robert72 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 And the best way to "gain British sponsors to back speedway in this country" is to remove the country's best rider from the country's team riding the World Cup final in this country? Simply Yes because as the current national champion and world champion he owes it to British speedway and the fans to compete to be British champion and he didn't want it, so why should he be allowed to just pick when he wants to ride and British speedway bow down to him . Dropping tai would be good for British speedway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Simply Yes because as the current national champion and world champion he owes it to British speedway and the fans to compete to be British champion and he didn't want it, so why should he be allowed to just pick when he wants to ride and British speedway bow down to him . Dropping tai would be good for British speedway he"l soon want british fans votes when the award ceremony comes round! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 You somehow seem to think that not selecting Tai for the World Cup is some kind of punishment! It is,if he is passionate about representing his country, which ironically is what Robert claims he is not.Seems Robert is unaware of the paradox between what he states about tai and his proposed "punishment." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 It is,if he is passionate about representing his country, which ironically is what Robert claims he is not. Seems Robert is unaware of the paradox between what he states about tai and his proposed "punishment." Passionate I don't think he is now but he is a monster brand agent who would like to be seen in an international meeting for his sponsors and the World Cup helps promote his sponsors. His only concern is his own personal glory not Britain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) Sorry I just cannot see how dropping Tai gains greater credibility for British Speedway. All it would is emphasize is that many top riders don't want to ride in the UK. Also Tai was riding - and riding well long before he was a Monster sponsored rider. Anyway we'll agree to disagree mate. Edited May 24, 2016 by RPNYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 I see Robert is still banging on with his pathetic crusade??? I think , and im sure Wolves fans will agree, that Tai should do the UK , and basically do what Holder is doing and not try and let the fans down?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 But what is the upside to not having him in the team? We are underdogs anyway, without him we have, in Kenny Carter's words, noooo chance. Wouldn't help get the punters in. A big crowd will be good for Belle Vue and British speedway. But it's all about doing your best, that's what our reps would do. I don't care either if the meeting is a success, unless BV are getting paid to host it, it's a BSI promoted meeting, I want them out of the sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 I see Robert is still banging on with his pathetic crusade??? I think , and im sure Wolves fans will agree, that Tai should do the UK , and basically do what Holder is doing and not try and let the fans down?? You start with saying I am banging on with a pathetic crusade then you are agreeing with me and adding that wolves fans would agree too, I am hurting with laughing. Classic post attack the poster but agree with what is said hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 But it's all about doing your best, that's what our reps would do. I don't care either if the meeting is a success, unless BV are getting paid to host it, it's a BSI promoted meeting, I want them out of the sport Yeah because it's awful seeing the sport staged in front of 50,000 crowds in places like Warsaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Whatever you think of Woffy withdrawing his service from this years British championship, you cannot impose a penalty without first warning that penalties are in place and will be enacted. And I know that this year he announced he wasnt going to do the championship at the very start of the season, BUT it doesnt help any rider, from any country, who has a tight schedule riding abroad, for the ruling powers to select qualifying rounds that essentially clash with a gp. Only an idiot would want to ride a semi final uk championship round the night before a world gp in a country some distance away and miss practice in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Not riding in the British Final had more to do with the semis being Friday and Sunday of a Grand Prix weekend. The BSPA could have seeded him through if they had wanted . The World Cup is about the best team available and that includes Tai in the team. I was disappointed that he left the Elite league but his logic was fine... he needed less meetings in the year Good luck to him in the SGP and hopefuuly the World Cup. Personally I would have seeded him through to the British Final so as not to deprive Britain of seeing him in his home country ans secondly it would have boosted attendance at the British Final. