Paulco Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 When did this come to light , it's been on the fixture list since January . So we've bought our train tickets online and booked our hotel , there's no other sport that treats it's fans as badly as speedway does 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 When did this come to light , it's been on the fixture list since January . So we've bought our train tickets online and booked our hotel , there's no other sport that treats it's fans as badly as speedway does Yesterday afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Yesterday afternoon. Pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 When did this come to light , it's been on the fixture list since January . So we've bought our train tickets online and booked our hotel , there's no other sport that treats it's fans as badly as speedway doesYour right,it's unbelievable and they will just say it's nobody's fault on the Speedway side of things.Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) why dont you look at the open fixtures for the tigers/panthers riders and see who will be missing when the date is chosen . maybe its because that the tigers could be missing a rider or two and are at a disadvantage in the rearranged fixture. ... well thought out........................ if the track was so iffy, why was it run last night ? peterborough always have a good racing surface, but last night was an exception. still too good for worky though with our sh/t reserves... Edited May 11, 2015 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme624 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Angry and livid beyond belief - what an absolute insult from Peterborough to Glasgow supporters . I personally have flights booked to Stansted Fri return Sat. Also return train Stansted to Peterborough and then my hotel. This is just completely unacceptable and unfortunately sets a very dangerous precedent of calling off fixtures at short notice and it going unpunished .How can a Fixture List ever be trusted now for planning away trips As a club whose promotion has willingly let you use Richard Lawson on numerous occasions already as a guest this season it leaves a very ,very sour taste indeed. I know Paulco exactly how you feel !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerite Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) There's no other sport that treats it's fans as badly as speedway doesSad but true mate, supporters are always the last ones considered when decisions are made in speedway, then promoters moan when there are no crowds. Edited May 11, 2015 by Tigerite 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 This is a shame for all the reasons given but also from a panthers point of view another unwanted break in the middle of a good run of form. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Cancelled my hotel and I can still use my train tickets from Ipswich to Peterborough and just head up to Scunthorpe from there . Scunthorpe v Rye House wasn't the meeting I wanted to see on Friday , but it's on my way home and better than kicking my heels in Peterborough . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Could always head over to Kings lynn see kings lynn v Stoke in the NL Edited May 11, 2015 by mac101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 East of England Showground owners should be made to foot the bill for all the Glasgow fans who have paid out there hard earned money for travel arrangements, its disgusting the way these morons show no contempt for treating people in this way , they agreed to the fixture taking place & its them that have called it off they should suffer the financial costs, think the Panthers management should of at least of tried to fight the Glasgow fans corner on this but it seems they just dont care either 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Feel very sorry for the Glasgow fans who had made plans to be there. I'm also wondering what will happen to the fixture due on July 12th against Scunthorpe and whether this will be called off nearer the date being as there will be dogs all over the place. Just Dogs Live is at The Showground on Friday, Saturday and Sunday and I'm hoping to attend on the Sunday so I don't have to make two journeys on consecutive days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 This day and age there is just no logic in planning a long haul trip to a speedway meeting...Even if it hadn't been the for the ineptness of the showground management the weather may have misbehaved - and curtailed events anyhow... Just too much of a risk with the associated costs involved 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowasthatberntpersson Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Total disregard to the many fans who plan ahead and book hotels etc. People will have lost money here, not to mention time off work etc etc. I can't accept any excuses other than weather related postponements when fixtures have been publicised. Not happy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Feel very sorry for the Glasgow fans who had made plans to be there. I'm also wondering what will happen to the fixture due on July 12th against Scunthorpe and whether this will be called off nearer the date being as there will be dogs all over the place. Just Dogs Live is at The Showground on Friday, Saturday and Sunday and I'm hoping to attend on the Sunday so I don't have to make two journeys on consecutive days. We could have dog racing between heats. Get 4 dogs at tapes with red, blue, white & yellow coats and tie a bunny (not a real one) to the back of a bike. We could have a one lap doggy track record. Anything's better than the invisible roving mic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Cancelled my hotel and I can still use my train tickets from Ipswich to Peterborough and just head up to Scunthorpe from there . Scunthorpe v Rye House wasn't the meeting I wanted to see on Friday , but it's on my way home and better than kicking my heels in Peterborough . It's been good racing every meeting so far this year mate... hope you see a good meeting, even if I appreciate you'd have much preferred to see the Glasgow Tigers in action. I won't be there, first Scorpions' meeting I've missed this year, as I'm going to Finland/Russia this weekend to maybe watch some speedway or maybe another rider protest, we'll see. