Should Tai Woffinden Ride For Team Gb ?

[Gemini]

Whilst I am not in agreement with Robert72, I think it's pretty poor for others to be putting up his name and DOB on a public forum if they don't have permission.

It's all been on here before ages ago so he knows we know who he is and he didn't complain back then. Perhaps he's pleased for a bit of publicity after his riding career ended. You seem to know a bit more than me if you know his date of birth so I'd be interested to know so I can work out his star sign. Now which one is argumentative, dogmatic, repetitive and bloody annoying? I'll have a guess at Taurus. Anyway back to the more important matter of what to have for tea.

Edited June 8, 2016 by Gemini

[Fourentee]

Just to bring a little clarity here, Robert72, do you regard your proposed team (whichever one you're settling on for the moment) without Woffinden as "far better" from the standpoint of: Not in the British final then shouldn't have World Cup place; or: Will score more points?

[waiheke1]

Youre going backwards fast, you would pick Lambert over Nicholls if they are of equal ability because Nicholls shunned the World Cup but if Nicholls was significantly better than Lambert you would ditch that argument in favour of Nicholls. Its seems your not one for principles and are just blinded by achievement. While I don't agree with all of Robert72's opinions on Tai Woffinden , he sticks with his principles and doesn't compromise then just cus a guy has 2 World Championships to his name

Disagree entirely, bwitchers logic makes perfect sense. You want to pick the strongest team so you pick the best riders. If it comes down to a 50 50 call you take into account other factors.

[Red Flag]

Just to bring a little clarity here, Robert72, do you regard your proposed team (whichever one you're settling on for the moment) without Woffinden as "far better" from the standpoint of: Not in the British final then shouldn't have World Cup place; or: Will score more points?

Oh don't start making him think

[waiheke1]

 

I think team gb without tai would be far better.

 

Bomber

Craig Cook

Scott Nicholls

Robert Lambert

Josh Bates

 

 

yes, bates clearly should be in the squad ahead of a rider who is likely to be the greatest brit of all time. Clearly anyone who thinks otherwise knows nothing about speedway

 

Tbf, as the reserve has to be u21, if lambert justifies a place in the top 4 then Ellis or bates may be reserve and tai picked ahead of one of the others.

 

 

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So it would be a waste to have Lambert at reserve. that's how I read it.

 

Robert 72 appears to correct in this instance

Explain again how Robert72 is correct and the squad is "far better" with Tai in it?

[Star Lady]

Explain again how Robert72 is correct and the squad is "far better" with Tai in it?

I voiced no opinion as to whether the squad would be better or not. I simply said it would be a waste to use Lambert at reserve and in that regard Robert72 was correct.

[waiheke1]

Robert didn't say it would be a waste to have lambert at reserve? He said he was better than king and hence he would have him in the four, seemingly indicating he thinks he is worse than Harris cook and Nicholls.

[Gavan]

You pick the best 4 riders available is it that hard!! Woffinden and Cook are our best 2 riders then it's any 2 based on opinion from Harris Nicholls and Lambert. And yes Bwitcher is spot on. If Nicholls was miles ahead of Lambert on ability then pick him but I agree that there isn't much between the 2 so then of course other factors come in to play. I've stopped trying to feed the fool that is Robert72 but his posts are so ridiculous I can't help myself!

But a British World Champion Not wanting to take part in the British Final is an insult to British Speedway,the fans & the country, it also loses British speedway money and much needed media attention plus the negativity it will bring for the final don't you understand that?

British speedway should of said to tai you ride in the British final or if you don't then you won't be selected for team GB

hee hee that's got to be the daftest post yet! Have a good read see where your argument falls down! Priceless!

[robert72]

Just to bring a little clarity here, Robert72, do you regard your proposed team (whichever one you're settling on for the moment) without Woffinden as "far better" from the standpoint of: Not in the British final then shouldn't have World Cup place; or: Will score more points?

So What example is tai setting to the young lions about his commitment to the sport in his country, don't worry about the British final kids as if you get good then you can ride in any meeting You choose so sod British speedway and the British fans who would be expecting you to ride in the British final as they can do one as You do what You want to do and you will always be picked for the national team don't worry about that.

 

He is the current world champion and knows his inclusion in the British final would be huge in the media and for ticket sales, tai refusing to ride is damaging British speedway, so Do you reward him with being captain and number 1 or Drop him and get behind the other Brits who are committed to British speedway.

[Mr. Clemens]

What they could do to settle this question for all time and this is only a suggestion!!

But what they could do, while they are holding the EU Referendum, they could put another tick box on the ballot paper which said

Should Tai Woffinden ride for Team GB or should he be able to ride for any beresford he wants as a good European Australian. Remembering as you vote that Australia is now officially part of Europe visa vie the Eurovision song contest.

That should settle it.

 

[bringbackHalifax]

Well I am not a fan of Tai nor do I dislike him.

I think he does a great job for British Speedway by being World Champ.

I am proud to watch the GP as a Brit, whereas in the past I have been embarrassed to see our guy last all the time.

I don't give a hoot whether he rides over here or not on a regular basis as no publicity comes from the league meetings anyway.

But he does raise the profile by being world champ, especially if he does it for a third time.

I hope R.Lambert picks and chooses in the future if it enables him to be world champ.

 

Britain isn't the place to be at the moment, but pls don't think it's rosy in the garden in Poland and Sweden.

