Gavan Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I honestly don't think tai should be captain of the British team, I think bomber should be captain. Tai only won the British final on his home track where he had the track set up for him (including the shovel) would of been good to have seen him at the new venue against very hungry Brits this year. I know several riders feel cheated he won't be racing them in the final. Keep hearing about training schools but no dates ? Also if he is so busy and too tired to do the British final when would the training schools take place. Talking to a couple of promoters who also feel it is very damaging for British Speedway tai not wanting to ride in it as British world champion and reigning British champion who could of gone on and equaled the all time record of 4 wins in a row,all great for British speedway and the build up to an exciting British final, Tai not riding is a huge loss for decent PR for British Speedway. Oh I do think it looks a very exciting line up for Monday and looking forward to it. Tai was pretty much unbeatable on other tracks and on many he had a better average away from Monmore as proved on here before. He would be unbeatable on bigger tracks Huge PR loss??? Talking absolute tosh. Its bigger PR that he is missing as i explained The big belle Vue track would suit tai better than monmore, his bikes are far quicker than any other gb rider so the big open spaces would suit him perfectly. The training schools I assume would happen at the end of the season not during? As explained to Robert72 but i guess he still has his own agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Tai only won the British final on his home track where he had the track set up for him (including the shovel) would of been good to have seen him at the new venue against very hungry Brits this year. I know several riders feel cheated he won't be racing them in the final. Tai was on the British Final rostrum at Swindon and Poole when still in his teens and as has been pointed out numerous times -- and by numerous people -- has never been dominant at Monmore. Would you care to name these "several riders" who feel "cheated"? Edited July 5, 2016 by Fourentee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Tai was pretty much unbeatable on other tracks and on many he had a better average away from Monmore as proved on here before. He would be unbeatable on bigger tracks Huge PR loss??? Talking absolute tosh. Its bigger PR that he is missing as i explained As explained to Robert72 but i guess he still has his own agenda You would also expect he would not only want to defend his title but to get race time on the new track before the World Cup ? You seriously believe the British final would get more PR without the British world champion? That is laughable Tai was on the British Final rostrum at Swindon and Poole when still in his teens and has been pointed out numerous times -- and by numerous people -- has never been dominant at Monmore. Would you care to name these "several riders" who feel "cheated"? Spoke in confidence so no unless they speak out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 How many, then, and of that number how many potential finalists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Well, over here in Aussie, I took mum out for tea & we had roast pork, vege & gravy. Oh & I think woofy should be in team GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 You would also expect he would not only want to defend his title but to get race time on the new track before the World Cup ? You seriously believe the British final would get more PR without the British world champion? That is laughable Spoke in confidence so no unless they speak out seems to have got quite a bit of attention on this forum due to him not being there!!! Oh and its had quite a few column inches in the national papers as well because he isnt riding. I very much doubt the final would have made the papers before the event if Tai was there , so yes it has had more media coverage due to him not being there!! And i dare say it will get more pr when we have a new winner that isnt Tai!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 as much as i like harris have known him since trelawny days.. he is no captain and couldnt lead us.. his international experience his kit etc etc.. just cannot cope next to Tai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sancho Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I know several riders feel cheated he won't be racing them in the final. I can think of at least 3 riders who are probably glad Tai isn't riding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I can think of at least 3 riders who are probably glad Tai isn't riding I think most will be glad I wouldn't want to have Tai next to me on the start line.. unless I wanted to read what was on the back of his kevlars. from a vast distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) I can think of at least 3 riders who are probably glad Tai isn't ridingI disagree as whoever wins this year will get IF tai was riding you probably wouldn't be British champion and also any rider in the British final who is happy tai isn't riding doesn't have ambition as you have to beat the best to be the best. I think bomber would be a good captain now, he has changed since his early days plus tai is to far up his own rear end to be a good captain. I would love to see a manager change back to middlo too. Edited June 9, 2016 by robert72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Tai Woffinden & Harry Kane, 2 peas, same pod... Except different sports.. Both me, me, me, and erm, me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I disagree as whoever wins this year will get IF tai was riding you probably wouldn't be British champion and also any rider in the British final who is happy tai isn't riding doesn't have ambition as you have to beat the best to be the best. I think bomber would be a good captain now, he has changed since his early days plus tai is to far up his own rear end to be a good captain. I would love to see a manager change back to middlo too. Maybe they should all put out then if Tai isnt riding as there is no point if he isnt there!!!! You come out with some gems! Oh and have you worked out that with Tai not riding it has made the final make news that it wouldnt have done if he had been there? Good PR for the sport getting some headlines and having the British Final talked about in the national press Tai Woffinden & Harry Kane, 2 peas, same pod... Except different sports.. Both me, me, me, and erm, me! Yes they are totally the same with one in an individual sport and the other a team game! Dear oh dear some of the garbage ive read!! Do you think you get to the top be pleasing everyone or by being a little bit selfish in what you do?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Maybe they should all put out then if Tai isnt riding as there is no point if he isnt there!!!! You come out with some gems! Oh and have you worked out that with Tai not riding it has made the final make news that it wouldnt have done if he had been there? Good PR for the sport getting some headlines and having the British Final talked about in the national press Yes they are totally the same with one in an individual sport and the other a team game! Dear oh dear some of the garbage ive read!! Do you think you get to the top be pleasing everyone or by being a little bit selfish in what you do?? I will put my rod away now, very rarely use it.. Not having Tai in the British Final is terrible, whoever wins it will feel deep down (I would think) that if Tai had been there, they wouldn't of won it.. It's happened before when riders have won meetings when one or more superstsar has been absent, it's been talked about on here in the past as well, can't remember which thread it was though.