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PE7Panther Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) in reply to all the people who are having a pop at Peterborough Panthers for the postponement: It's not the club's fault. It wasn't their doing. Everybody here - management, riders, fans - would be happier if it was still on. You need to understand, as a couple of people have tried to explain in this thread, that Panthers are merely a tenant at the EoES - now called the Peterborough Arena although we still tend to refer to it as "The Showground". It's been a big problem for Panthers in recent years, ever since the ownership/management of the EoES/PA changed a few years back. Basically speedway is just a relatively minor, albeit regular, event in the EoES/PA calendar. Us fans don't know the details of the deal between the club and the EoES/PA but what we DO know is that the power lies with them and not with the club. Yes, this home meeting v Glasgow was arranged ages ago for the Friday, but at that stage the date was included in the list of dates given the OK by the EoES/PA as being available. There's also a big event this weekend, on the Sat & Sun (MCN Festival of Motorcycling) but back then it didn't create a clash with a home meeting for Panthers. Then a few days ago something changed. Apparently it's something to do with access for setting up the event with be affected by the speedway meeting, and/or they didn't want a thousand or so speedway fans wandering freely around their stuff, and/or it was deemed to be a H&S issue. So Panthers were told they could no longer have a meeting on this Friday after all, and the meeting was therefore postponed. Yes, they could AND should have thought about all this sooner. And yes, maybe they shouldn't have told Panthers that this date was available. I don't know, maybe the EoES/PA didn't bother to tell MCN that Panthers would be having a meeting on the Friday evening. A classic case of poor communication and lack of foresight? Panthers can't be blamed because if they're told the track is available they're right to use it. Heaven knows it's difficult enough to fit in the home fixtures anyway given the relatively limited number of dates they get given when the track is available. It's galling for everybody - especially Glasgow fans who have already made travel/hotel plans. And we all sympathise because nobody like to waste money! But the finger of blame cannot be pointed at Panthers. By the way, surely any speedway fan who makes plans for an away meeting well in advance knows very well that meetings can, and do, get postponed and rearranged. It happens often, and for a variety of reasons - the main one being the weather. It's not difficult to pre-book hotels where the booking policy is pay upon arrival, and you can cancel up to 24 hours before the day. If anybody has booked a hotel and pre-paid with no cancellation/refund, then frankly they have only themselves to blame. Similarly, I'm fairly sure that you can get a refund for unused train tickets - albeit less a £10 admin charge. Edited May 14, 2015 by PE7Panther 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) every one needs to get their paperwork together and put it to judge rinder. no fantasy hotels and stuff , just proper paperwork showing dates, hotels and any other relevant paperwork that will be required in a court of law. if you do it , it will be to the benefit of all. until then its all fantasy. i can understand meetings getting cancelled for rain etc. but when its unavailable when its in the fixtures . its down to p/borough to look forward into the availability of the race track WELL IN ADVANCE of poss meeting/venue clashes. panthers fault whether you like it or not. management should have looked properly at all aspects of the fixture list.. Edited May 14, 2015 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PE7Panther Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) every one needs to get their paperwork together and put it to judge rinder. no fantasy hotels and stuff , just proper paperwork showing dates, hotels and any other relevant paperwork that will be required in a court of law. if you do it , it will be to the benefit of all. until then its all fantasy. i can understand meetings getting cancelled for rain etc. but when its unavailable when its in the fixtures . its down to p/borough to look forward into the availability of the race track WELL IN ADVANCE of poss meeting/venue clashes. panthers fault whether you like it or not. management should have looked properly at all aspects of the fixture list.. I'm sure you're not a person of low intelligence, and I'm also sure that your post is simply due to not having read or grasped the facts rather than pure stupidity on your part. I urge you to pay better attention so that you stop sounding like a complete numpty! Firstly, try to grasp this: Panthers certainly did check into the availability "WELL IN ADVANCE". This weekend's MCN Festival of Speedway (set for Sat & Sun) was not deemed to be a clash when the available dates were discussed pre-season. Otherwise not only would Panthers not have had a meeting fixed for Friday 15 May, the EoES/ PA wouldn't have allowed it. We've had umpteen meetings on Fridays (and Thurdays) ahead of big weekend events, and the speedway has gone ahead as planned. Sometimes we've had to use the open fields to park cars instead of the proper car park, and a different entrance, but that's not really been a problem. What happened this week is that the 'other' event raised objections very late in the day. And Panthers had no say in it. The EoES/PA were within their rights - whether we like it or not - to tell Panthers they couldn't have use of the facility this Friday after all. And that's despite the fact that they had included it previously in the list of available dates they had given to Panthers. That's another thing you seem unable to grasp. Are you seriously suggesting that Panthers should have looked at the dates the EoES/PA gave them months ago, and then they (Panthers) should have also looked at the list of other events in the EoES/PA calendar, and that Panthers should have avoided any Fridays where there is also an event on at the weekend - "just in case"? Jeezus mate, if they did that we'd be left with very few home meetings at all. As for your quasi-legal bletherings suggesting that people with hotel/train bookings should go down the litigation route, it's totally ludicrous. Speaking as a forumite with 30 years legal experience, I can assure you that the only "court of law' it would get anywhere near is in your dreams! Edited May 15, 2015 by PE7Panther 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) in a round about way i was trying to stop Glasgow fans crying out as if they were missing Christmas . i know its difficult to organise days and times to suit every one , more so when you are ground sharing with landlords who have annual festivals/shows. i have no doubt there would have been a few Glasgow fans travelling down, but also a lot of keyboard warriors (like myself ) wanting their two quids worth of blood because they think its a ploy to not race p/borough on that. maybe some riders could be missing. one poster sticks out and sounded the battle drum as if they were really hard done by. the court thing was too see just how many people would think about taking that route. its ok coming on here and threatening to do things, but it takes lot more guts to do it. so that's my take on things and as some one pointed out to me. its a forum and i choose what and where to post at my leisure at any time. so that's my reply. not an offensive one, but a general take on things... cheers .. . Edited May 15, 2015 by jenga 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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