nw42 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 read my post a bit clearer then mate! I've basically apologised for losing my temper and haven't stoked anything up at all! But precious aren't you! I did read the post 'mate' but you're not reading mine. Your first post back was totally unnecessary unless you were intent on stoking up the fires. Why not just leave the thread alone altogether and move on, you couldn't even contemplate that could you? Your also felt the need to mention 2 other posters who aren't even posting at the moment, what was the point in that? You've been told enough times that it's you who needs to calm down and leave arguing to others but you just carry on regardless. In your shoes I'd be embarrassed if I was told how much of a disruptive influence I am but again you seem oblivious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) I dont think the Final needs him racing in it.. but at least being there would be a sign he is there looking for his possible team mates in the SWC and showing his support. Tai has said that He has done the British Final after winning it 3 times on the bounce and to be really honest after his performance in the SWC I dont think anyone else would win it apart from him as he had way too much speed and none of the guys would get close to him. and going into a meeting thinking best i will get is second is the best way of entering the meeting. of course there could be that one ever chance he may not win but lets be realistic. Hopefully Tai Woffinden will ride in the British Final next year. If not it requires his attendance and input. Tai's ideas may have some foundations but just jetting in on Cardiff weekend and World Cup week won't be sufficient,he needs to be a bit more hands on in Britain than he has been in the past. Its hard to influence change from afar Edited August 7, 2016 by New Science 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Very nice to be back on the forum and see that finally Robert72 has gone and the village fool appears to be missing! Very please to see the abusive troll rightly banned. Having digs at my deceased family members means personally he should be banned for life I have an issue with 2 people on this forum and thankfully both are banned. Robert72 insulted my now deceased aunt and uncle. Sorry but thats lowest of the low and i called him pondlife and vermin. Rightly or wrongly that got me banned Starman is harmless, just a fool who has no idea that the world laughs at him Maybe i should try and control my temper but im sure many of you would react the same if your family members living or deceased were being abused on here read my post a bit clearer then mate! I've basically apologised for losing my temper and haven't stoked anything up at all! But precious aren't you! massive over reaction!!! You got any deceased family members? why are you spoiling for an argument! If you would like to find an aggressive post ive made since ive returned then please do because i havent. In fact please go through the whole forum and you will see the only person i got aggressive with was a low life troll Gavan you've come back on here, and the first half dozen posts you've made contribute nothing, and are just you venting totally unneccesarily. Everyone on here knows what Robetr72 is and what Starman is. But you can be nearly as bad, with your Poole obsession and ability to spend pages and pages simply arguing. You claim to have come on here and "basically apologised" well I can't see any semblance of a genuine apology there, but certainly attempts to re-stoke arguments.And to claim yoou haven't made agressive posts is ludicrorus, I can recall plenty of posts directed at Sidney as another example. I've nothing against you, and you clearly know a fair bit of stuff about speedway, and can make some excellent points. But I haven't missed your tedious arguments with Starman/Robert one bit, and it seems many others feel the same way. Maybe have a think about whether you are on here to debate, or just want to argue, as if it is the latter then you're not really any better than those two forum clowns, and do you really want to drag yourself down to that level? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Gavan you've come back on here, and the first half dozen posts you've made contribute nothing, and are just you venting totally unneccesarily. Everyone on here knows what Robetr72 is and what Starman is. But you can be nearly as bad, with your Poole obsession and ability to spend pages and pages simply arguing. You claim to have come on here and "basically apologised" well I can't see any semblance of a genuine apology there, but certainly attempts to re-stoke arguments.And to claim yoou haven't made agressive posts is ludicrorus, I can recall plenty of posts directed at Sidney as another example. I've nothing against you, and you clearly know a fair bit of stuff about speedway, and can make some excellent points. But I haven't missed your tedious arguments with Starman/Robert one bit, and it seems many others feel the same way. Maybe have a think about whether you are on here to debate, or just want to argue, as if it is the latter then you're not really any better than those two forum clowns, and do you really want to drag yourself down to that level? spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 really you are all having a pop at someone who has been banned already.. thats crazy.. you are all having a pop at him just like Robert72 did.. live and let live whats happened has happened.. lets move on guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 I'm not having a pop at gavan, just suggesting that the way he has returned from his ban is not particularly constructive. He clearly has more to offer the forum than those other two, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered spending 5 minutes of my life posting above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 I'm not having a pop at gavan, just suggesting that the way he has returned from his ban is not particularly constructive. He clearly has more to offer the forum than those other two, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered spending 5 minutes of my life posting above. thats cool.. dont want to be seen as sticking up for anyone or also not having a pop at anyone.. obviously he is going to be annoyed for being banned for sticking up for himself.. we all do things wrong in life but being tarnished when you have already had a punishment is harsh.. anyway should