrian back, wonder what Claus would have done if they were on a 3--3. with no bonus point being paid. Edited May 18, 2015 by TOURETTES 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Good result and performance from the whole team, Some people saying that Newcastle are not that strong and not to read too much into last night, not so for me, you can only beat whats put in front of you and their poor team management / building should not take away from the decisive action that Berwick have now taken to put together a solid 1-7. A lot of teams would have benifitted from Richard Hall at number 7, thankfully we got in first. Optimistic for the rest of the season and it will take a good team to beat us at home now. Hall doesn’t even have to be the rider he once was (though if he could approach that form when he was a decent 7.00 man that would be fantastic). If he is a 5.00 man he will make a massive difference to Berwick’s season, he is, as you say, an addition that would have helped a lot of teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 The way Claus team rode behind Alex was a joy to watch, poetry in motion! With regard to Newcastle I would seriously question both their team building and team management over the past two seasons. sh!te bait biged... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 I think Scott the plan was to bring in Robert Lambert as well as Daniel King. Think he could have very well improved Newcastle's fortunes in say the Number 2 position, leaving Rose/Mills at reserve And probably the team would have knocked in a few more points as happened with ourselves via Rempala back in 2010 . This season, they have said they are running to a budget. They started very slowly in 2009 and finished the season in outstanding form We also beat them in the TTT back in 2012 only for them to romp to the domestic league the very same season I wouldn't right off Newcastle just yet. After all your illustrious promoter rated Newcastle very highly pre season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Hall doesn’t even have to be the rider he once was (though if he could approach that form when he was a decent 7.00 man that would be fantastic). If he is a 5.00 man he will make a massive difference to Berwick’s season, he is, as you say, an addition that would have helped a lot of teams. I expect there were other teams that would have been after him too, very good addition. Like you say, if he gets anywhere near his top form, then it would be amazing. He was great to watch on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Stewart Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Like Berwick Newcastle have financial problems, and have built a team structure around their budget. When your expedeture outstrips your income time to worry. That is absolutely fair comment, the only problem with it is that you don't know what your income will be. Putting out a less expensive team might well lead to lower crowds and the whole thing turns into a downward spiral. If they were really being realistic, teams should probably budget for a 10% reduction in crowds each year, that seems to be what is happening at most places. But then that's that downward spiral again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 That is absolutely fair comment, the only problem with it is that you don't know what your income will be. Putting out a less expensive team might well lead to lower crowds and the whole thing turns into a downward spiral. If they were really being realistic, teams should probably budget for a 10% reduction in crowds each year, that seems to be what is happening at most places. But then that's that downward spiral again. Sadly it is, a few years ago they introduced a wage structure and a pay maximum, the team that shouted the most for it's introduction was the first team to break the rule, that was Glasgow. For the sake of speedway at large perhaps it should be looked at again, and at the same time look at at getting the running costs down for the riders. The last couple of years the emphasis has been on getting the promoters costs down, but not the riders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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