 

The next 2 AGM's could pave the way for a changing of the power in the near future as at least we all know we are in the mire, the other two leagues are going to crash spectacularly as they are in denial.

 

Then the guys will need somewhere to race.............

[RPNY]

I've gone through all 41 pages again, still on the fence if the world #1 makes our team or not tho.

[Star Lady]

I've gone through all 41 pages again, still on the fence if the world #1 makes our team or not tho.

 

 

I hope you gained some ideas as to what to have for tea tho

[alkadera]

Drop him and get behind the other Brits who are committed to British speedway.

Scott Nicholls???

[Fourentee]

Just to bring a little clarity here, Robert72, do you regard your proposed team (whichever one you're settling on for the moment) without Woffinden as "far better" from the standpoint of: Not in the British final then shouldn't have World Cup place; or: Will score more points?

 

So What example is tai setting to the young lions about his commitment to the sport in his country, don't worry about the British final kids as if you get good then you can ride in any meeting You choose so sod British speedway and the British fans who would be expecting you to ride in the British final as they can do one as You do what You want to do and you will always be picked for the national team don't worry about that.

 

He is the current world champion and knows his inclusion in the British final would be huge in the media and for ticket sales, tai refusing to ride is damaging British speedway, so Do you reward him with being captain and number 1 or Drop him and get behind the other Brits who are committed to British speedway.

You really struggle with this answering a question thing, don't you?

[Shale Searcher]

it was way back when bo brhel was racing. I remember that as he flew past me on the back straight and he got called off the track whilst a novice (me) was on it!!

 

I thought we may have been on the same one!!! Great experience, great people, loved it...... Ok, just been had dug out a large picture collage of the experience...... Mine, and its dated 11th November 1990, so it could have been the 10th and 11th or the 11th and 12th as it was 2 days....

[dazzafl]

Tai should be the World Team captain..

 

the british final he has riden in and won..

 

this year he has decided that his other commitments meant he didn't want to ride in it.. I don't think it is damaging to British speedway that we have a world champ who is looking after his kit and himself to help him forge to another world title.

 

I dont think for one second the youngsters think any less of him for that.. he is doing the training schools where youngsters will get time with the man himself.. this is one meeting that he isnt taking part in thats all..

 

yes the british punters may think ohh noo Tai isnt riding but there is still a good meeting ahead of them crowning a new british champ.. which should be our focus.. I think you thinking with no Tai it... it wont be as good is a terrible thing to say about the riders who are participating in it..

 

to say no Tai in the GB TEAM is INSANE he is the best british rider by far.

Edited June 9, 2016 by Dazzafl

[Gavan]

So What example is tai setting to the young lions about his commitment to the sport in his country, don't worry about the British final kids as if you get good then you can ride in any meeting You choose so sod British speedway and the British fans who would be expecting you to ride in the British final as they can do one as You do what You want to do and you will always be picked for the national team don't worry about that.

 

He is the current world champion and knows his inclusion in the British final would be huge in the media and for ticket sales, tai refusing to ride is damaging British speedway, so Do you reward him with being captain and number 1 or Drop him and get behind the other Brits who are committed to British speedway.

You need to look at it that this is now the most open field for years at a brilliant new stadium and track.

 

Im going because Tai isnt there more than the other way around. I have to travel from Essex to Manchester and take a day off work to go.

If Tai was riding i more than likely would have saved my money and watched it on the box as he was most certain to win it.

 

So if you think he has lost ticket sales then you are wrong

Its also bigger in the media than if he was riding as it is so open now.

 

Remember when Man Utd pulled out of the FA Cup to play in Brazil?? That recieved far more media attention for the FA cup then they could have dreamed of.

 

To say its damaging for British Speedway is foolish

 

To say he should be dropped from the world cup shows you to be the fool

[robert72]

Tai should be the World Team captain..

 

the british final he has riden in and won..

 

this year he has decided that his other commitments meant he didn't want to ride in it.. I don't think it is damaging to British speedway that we have a world champ who is looking after his kit and himself to help him forge to another world title.

 

I dont think for one second the youngsters think any less of him for that.. he is doing the training schools where youngsters will get time with the man himself.. this is one meeting that he isnt taking part in thats all..

 

yes the british punters may think ohh noo Tai isnt riding but there is still a good meeting ahead of them crowning a new british champ.. which should be our focus.. I think you thinking with no Tai it... it wont be as good is a terrible thing to say about the riders who are participating in it..

 

to say no Tai in the GB TEAM is INSANE he is the best british rider by far.

I honestly don't think tai should be captain of the British team, I think bomber should be captain.

 

Tai only won the British final on his home track where he had the track set up for him (including the shovel) would of been good to have seen him at the new venue against very hungry Brits this year.

 

I know several riders feel cheated he won't be racing them in the final.

 

Keep hearing about training schools but no dates ? Also if he is so busy and too tired to do the British final when would the training schools take place.

 

Talking to a couple of promoters who also feel it is very damaging for British Speedway tai not wanting to ride in it as British world champion and reigning British champion who could of gone on and equaled the all time record of 4 wins in a row,all great for British speedway and the build up to an exciting British final, Tai not riding is a huge loss for decent PR for British Speedway.

 

Oh I do think it looks a very exciting line up for Monday and looking forward to it.

[waiheke1]

The big belle Vue track would suit tai better than monmore, his bikes are far quicker than any other gb rider so the big open spaces would suit him perfectly.

The training schools I assume would happen at the end of the season not during?