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Should Tai Woffinden Ride For Team Gb ?


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Incidentally, whatever happened to KKS and his/her many pseudonyms? They don't seem to be as active now... I don't know what made me suddenly think of KKS. Any ideas?

KKS has been active tonight as "Morrissey Fan" on some political threads in general discussion.

KKS can be quite amusing, and is not as daft as he/she pretends to be.

The KKS fantasy stories are that silly that you know they're in on the joke. And KKS never gets to a point where they've been backed into a corner they can't get out of.

KKS also has a decent speedway knowledge.

 

Nothing like Robert72.

 

 

Then you must all be easily pleased and led. Because nearly 2000 post later you are still following him.

Yes, but I've nowhere near read all the 2,000 posts. like you, I've just dipped in and out when I've felt like it. Plenty of other people have taken their turn at ripping the wee-wee out of Robbie.

The only person consistently active and contributing all the way through the thread is Robert72.....and that is quite sad.

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Having explained to you how nationality works, I feel I am the best one to teach you how betting works.

 

Pin back your lugholes Roberto....

 

You see you offered a bet and set the stakes, which JL called. JL's money was needed just to cover your bet in case he lost....

 

Since he won, he keeps his money in his pocket. You, having lost, need to get your money out. Crack open that Monopoly set old son.

 

Now I realise £10k would make a big hole in your giro/pocket money. So what I recommend is to do what you are already doing....Welch on the bet.

 

It might not be nice for you to be known as a lying yellow-bellied welcher, but it's not as bad as getting in trouble with the DSS/mummy.

Dumb and dumber, not sure which one is you and which one is JL ?

 

Stop the talking and show the real money then, however I guess none of you are that confident of the risk of losing £10k

 

Time you shut it as you clearly can't raise the money.

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I was wondering how an Austrailian (Rory S ) could be allowed to ride for team GB ?

 

The BSPA banned all British rider's from competing as they don't recognise SEC as an official series.

 

Robert Lambert competed on his German licence and Schlein was the only other rider willing to race for GB who wasn't a GB national.

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Woffy could ride for Australia if he wanted to, almost certain of that.

 

I will join in the betting, if Robert72 sends me proof of his identity i will donate $1000 to the Ben fund straight away. You have my word. If you dont come up with the proof by say Wednesday 9pm, you donate the equivilent of $1000 AUS dollars. Deal?

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Dumb and dumber, not sure which one is you and which one is JL ?

 

Stop the talking and show the real money then, however I guess none of you are that confident of the risk of losing £10k

 

Time you shut it as you clearly can't raise the money.

 

 

JL doesn't have to show any money as he hasn't lost any bet you clown.

 

Should you provide the proof you claim you can, then JL has to pay up. If he doesn't you can then hound him, mock him and laud it over the forum. Such a rich opportunity for you, it's a no lose situation for you! Either the Ben Fund which you worship gains 10K, or you prove everyone wrong and make every single poster on this thread a fool.

 

However, if you really want to go down the 'showing the money line', you are the one who set the stakes, you should show the money first.

 

It's a shame for the Ben Fund that their name is being dragged through the mud in such a disgraceful fashion as this. If you really did care so much about it you would show some respect and not make promises you cannot keep. Either way, your failure to follow through on the bet has cost the Ben Fun 10K. You should be ashamed.

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Woffy could ride for Australia if he wanted to, almost certain of that.

I will join in the betting, if Robert72 sends me proof of his identity i will donate $1000 to the Ben fund straight away. You have my word. If you dont come up with the proof by say Wednesday 9pm, you donate the equivilent of $1000 AUS dollars. Deal?

Can you explain how Tai could qualify to ride as Australian?

 

As far as as I can see, from looking online in the past, he wouldn't be eligible for Australian citizenship as he wasn't born there, he was born to (presumably) British parents and he moved away before he was an adult.

 

To qualify he would have had to reach adulthood there. His parents would qualify (should they have chosen to) but not him.

