chris4gillian Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 And your first thought is was to come on here and read and post about it ...added you own crock ..as people keep telling you if have no interest why read and keep added to it . the most odd mind set ive seen on any subject Blah, blah, blah... The Australian flag on his back doesn't suggest that he sees himself as British. Was he in the UK on Monday? If so then he should have been at Belle Vue to observe/help/assist and pass on knowledge with Rosco. It seems to me that whilst Rob and Sue were true Brits, and made great sacrifices for Tai's career, they returned to the UK because this was the best place for a "young aussie" to learn his craft, in a Holder, Ward etc kind of way. Fair play, plenty do that. The next thing was the international stage, and with Crump, Adams (I think) and the emerging talent around the best way that "young Tai" would get noticed was by playing the "Brit" card. Let's face it, his first season in the GP was a disaster, and he was only nominated because he was British. He is now undoubtedly the best rider in the world - and that is purely down to him. Hats off for that. I can't help but thinking though that he now considers his "British" background to be a handicap. I think (I don't know) that given the choice he would declare himself Australian. He spends half of his life there, and has said previously he will retire there. His choice - good luck to him. I wish I could retire to Australia. Wearing an England shirt for his TV interviews though doesn't hide the fact for me - Tai doesn't consider himself to be English/British. I'm very glad that he races for us though, and I think that should long continue. Tai has said countless times that he considers himself to be British....it's only a few ignorant posters on here who refuse to accept it. You obviously fall into that bracket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 everyone thinks they know Tai better than he knows himself.. having spent some great moments with the Woffinden family they are and will remain so commited to british speedway and its not because they think its an easy in to the GP series.. Tai said to me 10 years ago when I gave Tai, Rob and Sue (a visiting rider and family for Scunthorpe... Plymouths deadly NL rivals) a guided tour of Plymouth and took him to my home to pressure wash his bikes and kevlars and prep them for the nights racing .. one day mate i will be world champ and what he has done is everything he has had to do to achieve that and I for one will never say a bad word about the guy.. I will always look upon Tai as one of the most dedicated and focused riders I have met.. nothing will stand in his way of getting to his goals but he has always considered himself British I reckon to Partially honour his Mum and Dad but he was in Australia for a long time and if I had a chance to go there for the winter holly bejesus I would be gone.. best of luck to the guy and best of luck to the British Team Captained by Tai 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 The Australian flag on his back doesn't suggest that he sees himself as British. I'll settle for the British one on the front of his race jacket. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 everyone thinks they know Tai better than he knows himself.. having spent some great moments with the Woffinden family they are and will remain so commited to british speedway and its not because they think its an easy in to the GP series.. Tai said to me 10 years ago when I gave Tai, Rob and Sue (a visiting rider and family for Scunthorpe... Plymouths deadly NL rivals) a guided tour of Plymouth and took him to my home to pressure wash his bikes and kevlars and prep them for the nights racing .. one day mate i will be world champ and what he has done is everything he has had to do to achieve that and I for one will never say a bad word about the guy.. I will always look upon Tai as one of the most dedicated and focused riders I have met.. nothing will stand in his way of getting to his goals but he has always considered himself British I reckon to Partially honour his Mum and Dad but he was in Australia for a long time and if I had a chance to go there for the winter holly bejesus I would be gone.. best of luck to the guy and best of luck to the British Team Captained by Tai One of the best informed posts I've read on hear, very interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Tai will have a set up in sweden touring and one in poland touring and hid GP set up also touring.. His GP set up wouldn't be able to have got from Denmark to Manchester in time for Monday and neither would of any of his other set ups to be able to continue his contractual league racing on the Tuesday.. if someone could tell me how he could of got his bikes over here in that very short space of time without costing huge amounts.. please chirp up.. I think he reasons of saying I have won it three times on the bounce.. I want to give one of the younger guys a chance to win it and get their GP spot .. I don't think for one second Danny King thought this is a hollow victory because tai wasn't here.. in fact I think he was relieved.. that track would have suited Tai and his bikes would have out done any riders bikes there for speed.. so yes he deserves the team spot and I think you should give the guy a break If this is the case how did Tai manage to ride and win the British Final for the last 3 years when his commitments were exactly the same ? Explain ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 everyone thinks they know Tai better than he knows himself.. having spent some great moments with the Woffinden family they are and will remain so commited to british speedway and its not because they think its an easy in to the GP series.. Tai said to me 10 years ago when I gave Tai, Rob and Sue (a visiting rider and family for Scunthorpe... Plymouths deadly NL rivals) a guided tour of Plymouth and took him to my home to pressure wash his bikes and kevlars and prep them for the nights racing .. one day mate i will be world champ and what he has done is everything he has had to do to achieve that and I for one will never say a bad word about the guy.. I will always look upon Tai as one of the most dedicated and focused riders I have met.. nothing will stand in his way of getting to his goals but he has always considered himself British I reckon to Partially honour his Mum and Dad but he was in Australia for a long time and if I had a chance to go there for the winter holly bejesus I would be gone.. best of luck to the guy and best of luck to the British Team Captained by Tai Cracking