Swindon - Belle Vue 7.5.15

[mdmc82]

It's going to be a tough call for Killer to stay longer as I'm sure his schedule is going to be as hectic as it was when he turned down the slot originally.

 

I hope he stays as it's the only way we'll get in the play offs.

He only has the Swindon fixtures up until 1st June on the calendar on his speedway site. The other months are jam packed with other fixtures but none of them are Swindon's.

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When did zagar ride for Coventry?

Meant KK. Luckily stevebrum knew who i was talking about

[stevebrum]

Meant KK. Luckily stevebrum knew who i was talking about

I knew who you meant, didn't feel a need to be pedantic about the wrong rider tho.

[Crazy robin]

He only has the Swindon fixtures up until 1st June on the calendar on his speedway site. The other months are jam packed with other fixtures but none of them are Swindon's.

He has quoted that it could be longer but as you say he'll have other fixtures on the same night so it looks unlikely.

 

Can't see Adrian coming back anytime soon so back to the drawing in June.

[Anzum]

His website is showing he is in Sweden for the Swindon v Coventry meeting so may only do 4 meetings. Brilliant entertainment last night though.

[Chalkie]

He only has the Swindon fixtures up until 1st June on the calendar on his speedway site. The other months are jam packed with other fixtures but none of them are Swindon's.

OK fair enough but as I said some post ago, I don't think we'll see Adrian back for a long time-"I return slowly". Confused as to what the options are after Peter finishes or what Rosco's thinking is about post-June. No doubt we will find out after the event!

[noggin]

I knew who you meant, didn't feel a need to be pedantic about the wrong rider tho.

Jolly good

[Anzum]

OK fair enough but as I said some post ago, I don't think we'll see Adrian back for a long time-"I return slowly". Confused as to what the options are after Peter finishes or what Rosco's thinking is about post-June. No doubt we will find out after the event!

Only have 2 meetings in June. One of which PK has on his calendar. Then we will have which ever one Poole drop to make way for Ward. Probably North.

[hagonshocker]

You are just talking rubbish now. Look at the table - Swindon aren't falling away from anyone - 2nd to 7th is very close at this stage of the season!

SteveO dont bother you have clearly become his little project and in that case so has slagging off anything Swindon...hopefully he will become increasing bitter and decide he just cant take anymore and join that other idiot from the South Coast and leave this Forum Coil....in the meantime just do what im about to do and put the dinosaur on block

[mdmc82]

You are just talking rubbish now. Look at the table - Swindon aren't falling away from anyone - 2nd to 7th is very close at this stage of the season!

If Swindon win at Belle Vue tomorrow then they would jump in to 4th place and Wolves would drop out of the top 4 for the first time this season. The league is very close this season which is good to see.

[stevebrum]

SteveO dont bother you have clearly become his little project and in that case so has slagging off anything Swindon...hopefully he will become increasing bitter and decide he just cant take anymore and join that other idiot from the South Coast and leave this Forum Coil....in the meantime just do what im about to do and put the dinosaur on block

Amazingly....It was Steve0 that started the 'Wolves are rubbish' nonsense yet somehow I'm the baddie for not rating Swindon. Wake up or grow up the pair of you.

By the way I don't get bullied by anyone so best put me on ignore if you don't want to read my opinions.

However try not to be a hypocrite!

Just when I thought the forum was becoming a better and more respectful place. Tut tut.

If Swindon win at Belle Vue tomorrow then they would jump in to 4th place and Wolves would drop out of the top 4 for the first time this season. The league is very close this season which is good to see.

Amazing isn't it - the team that are meant to be rubbish (according the same few that are still going on pre season predictions) have been in the top 4 All season so far. Yea, REALLY bad! Edited May 10, 2015 by stevebrum

[Aces51]

The most relevant guide to current form is points gained versus points lost. Current standings are:

 

Coventry +16

Poole +6

K Lynn +4

Wolves +3

Belle Vue +1

Swindon -3

Lakeside -8

Leicester -9

 

Other factors come into account such as who each team has currently raced and of course injuries but the above is a better guide than the standard league table.

As for tonight. I am confident of an Aces win but it could be difficult if Cook is still not 100% and puts in a below par performance.

[mdmc82]

The most relevant guide to current form is points gained versus points lost. Current standings are:

 

Coventry +16

Poole +6

K Lynn +4

Wolves +3

Belle Vue +1

Swindon -3

Lakeside -8

Leicester -9

 

Other factors come into account such as who each team has currently raced and of course injuries but the above is a better guide than the standard league table.

As for tonight. I am confident of an Aces win but it could be difficult if Cook is still not 100% and puts in a below par performance.

