Guest Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 (edited) Did any one see the impressive advert on the Daily Mirror sports page today for next week's stock car racing at Belle Vue? I can't remember when I last saw a National Press advert like that - if ever - for a speedway meeting. Some thing like this advert is needed for the National Speedway Stadium to possibly equal when they eventually are ready to open in 2016? Edited August 7, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Some thing like this advert is needed for the National Speedway Stadium to possibly equal when they eventually are ready to open in 2016? No it isn't. What would be the point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 No it isn't. What would be the point? Make more folk aware perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Make more folk aware perhaps? And what would be the point in spending thousands of pounds on an advert to make the nation's Daily Mirror readers aware of a Speedway meeting which may be hundreds of miles away from them, and which even those close enough to attend wouldn't be able to attend due to the meeting being sold out months before? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 (edited) Did any one see the impressive advert on the Daily Mirror sports page today for next week's stock car racing at Belle Vue? I can't remember when I last saw a National Press advert like that - if ever - for a speedway meeting. Some thing like this advert is needed for the National Speedway Stadium to possibly equal when they eventually are ready to open in 2016? Â Â No it isn't. What would be the point? No point at all. You, as always, are so correct John Leslie, It was probably only a prestige advert by Startrax for their ventures at the present track. Not many people read the Daily Mirror so a similar advert would not be seen by many people. Speedway, of course, is such a mega sport these days it doesn't need to boast itself to the public at large. Fancy me being silly enough to think I was putting forward a good idea! I did think perhaps an advert would also attract the Mirror's sports team to give some coverage to the opening meeting - again, how silly of me. Edited August 9, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Â Â No point at all. You, as always, are so correct John Leslie, It was probably only a prestige advert by Startrax for their ventures at the present track. Not many people read the Daily Mirror so a similar advert would not be seen by many people. Speedway, of course, is such a mega sport these days it doesn't need to boast itself to the public at large. Fancy me being silly enough to think I was putting forward a good idea! I did think perhaps and advert would also attract the Mirror's sports team to give some coverage to the opening meeting - again, how silly of me. Â Yep. Totally silly. Â No idea what you are waffling on about now though. Why do you say Not many people read the Mirror? and an advert would not be seen by many people? Granted a lot more people read The Sun, but lots of people read the Mirror and a lot of people would see a Stock Car advert in the Mirror if there actually was one...(not sure if there was one though as I've asked some Mirror readers to show me the Stock Car advert and they haven't seen it). Â Anyway back to the subject, you seem to have failed to answer the question of what would be the point of spending thousands on an advert in a National newspaper for the Belle Vue opening meeting when the majority of Mirror readers may live nowhere near Manchester, and those that do live nearby still couldn't attend as the meeting would be sold out months before the advert appeared... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 There is no point in Belle Vue putting an advert in the Mirror for their opening meeting.....it would be a waste of money....there is so much natural publicity for this meeting and its selling fast....to spend a fortune on advertising in the Mirror and the like would be a waste and unnecessary. The Bank Holiday stock car meeting at Belle Vue is always advertised in the Mirror and the Manchester Evening News....the same advert has been published for a few years now and it does make the meeting look attractive....it's much easier to spend money to advertise one meeting though than a full speedway season and the only stock car meeting I ever see advertised is the bank holiday show,...it did catch my wife's eye though and we did take our children to it once but to be honest they found it very boring and never wanted to go back..with was a relief to me as it was awfully boring !.. Â It's one thing advertising a one off event like a bank holiday stock car event to advertising a full season of speedway....I've no doubt more advertising could be done but at the moment they don't need to spend that for the opening meeting , and closer to the event it wil get so much coverage on local TV anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Â Yep. Totally silly. Â No idea what you are waffling on about now though. Why do you say Not many people read the Mirror? and an advert would not be seen by many people? Granted a lot more people read The Sun, but lots of people read the Mirror and a lot of people would see a Stock Car advert in the Mirror if there actually was one...(not sure if there was one though as I've asked some Mirror readers to show me the Stock Car advert and they haven't seen it). Â Anyway back to the subject, you seem to have failed to answer the question of what would be the point of spending thousands on an advert in a National newspaper for the Belle Vue opening meeting when the majority of Mirror readers may live nowhere near Manchester, and those that do live nearby still couldn't attend as the meeting would be sold out months before the advert appeared... Â The advert was on a right hand sports page on the day mentioned, at the top of the page, right hand side. If your friends could not/did not see the adevrt (it was a near quarter page) I think that Specsavers do open on Sundays? Â Anyway back to the subject, you seem to have failed to answer the question of what would be the point of spending thousands on an advert in a National newspaper for the Belle Vue opening meeting when the majority of Mirror readers may live nowhere near Manchester, and those that do live nearby still couldn't attend as the meeting would be sold out months before the advert appeared... The point of the advert is known in the newspaper business as prestige advertising. A term probably above your reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) What kind of an idiot would suggest an advert in the Daily Mirror for an all-ticket sold-out meeting which will already have massive press and local tv news coverage...oh For the prestige it gives what we think of as a 'national' stadium. The term isn't prestige advertising. The term would be "stupidly pissing money down the drain". Yesterday AFC Bournemouth played their first game in the Premier League. They had massive media coverage and a sold-out stadium. I wonder why they didn't take out some prestige advertising in the Daily Mirror Because they knew their Premier League debut would generate mass national media. I doubt that the opening of the place at Belle Vue will get the same attention. Â Compare what we are getting 'all excited about" to their football neighbours massive revamp. There's a very big difference. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3138123/Manchester-City-s-Etihad-Stadium-revamp-edges-closer-completion-prepare-Premier-League-clash-against-Chelsea.html Edited August 9, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) I'll give you a clue. AFC Bournemouth had already sold all tickets to their opening Premier League match beforehand. It would have been pointless to place an advert in the Daily Mirror with no tickets left to sell Similarly Belle Vue will have sold all tickets to their opening meeting at the new stadium long before the day of the meeting and it would be pointless to waste money advertising something that can no longer be bought Surely even you aren't thick enough to fail to grasp that? They could alternatively advertise their full season programme. No need to be abusive - or is that your usual intelligence level? Â http://www.dailymail...st-Chelsea.html Edited August 9, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) What's abusive? How do you misread so much? I suggested you weren't thick enough. It's you who seems to be determined to prove that you are. Have you still not grasped that it would be pointless to advertise something in the daily Mirror which is no longer available to sell? (That is the point you were trying to make before you went daft and started posting daily Mail links about Chelsea for no apparent reason) The Links were to show how the scale of the football ground extension far exceeds what those in speedway are branding as a so-called National Speedway Stadium. I still think an advert for the place would be beneficial as the Mirror might - JUST MIGHT - do a follow up story on "the grand opening" and that could have major steps perhaps to restimulate national inteest for a sport that appears to be slowly dying? Edited August 9, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) Mr Onion, Don't try to use reason and logic against our resident troll. Â He always does the same thing...makes a stupid statement, and then when people point out with reasons and logic why the statement was stupid, he will go off topic and start posting irrelevant links, (often to wikipedia), and then claim he is being picked on and bullied. Â Nothing new here...he claimed that Belle Vue's opening meeting should be advertised with an expensive ad in the Daily Mirror. I pointed out that this would be a stupid idea because there is no point in advertising a sold-out meeting, Bruiser McHuge said much the same thing (your analogy to Bournemouth not needing to advertise their Premier League match which was already sold out was a good one). True to form he then starts posting non-relevant links to the Man City v Chelsea match, his next step will be to say that everyone is bullying him. Â He also gets very bitter about anyone doing anything positive in speedway. The opening of a new state-of-the-art stadium with a sweeping 350m track, and associated training academy and development facilities must be like a dagger through the heart to him. Â One thing he won't do is answer the question of why he thought wasting seroius amounts of money on an expensive advert in a national newspaper, for a meeting which will by then be already sold out, is a good idea. Edited August 9, 2015 by John Leslie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 He just has done in #118 has'nt he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 And what would be the point in spending thousands of pounds on an advert to make the nation's Daily Mirror readers aware of a Speedway meeting which may be hundreds of miles away from them, and which even those close enough to attend wouldn't be able to attend due to the meeting being sold out months before? I'm not sure of an advert for one Meeting - but - something like that advertising Speedway in general, perhaps with a list of Tracks and their locations might not be money wasted. Â Basically I think something like that would certainly help raise awareness of the Sport. Whether or not it would encourage new Supporters to go along to their local Track and give it a try - I don't know. It is certainly open to question. Â I don't see anything wrong with someone attempting to make a sensible, positive suggestion either. You ought to be able to do that on this Forum without all the clever clogs shooting you down in flames. Â Perhaps you all have good positive suggestions - why not try Posting them? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) Sorry to say for a National Speedway Stadium - as it has been dubbed - the 'new' Belle Vue doesn't look especially prestigious to me. For a domestic speedway venue it is OK. I think for a National Stadium, a further upvamp at Foxhall Heath would have fitted the bill - and Ipswich can also offer overnight camping faciities. Edited August 10, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Sorry to say for a National Speedway Stadium - as it has been dubbed - the 'new' Belle Vue doesn't look especially prestigious to me. For a domestic speedway venue it is OK. I think for a National Stadium, a further upvamp at Foxhall Heath would have fitted the bill - and Ipswich can also offer overnight camping faciities. Nurse...he's out of bed again! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Sorry to say for a National Speedway Stadium - as it has been dubbed - the 'new' Belle Vue doesn't look especially prestigious to me. For a domestic speedway venue it is OK. I think for a National Stadium, a further upvamp at Foxhall Heath would have fitted the bill - and Ipswich can also offer overnight camping faciities. And why post that ?......it serves no purpose and just throws any credibility you had right out of the window.....you come across as a very bitter old man if you don't mind me saying so. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Nurse...he's out of bed again! You really are something John Leslie - I think the comment re Ipswich is valid. It has also appeared on Facebook and been SENSIBLY discussed there - for and against reasons. Even a suggestion that Ipswich could be used for some major events. But no - John Leslie has to criticise rather than make a valid 'for and against; comment. And that "he's out of bed remark' wa amusing first time round - but has become very 'old hat' with its overuse. I note another 'of the good old BSF gang' is on the list of 'likes' to JL's post. Another of those who just don't give up with his - presumably - fascination for my comments. Basically he along with JL are two commentators without any known background in speedway's administration at any stage whereas I can top that with some 'inside workings in the sport' over the years. What does that summarise in both instances - 'attack the Poster and not the Post.' Pity the BSF Mods don't notice these persistent violations of what are supposed to be the forum's rules! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) I didn't realise that a nearby campsite was what a National stadium needed. Maybe we should hold a GP at Buxton? Excellent camping facilities in the Peak district. Actually I didn't even know there was a campsite at Foxhall. Maybe they should put a double page advert in the Daily Mail and Camping Monthly. Â Nearby camp site. Excellent idea if a stadium stages a two-day meeting. One of the attractions - successful too - at Foxhall Heath when they host their annual car racing Spedeweekend. And the track is well placed centrally in the UK rather in 'northern parts.' Plus the stadium owners have made massive improvements over the past couple of years to the stadium and it is understood these upgrades are ongoing. Edited August 11, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 He's not even any good at trolling. Â Foxhole....two day Elite League meetings? Camping? Ipswich moving to the Midlands? Â Bring back Shovlar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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