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 You start with saying I am banging on with a pathetic crusade then you are agreeing with me and adding that wolves fans would agree too, I am hurting with laughing. Classic post attack the poster but agree with what is said hehe wow your even thicker than i thought if you cant even understand my post. Holder rides in the uk and grand prix and is clearly not trying over here. My point was is that you say Tai should do the UK. Do you think Wolves fans want him here not trying like he did couple of years back and Holder is doing now? Try reading my original post and then maybe just maybe you might understand what i meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Sorry I just cannot see how dropping Tai gains greater credibility for British Speedway. All it would is emphasize is that many top riders don't want to ride in the UK. Also Tai was riding - and riding well long before he was a Monster sponsored rider. Anyway we'll agree to disagree mate. Tai dictates to British speedway when he wants to ride, no rider should be allowed to disrespect the British final & the British fans . Would the British final be more attractive to the media and the fans with tai racing in it yes or no ? If yes then he should be left out of team gb and that would give the sport as much good publicity leaving the British world champion out as it would with tai chasing the British title as world champion. wow your even thicker than i thought if you cant even understand my post. Holder rides in the uk and grand prix and is clearly not trying over here. My point was is that you say Tai should do the UK. Do you think Wolves fans want him here not trying like he did couple of years back and Holder is doing now? Try reading my original post and then maybe just maybe you might understand what i meant. Your point was is ? Make your mind up lol I am on about the British final catch up Not riding in the British Final had more to do with the semis being Friday and Sunday of a Grand Prix weekend. The BSPA could have seeded him through if they had wanted . The World Cup is about the best team available and that includes Tai in the team. I was disappointed that he left the Elite league but his logic was fine... he needed less meetings in the year Good luck to him in the SGP and hopefuuly the World Cup. Personally I would have seeded him through to the British Final so as not to deprive Britain of seeing him in his home country ans secondly it would have boosted attendance at the British Final. I agree that tai & bomber should of been seeded but tai didn't want to race in the British final as he has already won it 3 times that is my issue, what about the British fans & British speedway that suffers because he didn't want to try for a 4th title,that's why they need to get tough on tai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejam Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) Shame it wasn't for the Ben Fund in march. That's because of his contractual obligations with Betard Sparta Wroclaw If he is told by his employers in Silesia to go to a shopping mall in Wroclaw(rather than riding a speedway bike in the UK) to sign autographs,then that's what he'd have to do.FACT!! Edited May 24, 2016 by bluejam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 I would be surprised if any sportsman's first thought is 'do it for my country' rather than 'do it for myself' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 I would be surprised if any sportsman's first thought is 'do it for my country' rather than 'do it for myself' Surely these brave boys only do it for our entertainment? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 That's because of his contractual obligations with Betard Sparta Wroclaw If he is told by his employers in Silesia to go to a shopping mall in Wroclaw(rather than riding a speedway bike in the UK) to sign autographs,then that's what he'd have to do.FACT!! So he will honor a polish contract but he won't honor the British title, the country that issues his license to race for Wroclaw. He is badly advised simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) Not riding in the British Final had more to do with the semis being Friday and Sunday of a Grand Prix weekend. The BSPA could have seeded him through if they had wanted . The World Cup is about the best team available and that includes Tai in the team. I was disappointed that he left the Elite league but his logic was fine... he needed less meetings in the year Good luck to him in the SGP and hopefuuly the World Cup. Personally I would have seeded him through to the British Final so as not to deprive Britain of seeing him in his home country ans secondly it would have boosted attendance at the British Final. He wouldn't ride if seeded. If you read his statement he talks about the British final in a past tense . Tai has no more need to win or appear in any British final in the future Edited May 24, 2016 by New Science 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 So he will honor a polish contract but he won't honor the British title, the country that issues his license to race for Wroclaw. He is badly advised simple as that you are an absolute pillock. Thought Starman was the forums biggest t0sser but you are overtaking him. Badly advised you moron!!! So badly advised that he has won 2 World titles and is nicely placed to push on for a third. I guess Tai should ride over here in as many meetings as possible and sacrifice the ultimate goal?? Chris Harris backs Tai's decision not to do the British Final when it is placed in such a stupid place in the scheduale. Riders have turned their nose up to their country in the past. Wigg and Cox and Smith and more recently Rico and Nicholls. Yet you fail to mention them at any point. Your a pathetic moron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 you are an absolute pillock. Thought Starman was the forums biggest t0sser but you are overtaking him. Badly advised you moron!!! So badly advised that he has won 2 World titles and is nicely placed to push on for a third. I guess Tai should ride over here in as many meetings as possible and sacrifice the ultimate goal?? Chris Harris backs Tai's decision not to do the British Final when it is placed in such a stupid place in the scheduale. Riders have turned their nose up to their country in the past. Wigg and Cox and Smith and more recently Rico and Nicholls. Yet you fail to mention them at any point. Your a pathetic moron I know why others say your a looney tune and that you think your tough which your not. This post sums you up as an abusive idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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