Great start by Coventry

[stevebrum]

The most relevant guide to current form is points gained versus points lost. Current standings are:

Coventry +16

Poole +6

K Lynn +4

Wolves +3

Belle Vue +1

Swindon -3

Lakeside -8

Leicester -9

Other factors come into account such as who each team has currently raced and of course injuries but the above is a better guide than the standard league table. As for tonight. I am confident of an Aces win but it could be difficult if Cook is still not 100% and puts in a below par performance.

Seems relevant then, Wolves still in the top 4 while the bottom 3 still look fodder so far.

Plenty of meetings to change things around for everyone however!

[dump that clutch]

The most relevant guide to current form is points gained versus points lost. Current standings are:

 

Coventry +16

Poole +6

K Lynn +4

Wolves +3

Belle Vue +1

Swindon -3

Lakeside -8

Leicester -9

 

Other factors come into account such as who each team has currently raced and of course injuries but the above is a better guide than the standard league table.

As for tonight. I am confident of an Aces win but it could be difficult if Cook is still not 100% and puts in a below par performance.

looking at that table it seems 1 team is punching waaaay above their weight....

 

..... i'll give you a clue... 4th team down...

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Amazingly....It was Steve0 that started the 'Wolves are rubbish' nonsense yet somehow I'm the baddie for not rating Swindon. Wake up or grow up the pair of you.

By the way I don't get bullied by anyone so best put me on ignore if you don't want to read my opinions.

However try not to be a hypocrite!

TBF, he only said what most of us though. TBH I'm very impressed with Wolves start - especially as PK aside I can't see how they're doing it! It leaves me confused, I think Wolves are pants when I look at the 1-7 but when I consider PK scoring is only going to drop a little while Musliak and Thorsell should get better Wolves should get stronger.

 

Swindon really depends on what happens in 4 weeks time with Kildemand and/or Miedzinski. Could be battling for play-offs or totally screw if both quit.

[stevebrum]

looking at that table it seems 1 team is punching waaaay above their weight....

 

..... i'll give you a clue... 4th team down...

Punching well above our weight indeed. Just goes to show how rubbish 5-8 are then! ;-)

TBF, he only said what most of us though. TBH I'm very impressed with Wolves start - especially as PK aside I can't see how they're doing it! It leaves me confused, I think Wolves are pants when I look at the 1-7 but when I consider PK scoring is only going to drop a little while Musliak and Thorsell should get better Wolves should get stronger.

 

Swindon really depends on what happens in 4 weeks time with Kildemand and/or Miedzinski. Could be battling for play-offs or totally screw if both quit.

Plenty of Wolves fans thought the same however those that are engaging their brains can acknowledge our good start for what it us. And we are only firing at about 60-70%. At least you can see that we are defying the supposed know alls who only seem to go on paper not on actual on track results.

 

anyway let's get it back on topic and good luck to both teams tonight. With us not riding a chance to catch us up - temporarily; -)

[waiheke1]

 

The old was you there argument?

 

It doesn't matter if it was a close call.

 

Worrall is the better rider. Worrall has a greater chance of scoring pts in heat 9 than Nielsen. It doesn't mean Worrall will always beat Nielsen, but he will do so more than he loses. Therefore to maximise your chances of winning you put the better rider in. Whether he is 1% better or 50% better.

 

It's like saying you're having a go on a roulette wheel that has 25 red slots and 20 black and then justifying picking black as 'its a close call'.

 

Exactly.

I've pulled out the stats on this.

Inthe designated reserve heats, Worral scores 2.1pts per ride vs Nielseon's 0.9 pts (2.3 v 0.9 if you include bp)

In the other scheduled reserve heats (i.e.the ones where they race 2nd strings, I am excluding heats where they replace a heat leader), Worrall averages 0.9pts v Nielsen's 0.6 (1.0 vs 0.7 with BP)

So - Worrall is performing around 50% better than Nielsen in heats where he is elegible to take one of Nielsen's rides . That's the same proportionate difference as a 9 poiint rider vs a 6 point rider - if Kings Lynn could choose to use NKI to replae Porsing in one of his heats each meeting, how often would they do it - I'd imagine EVERY TIME unless the result was a foregone conclusion.

I haven't checked, but I'd imagine most reserve combinations for other sides would be similar (Lakeside would be an exception) - some sliughtly less different, some slightly greater. But it's surely simply bad management from a results perspective not to use your better reservce five times a meeting, except where the result s a foregone conclusion, or the stronger rider is having an absolute mare/weaker rider having a bblinder. The Aces have used Worral for the extra ride in only 4 out of 9 meetings, and taht includes some clos emeetings where an extra point could have ended up being vital.

[Aces51]

I don't disagree and certainly Worrall should be used when the meeting is close.

 

However, I think when the result is not close that you also have to have an eye to rider development. The more races they have the more likely the usually less experienced rider will progress.