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Maybe they should all put out then if Tai isnt riding as there is no point if he isnt there!!!! You come out with some gems! Oh and have you worked out that with Tai not riding it has made the final make news that it wouldnt have done if he had been there? Good PR for the sport getting some headlines and having the British Final talked about in the national press Yes they are totally the same with one in an individual sport and the other a team game! Dear oh dear some of the garbage ive read!! Do you think you get to the top be pleasing everyone or by being a little bit selfish in what you do?? you really are stupid as you clearly know very little about good PR Tai has selfishly taken away the real glory of whoever wins this year, that person would of wanted to win it with the British number 1 taken part, too think differently shows you have no idea. I think you should stick to being a lily savage lookalike and not discuss the sport you clearly don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Tai should be the World Team captain.. the british final he has riden in and won.. this year he has decided that his other commitments meant he didn't want to ride in it.. I don't think it is damaging to British speedway that we have a world champ who is looking after his kit and himself to help him forge to another world title. I dont think for one second the youngsters think any less of him for that.. he is doing the training schools where youngsters will get time with the man himself.. this is one meeting that he isnt taking part in thats all.. yes the british punters may think ohh noo Tai isnt riding but there is still a good meeting ahead of them crowning a new british champ.. which should be our focus.. I think you thinking with no Tai it... it wont be as good is a terrible thing to say about the riders who are participating in it.. to say no Tai in the GB TEAM is INSANE he is the best british rider by far. I'm sure other riders have other commitments and priorities which are much more important than the British final, but they choose to put British speedway first and compete, without this commitment the British Final would disappear from the calendar, If Tai Woffinden's actions is the start of a watered down British final then its a sad day ! . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I'm sure other riders have other commitments and priorities which are much more important than the British final, but they choose to put British speedway first and compete, without this commitment the British Final would disappear from the calendar, If Tai Woffinden's actions is the start of a watered down British final then its a sad day ! . This post is far too sensible for most to understand but you are spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I'm sure other riders have other commitments and priorities which are much more important than the British final, but they choose to put British speedway first and compete, without this commitment the British Final would disappear from the calendar, If Tai Woffinden's actions is the start of a watered down British final then its a sad day ! . what ever Tai has to do .. he has a choice to either ride it or not.. it isn't a sanctioned event.. it doesn't carry a contractual agreement to it.. so he has a choice.. we are no one to comment on his choice.. I am sure the Final will be a great event and a great success even if Tai isn't in it.. yes I agree to a point it wont be the same but we have to go with what is provided and until riders are told you have to do it or your team gb place is in risk he has that choice.. we do not own Tai we don't have the right to tell him what he should and shouldn't do.. I would love to see him in the final but I don't get the choice and to say if you don't you shouldn't have a team gb place is wrong.. maybe contact the BSPA and advise them of their failings and tell them to order Tai to ride so it will keep you guys happy.. But I also think the other riders that are involved in being the new british champion deserve to be spoken about and to say they will always think they have been given it easy is stupid.. I don't think this will be a cake walk for any rider to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I'm sure other riders have other commitments and priorities which are much more important than the British final, but they choose to put British speedway first and compete, without this commitment the British Final would disappear from the calendar, If Tai Woffinden's actions is the start of a watered down British final then its a sad day ! . Name the riders you are 'sure' have other priorities in speedway that are more important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) you really are stupid as you clearly know very little about good PR Tai has selfishly taken away the real glory of whoever wins this year, that person would of wanted to win it with the British number 1 taken part, too think differently shows you have no idea. I think you should stick to being a lily savage lookalike and not discuss the sport you clearly don't understand. your wrong there because any advert for the british final and the sport as a whole is good. My friend who doesnt follow speedway but knows i do remarked that he saw the world champion wasnt riding in the Daily Mirror! without that he wouldnt have even known there was a British Final! You are a very warped person who simply refuses to comprehend anything anyone else tells you. The British Final this year has had more publicity than for as long as i can remember and part of that is down to Tai NOT being there. You think its taken away the glory??? ha ha you are so foolish Im sure if you ask Scott Nicholls if he wins his 8th title , or Chris Harris his 4th, or Craig Cook his 1st after coming second twice, that the wouldnt celebrate or feel that achievement was undermined because Tai wasnt there Your a bit precious arent you to think your right about all of this. A wide open British Final, without the red hot favourite, on a good track, in a great stadium.............means im travelling to see it rather than watch it on Sky and im sure others are the same. I'm sure other riders have other commitments and priorities which are much more important than the British final, but they choose to put British speedway first and compete, without this commitment the British Final would disappear from the calendar, If Tai Woffinden's actions is the start of a watered down British final then its a sad day ! . Spot on post.............Craig Cook has a family BBQ he isnt going to attend to.................Scott Nicholls has a day trip to Alton Towers planned and the others are all quite upset they would miss Eastenders because of the Bobby Beale storyline but they are putting British Speedway first and doing the British Final........absolute troopers the lot of them This post is far too sensible for most to understand but you are spot on. Sensible!! Knew you wouldnt understand so please name these 'other commitments' .......or you not going to answer the question like you didnt regarding their pay..........oh no hang on you know their commitments because you had a go at speedway once! Name the riders you are 'sure' have other priorities in speedway that are more important. Exactly.........dumb and dumber but Robert72 has a friend now Edited June 9, 2016 by Gavan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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