Tai be included in the 2017 british team hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 I got banned because i lost my temper with mainly one member who went way over the line in his remarks. Ok maybe i shouldnt have lost my cool but im sure most would react the same way. My first post back wasnt to wind people up but more to get my side across and yes im happy he has been banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 really you are all having a pop at someone who has been banned already.. thats crazy.. you are all having a pop at him just like Robert72 did.. live and let live whats happened has happened.. lets move on guys That's all we have asked Gavan to do - move on, not keep bringing up old arguments The same applies to anyone else who gets banned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 no one is answering my question.. should Tai be included in the 2017 team.. or do i have to start another massive thread lol.. and if i am honest i dont think we will see Tai back in a british final as in riding in it.. and i also dont think we will see him abck and riding in the UK.. should that stop him from riding for team GB ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 no one is answering my question.. should Tai be included in the 2017 team.. or do i have to start another massive thread lol.. and if i am honest i dont think we will see Tai back in a british final as in riding in it.. and i also dont think we will see him abck and riding in the UK.. should that stop him from riding for team GB ?? you really want to start it all off again In an ideal world no one should be in Team GB unless they commit to the GB league and the British Final, however we don't live in an ideal world. Does that answer your question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 you really want to start it all off again In an ideal world no one should be in Team GB unless they commit to the GB league and the British Final, however we don't live in an ideal world. Does that answer your question nope.. why should it be like that though why should he have to ride in the uk and be in the british final he rides for Britain in the GP series.. which is where he is becoming the best he can be.. why should we hinder him by making that demand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 no one is answering my question.. should Tai be included in the 2017 team.. or do i have to start another massive thread lol.. and if i am honest i dont think we will see Tai back in a british final as in riding in it.. and i also dont think we will see him abck and riding in the UK.. should that stop him from riding for team GB ?? Barring injury it's hard to see tai not being an automatic pick for the next decade at least 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 nope.. why should it be like that though why should he have to ride in the uk and be in the british final he rides for Britain in the GP series.. which is where he is becoming the best he can be.. why should we hinder him by making that demand ? Which is why I said in an ideal world. An ideal world being British league racing paying as much as other leagues and being organised so as to fit into riders schedule. That way patriotic British riders could satisfy British fans without any financial penalty to themselves. Sadly the BSPA and ideal world will never appear in the same sentence (apart from this one ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Which is why I said in an ideal world. An ideal world being British league racing paying as much as other leagues and being organised so as to fit into riders schedule. That way patriotic British riders could satisfy British fans without any financial penalty to themselves. Sadly the BSPA and ideal world will never appear in the same sentence (apart from this one ). ahh get you now.. the thing is where he is riding every race is like a gp race with the rider who ride there.. so he is gaining the most experience out there.. its a very hard one but i dont think which is much the ilk of this thread he shouldnt be included if he doesnt ride in either the league or the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Its very simple Dont put the British semi finals around the time of the GP. The British Final used to be a qualifier to go further in the World Championship. It isnt anymore therefore a GP to the World Champion will be of far more importance than the British Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 To say that you need to ride in your home country to qualify to ride for your country is rather ridiculous. Does Gareth Bale play for a Welsh club? Does Luis Suarez play for a Uruguayan club? Does Lionel Messi play for an Argentinian club? Does Christiano Ronaldo play for a Portuguese club? The answer is no. Tai is no different. That's the end of it so keeping this thread going is pointless. p.s. Dazzafl - yes he should ride for Team GB in 2017 and (barring injuries) for years to come no matter where he plies his trade. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 To say that you need to ride in your home country to qualify to ride for your country is rather ridiculous. Does Gareth Bale play for a Welsh club? Does Luis Suarez play for a Uruguayan club? Does Lionel Messi play for an Argentinian club? Does Christiano Ronaldo play for a Portuguese club? The answer is no. Tai is no different. That's the end of it so keeping this thread going is pointless. p.s. Dazzafl - yes he should ride for Team GB in 2017 and (barring injuries) for years to come no matter where he plies his trade. Very well put. I look forward to seeing Tai wearing Great Britain colours for many years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 My take is that Gavan has something to offer the forum we don't always hit it off but i agree with him also a fair bit.Life would be boring if we all agreed wouldnt it?And my answer for Dazz is Tai will and should be a GB rider for as long as he wants base the team around Tai/Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 One thing i will say is i would be disappointed if he didnt bother with the British Final next year. I can understand this year with scheduling etc and will understand if thats the same next year if he simply cant be bothered i will be dissapointed as i font think thats the mark of someone who wants to help British Speedway, he should still be in team GB though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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