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Can you explain how Tai could qualify to ride as Australian?

 

As far as as I can see, from looking online in the past, he wouldn't be eligible for Australian citizenship as he wasn't born there, he was born to (presumably) British parents and he moved away before he was an adult.

 

To qualify he would have had to reach adulthood there. His parents would qualify (should they have chosen to) but not him.

You do not have to be born in a country to claim citizenship there.... My mate out here in Aus is a recent citizen and has lived in the country well under 10 years.

 

Can you not remember at the time he had a choice of representing GB or Aus.

 

His parents would no doubt of been citezens of Australia having both lived here well over a decade.

 

Happy to be proved wrong but having been through the Aussie immigration regulations myself in depth lately due to my own situation, i find it baffling how he cannot represent Australia given his circumstances

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Good lad......it really is the only option left to you....Act totally stupid and renege on your lost bet.

 

Sure the SRBF would have appreciated your £10k (were it not fictitious) but for everyone else, well we're just chuckling at you being called out on your silly ex-rider claims and your being made to look a fool.

 

As people have said, you're hilarious entertainment, but remember...everyone is laughing at you, not with you.

Good lad......it really is the only option left to you....Act totally stupid and renege on your lost bet.

 

Sure the SRBF would have appreciated your £10k (were it not fictitious) but for everyone else, well we're just chuckling at you being called out on your silly ex-rider claims and your being made to look a fool.

 

As people have said, you're hilarious entertainment, but remember...everyone is laughing at you, not with you.

Good lad......it really is the only option left to you....Act totally stupid and renege on your lost bet.

 

Sure the SRBF would have appreciated your £10k (were it not fictitious) but for everyone else, well we're just chuckling at you being called out on your silly ex-rider claims and your being made to look a fool.

 

As people have said, you're hilarious entertainment, but remember...everyone is laughing at you, not with you.

Good lad......it really is the only option left to you....Act totally stupid and renege on your lost bet.

 

Sure the SRBF would have appreciated your £10k (were it not fictitious) but for everyone else, well we're just chuckling at you being called out on your silly ex-rider claims and your being made to look a fool.

 

As people have said, you're hilarious entertainment, but remember...everyone is laughing at you, not with you.

You haven't proved your right and I am wrong, if you or the clowns were that confident then you would raise the money but your not 100% sure, so put the real money up or shut it.

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Looked on the aussie immigration website.

Had tai applied to be a citizen when he was living there as a teenager I think he qualified.

Now though looks like he would need to live there for 4 years. Doesn't qualify via parents as they were not aussie citizens when he was born.

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Still running scared welcher?

 

I don't need to put anything up. I'm not interested in your pretend bet. I know you're a daydreaming idiot.

 

JL put up. He called your bet, and you ran away. You've since admitted you're not an ex-rider as you pretended to be. You made yourself look a fool. Now you're reneging on a bet.

 

Ever heard the saying "when you're in a hole stop digging"?

Simply the true fact is you know nothing as you have no proof plus please show me the proof where I admitted I wasn't an ex-rider ? Your the one making things up and looking the fool.

 

If you are that confident then why don't you put the money up as at least you would be donating to a good cause.

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What is this "putting the money up"?

 

You agreed the 10k bet. Onus is now on Robert72 to declare who he is. Once that is done and it is accepted that he is a former rider, then the money becomes the issue.

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Looked on the aussie immigration website.

Had tai applied to be a citizen when he was living there as a teenager I think he qualified.

Now though looks like he would need to live there for 4 years. Doesn't qualify via parents as they were not aussie citizens when he was born.

 

From what I can gather, you need to be over 16 and have been a resident for 4 years to apply. Tai moved away at 15.

 

It may be possible that his parents could have applied for citizenship at some point. I think they could possibly have included him in their own application if they did. But I've seen nothing to say anywhere that they or he became an Australian citizen, and he wouldn't have qualified any other way other than on their application.

 

He certainly couldn't have applied for it on his own.

