uk_martin Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 The money Manchester Council has put in has to be paid back, probably at a premium? And the real-life difference between that an Polish clubs paying rent on their facilities is...??? As for what the BSPA has done in the last 3 years, from what I can see from the outside, I guess many promoters are shoring up the running of BNL teams and quite possibly their BPL and BEL teams because the fan base and sponsors aren't. As I said before...long range vision restricted to the far end of their own car parks. As for what the BSPA has done in the last 3 years, from what I can see from the outside, I guess many promoters are shoring up the running of BNL teams and quite possibly their As we have seen this weekend, not even the mighty BSI/IMG can get column inches in the tabloids for speedway so what chance does the BSPA stand on that score...clearly the BSPA find that one hard ......although Buster Chapman has a league sponsor lined up for next year apparently or so I have read .... So what is the role these days for Terry Russell and SlowSpeed International Ltd? I thought that they were the contracted agency responsible for generating collective sponsorship deals and national publicity. He creams off 40% of the Sky money and does rugger ball for the rest of the year. Why is Dick Dastardley doing the barking when he's got a dog there that should be doing it for him... And talking of Dick Dastardley, where's Mutley these days? Did he get hacked off with the BSPA too by any chance? I'll never be in a position to join the inner circle of the BSPA, unless I win the lottery ha, so will never know why certain things are done or not done, I'll just keep supporting my team, enjoying the racing and flying the flag And good on ya for doing that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) The thing is Poland is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe.Ok,they are not quite in the Nigeria or Sudan league in world terms,but corruption runs through the whole system even into sport.Just like we have recently seen with Russia(and the suspicions are that with the Togliatti boss being gunned down on the street,speedway is also involved)it is hard to be envious of one small aspect of a country when you see what is involved.Of course we can look at the stadiums and wish we had them,but if it means all the other things invlved then honestly i'd rather have a decent country and run of the mill facilities/leagues.Poland it seems are happy taking EU development money,but don't want to make the social reforms the EU require.If that happens,i wonder if the whole speedway pack of cards will fall......This is something of the ilk I wanted UK Martin to admit. And the real-life difference between that an Polish clubs paying rent on their facilities is...??? As I said before...long range vision restricted to the far end of their own car parks. So what is the role these days for Terry Russell and SlowSpeed International Ltd? I thought that they were the contracted agency responsible for generating collective sponsorship deals and national publicity. He creams off 40% of the Sky money and does rugger ball for the rest of the year. Why is Dick Dastardley doing the barking when he's got a dog there that should be doing it for him... And talking of Dick Dastardley, where's Mutley these days? Did he get hacked off with the BSPA too by any chance? And good on ya for doing that! Do the Polish clubs pay rent on their facilities though? I haven't a clue what the Russells do for their cut apart from being involved at Swindon and doing stuff on Sky nights. You've got the chance to ask Alun Rossiter on the EDP podcast all these questions if you like ...... Long range vision, surely BV is long range vision for one? Of course being a top rider isn't all about fast engines, it's the complete package, all riders know that, some are more talented, more clever, more ruthless, richer, have the gift of the gab, are more single minded and so on than others and all make a difference. Edited August 1, 2016 by Trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 This is the first chance I've had to come online since Saturday's fantastic SWC Final. I'd just like to echo many of you on here and say a huge well done to Tai and the rest of the boys for an outstanding effort. So as we all (well most of us) have stated from the outset, YES Tai should have ridden for Team GB and he's now proven things. Without him we would most definitely have come last. For me he was ultra professional throughout on Saturday and it was clear to see that he rides for GB with a huge amount of pride so that's gotta be the biggest custard pie ever in the face of the forums currently absent porky pier! LOVE IT! p.s. Doyley's comments were very disappointing, if Team GB were 'very weak' then the Aussies must be woeful...which we know they're not. Rather silly thing to have said. Yes of course Tai should have been a first GB pick, performed superb and interviewed well. Definitely appeared a different approach. However your gloating that it proved someone wrong is incorrect to the initial question / opinion. The question was 'should', not 'could'. His ability to perform was never in doubt or challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 You've not been whooshed have you? Seriously? Uh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 Uh? If you read the posts prior to mine they were all in jest (mine included)...basically joking about those who keep posting on thread complaining people are posting.. I wasn't sure the first time if you were partaking in said jest or if you'd got the wrong end of the stick so to speak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) Yes of course Tai should have been a first GB pick, performed superb and interviewed well. Definitely appeared a different approach. However your gloating that it proved someone wrong is incorrect to the initial question / opinion. The question was 'should', not 'could'. His ability to perform was never in doubt or challenged. WTF are you banging on about? After all of the absolute nonsense the serial liar was posting I make a passing comment that he now has a custard pie in his mushki which you perceive as gloating? He stated numerous times he shouldn't (NOT couldn't) be riding for Team GB so I have no idea what point you're 'trying' to make. Edited August 3, 2016 by chris4gillian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 If you read the posts prior to mine they were all in jest (mine included)...basically joking about those who keep posting on thread complaining