post. One of the best I've read on here for a long time. Hopefully that will shut up the 'Tai is not a Brit, he's an Aussie' brigade once and for all If this is the case how did Tai manage to ride and win the British Final for the last 3 years when his commitments were exactly the same ? Explain ! Err...he had bikes over here the last few years, this year he hasn't. I won't even bother going into the timing of the British Final as that horse has been flogged to death and Dazzafl even explains it! That's as a full and concise answer to your question you'll get. Now for the love of God move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 It's a joke these Tai dislikers that haven't the intellect to actually see the truth. The British Semi Final dates were the issue but as you say the people with their own agenda won't listen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) It's a joke these Tai dislikers that haven't the intellect to actually see the truth. The British Semi Final dates were the issue but as you say the people with their own agenda won't listen So you've spoken to Tai you can confirm that is the truth Just for the record I'm not a Tai hater just someone who has changed their opinion and thinks less of him now, since he decided to deprive his fans of seeing him in a rare appearance on home shale at the British Final . I'm not on my own Edited June 15, 2016 by New Science 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 The Australian flag on his back doesn't suggest that he sees himself as British. Was he in the UK on Monday? If so then he should have been at Belle Vue to observe/help/assist and pass on knowledge with Rosco. It seems to me that whilst Rob and Sue were true Brits, and made great sacrifices for Tai's career, they returned to the UK because this was the best place for a "young aussie" to learn his craft, in a Holder, Ward etc kind of way. Fair play, plenty do that. The next thing was the international stage, and with Crump, Adams (I think) and the emerging talent around the best way that "young Tai" would get noticed was by playing the "Brit" card. Let's face it, his first season in the GP was a disaster, and he was only nominated because he was British. Your user name says all we need to know about you He is now undoubtedly the best rider in the world - and that is purely down to him. Hats off for that. I can't help but thinking though that he now considers his "British" background to be a handicap. I think (I don't know) that given the choice he would declare himself Australian. He spends half of his life there, and has said previously he will retire there. His choice - good luck to him. I wish I could retire to Australia. Wearing an England shirt for his TV interviews though doesn't hide the fact for me - Tai doesn't consider himself to be English/British. I'm very glad that he races for us though, and I think that should long continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I think steve Brandon could of possibly asked tai the question at the GP, sometimes its nice to listen to a varied question, other than "hows track conditions", but the brit final is done now, so maybe this thread will soon end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyc3Yll2nxQ&app=desktop Tai again showing the class act he is. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Tai again showing the class act he is. It was good for the kid and a bit of PR for tai, shame he can't do something for the Ben fund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 It was good for the kid and a bit of PR for tai, shame he can't do something for the Ben fund. He must have ridden in it some time, surely? Wasn't he in the one at Leicester a couple of years ago when world champion? And certainly the 2010 at Rye House. And the first one at Sheffield? Presumably you've mentioned these somewhere in the thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 It was good for the kid and a bit of PR for tai, shame he can't do something for the Ben fund. Understand we like to look after our own - but surely the +100k he has raised for sick children confirms his dedication to a chosen charity and deserves the utmost credit. You appear to keep ignoring that fact! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 It was good for the kid and a bit of PR for tai, shame he can't do something for the Ben fund. Except he has, several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Understand we like to look after our own - but surely the +100k he has raised for sick children confirms his dedication to a chosen charity and deserves the utmost credit. You appear to keep ignoring that fact! No I spoke highly of that before so it wasn't ignored but in his position he could do something big for the Ben fund, the guy is a multi millionaire, 2x world champion and says he is British so its time he did something worthwhile for the British Ben Fun and help the wheelchair bound riders here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 This has got to be one of the most embarrasing threads i've ever read. I'd love to see some of the thoughts said on here, said face to face in person. Easy behind a keyboard, telling others what they should be doing isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 This has got to be one of the most embarrasing threads i've ever read. I'd love to see some of the thoughts said on here, said face to face in person. Easy behind a keyboard, telling others what they should be doing isn't it. when I see tai next I will speak to him and make views to his face in a respectful way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 when I see tai next I will speak to him and make views to his face in a respectful way. With respect....this is not pointed at just you, but anybody...but what has anybody's views or opinion got to do with what he wants to do with his life? No body knows exactly what goes on his life. What gives anyone the right to go up to a person and tell them what they should be doing? Just because he's a speedway rider, it doesn't give anyone the right to tell him what he can and cannot do. Think about it. In all seriousness...If you went up to Tai and said your feelings...what reaction would you want? What's it got to do with you? Why does he have to explain anything to you...or listen to your views? Isn't that in itself all a bit weird? I'd be highly embarrassed if it were me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Tai making a young lads day. https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=dyc3Yll2nxQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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