You do not have to be born in a country to claim citizenship there.... My mate out here in Aus is a recent citizen and has lived in the country well under 10 years.

 

Can you not remember at the time he had a choice of representing GB or Aus.

 

His parents would no doubt of been citezens of Australia having both lived here well over a decade.

 

Happy to be proved wrong but having been through the Aussie immigration regulations myself in depth lately due to my own situation, i find it baffling how he cannot represent Australia given his circumstances

 

Your mate is, presumably, over 16.

 

They wouldn't have automatically become citizens just by living there 10 years, so it would depend if they applied for it or not. I know plenty of people who are resident in the UK but never needed to become citizens.

 

As he was under 16, as far as I can see, the only way he might have got it is if they had applied for it and included him at the same time. Whether or not this actually happened doesn't seem to be stated anywhere, and unless he or his mum confirms it I guess nobody knows for sure.

 

But living there from the age of 5 to 15 on its own wouldn't qualify him for citizenship.

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What is this "putting the money up"?

 

You agreed the 10k bet. Onus is now on Robert72 to declare who he is. Once that is done and it is accepted that he is a former rider, then the money becomes the issue.

 

The money will never be given by these fools that's the problem, all talk.

 

127 pages and it's still going strong :)

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The money will never be given by these fools that's the problem, all talk.

 

127 pages and it's still going strong :)

 

 

It must be the most attention you've ever experienced rob, now you can't stand the thought of it ending and you slipping back into obscurity. You harp on about 127 pages but you're the one who's dragging it out by refusing to back up your ridiculous claims that you lined up at the start with World Champions.

 

Sod the bet, sod the money, it's all talk anyway, just provide the necessary to back up your fantasies and we can all return to BSF normality. :unsure:

 

Come on rob, stop being a knob.

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From what I can gather, you need to be over 16 and have been a resident for 4 years to apply. Tai moved away at 15.

 

It may be possible that his parents could have applied for citizenship at some point. I think they could possibly have included him in their own application if they did. But I've seen nothing to say anywhere that they or he became an Australian citizen, and he wouldn't have qualified any other way other than on their application.

 

He certainly couldn't have applied for it on his own.

 

 

Your mate is, presumably, over 16.

 

They wouldn't have automatically become citizens just by living there 10 years, so it would depend if they applied for it or not. I know plenty of people who are resident in the UK but never needed to become citizens.

 

As he was under 16, as far as I can see, the only way he might have got it is if they had applied for it and included him at the same time. Whether or not this actually happened doesn't seem to be stated anywhere, and unless he or his mum confirms it I guess nobody knows for sure.

 

But living there from the age of 5 to 15 on its own wouldn't qualify him for citizenship.

I would imagine when his parents lodged their citizenship applications, assumimg they did, Tai was included in that application.

 

Could be totally wrong.

 

I just remember the big debate on whether he would decide to go for the uk or Australia some years back after he turned 16, there wouldnt of been an option had he not been eligible for an Australian passport.

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That could have just been people making presumptions though because he'd lived in Oz. Did Sue & Rob actually have citizenships? I've a mate who lives in Brisbane who's been out there 12 years. Her husband took his citizenship test last year as it helped with work apparently, but she's still classed as a Brit with a British passport as are their kids.

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That could have just been people making presumptions though because he'd lived in Oz. Did Sue & Rob actually have citizenships? I've a mate who lives in Brisbane who's been out there 12 years. Her husband took his citizenship test last year as it helped with work apparently, but she's still classed as a Brit with a British passport as are their kids.

 

Yeah, I've often thought there have been assumptions made too.

 

Patricularly as I recall Tai himself said he was held up due to visa problems with the Australian GP last year. He wouldn't have needed a visa if he was a citizen, although, of course, it could have meant for some of his team rather than himself.

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How many riders over the years have took out a British passport but raced for Austrailia ?

 

 

Another meaningless question to deflect the pressure, you're really struggling now aren't you rob, give it up fella.

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