people are posting.. I wasn't sure the first time if you were partaking in said jest or if you'd got the wrong end of the stick so to speak... I was with you all the way BW, just didn't understand your last post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I was with you all the way BW, just didn't understand your last post Ah my bad, I thought you'd had a Starman moment briefly! I was the one who was whooshed then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 WTF are you banging on about? After all of the absolute nonsense the serial liar was posting I make a passing comment that he now has a custard pie in his mushki which you perceive as gloating? He stated numerous times he shouldn't (NOT couldn't) be riding for Team GB so I have no idea what point you're 'trying' to make. Ha ha, nice one. You couldn't make it up. The answers are all in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) Same as that Shawn. I didn't like Crump or Nicki Pedersen for years, but grew to be fans of both. I put Woffinden in the same bracket as these two, in fact there's many similar traits! But I am warming to him, can't deny that he is a fantastic to watch on track, and despite what anyone says, he is British, wants to ride for Team GB and at the moment is pretty much flying that Union Jack single handedly on the interrnational stage. Will the BSPA take any notice of him and how he wants to take Team GB and British speedway forward? I doubt it, too many vested interests in their own business and not enough longterm outlook - been the same for decades, and has driven the sport into a downwards spirals in this country. It's a shame, because whatever he's done, it's obviously worked and isn't just about fast engines. Was an interview with Woffinden during/after the final on Saturday where he stated the Brits got together at the start of the season for a meal and one of the riders stated that training etc. wasn't required, just the will to win - be interesting to find out who that was and whether they made the team for Saturday's final. Seems like it's not just the BSPA singing from his hymn sheet too though. Edit: Did you see the photo's on facebook of the little girl he took onto the rostrum tucked up in bed with her medal still round her neck and that massive grin still on her face? That is priceless and one of the things I love most about this sport. Doesn't matter whether they're a PL reserve of a world champ, riders still interact at a very personal level with the fans, you don't see that in many other sports these days. The same for me different eras i know, i was never a Hans Nielsen fan more so because of the Ole/Erik/Knudsen incidents also Tai came into that category .But both i ended up changing my mind over, Tai how he kickstarted his career to another level it has been brilliant to see. Edited August 3, 2016 by Sidney the robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I must admit as a critic of Woffinden I have sum-what warmed to him a little after World Cup Week.Not just for his riding on the track but his role in leading from the front , his general demean-er and the way he conducted himself.I also encourage his thoughts on how Team Gb can progress although I feel some of the ideas will require funding and time which may not be available. My only request would be for the Bspa and Tai to put their heads together to find a way that Tai can ride in .the British Final. The final needs the GB captain on so many fronts, If this means moving it forward maybe before Sweden or even Poland starts then so be it,there must be a way , 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Ha ha, nice one. You couldn't make it up. The answers are all in there. I'm glad I'm not living on the same planet as you fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I'm glad I'm not living on the same planet as you fella. No worries - Pleased I made you feel positive. Pay it forward.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 I must admit as a critic of Woffinden I have sum-what warmed to him a little after World Cup Week.Not just for his riding on the track but his role in leading from the front , his general demean-er and the way he conducted himself.I also encourage his thoughts on how Team Gb can progress although I feel some of the ideas will require funding and time which may not be available. My only request would be for the Bspa and Tai to put their heads together to find a way that Tai can ride in .the British Final. The final needs the GB captain on so many fronts, If this means moving it forward maybe before Sweden or even Poland starts then so be it,there must be a way , I dont think the Final needs him racing in it.. but at least being there would be a sign he is there looking for his possible team mates in the SWC and showing his support. Tai has said that He has done the British Final after winning it 3 times on the bounce and to be really honest after his performance in the SWC I dont think anyone else would win it apart from him as he had way too much speed and none of the guys would get close to him. and going into a meeting thinking best i will get is second is the best way of entering the meeting. of course there could be that one ever chance he may not win but lets be realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Where's robert72 and his clique when you need them.... http://speedwaygp.com/news/article/5104/rosco-hails-lion-woffy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 After very much enjoying riding in Manchester last week, I'd hope that he would be more keen to ride in the BF next year. That and some better planning from the BSPA, it SHOULD be easy to sort out. But when has it ever been easy in this sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Very nice to be back on the forum and see that finally Robert72 has gone and the village fool appears to be missing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Very please to see the abusive troll rightly banned. Having digs at my deceased family members means personally he should be banned for life 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Very please to see the abusive troll rightly banned. Having digs at my deceased family members means personally he should be banned for life Have I missed something. Who? I agree with your second sentence too. Totally unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Have I missed something. Who? I agree with your second sentence too. Totally unacceptable. Robert72 I assume he means. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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