robert72 Posted June 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 for gods sake man will you effing well get it in that numbskull head of yours!!! It isnt an opinion to say that the reason he didn't ride in the British Final was because of the dates of the semi final!!!! IT IS FACT and you are either trolling by keep bringing up the final or your just an idiot so you tell me which Where is your proof it's a fact ? Your insults are getting boring now and it clearly shows your full of aggression when people don't see it your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Which begs the question should the BSPA schedule the British Final or any other shared event for the convenience of a couple British riders or for the majority who do not have the opportunity to earn bucks or mega bucks abroad or in GPs. Just trying to introduce a different direction for the thread. I take the point, but if the thrust of the argument for some posters is that the importance/PR success of the event is diminished by the absence of certain riders, then presumably it makes sense to do what one can, within reason, to give those riders the chance to appear. As to the second issue, all riders have the opportunity to earn abroad or in GPs. Not all have the ability to do so. And, yes, before anyone points it out, Woffinden had the benefit of wildcard selections initially but that is surely more of an indictment of the level of British talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Did Tai Woffinden declare he wouldn't ride in the British Final in January before the dates were known? NO. Did Tai Woffinden ride in the semi finals then declare he wouldn't do the final? NO. Did Tai Woffinden pull out when the semi final dates were announced? YES. People keep banging on about Tai missing the British Final. Missing the British Final was not the issue it was the timing of the semi finals. For all we know if the dates were different he may have rode in the semi finals. As soon as the dates of the semis were announced he pulled out. He could have pulled out earlier but didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Did Tai Woffinden declare he wouldn't ride in the British Final in January before the dates were known? NO. Did Tai Woffinden ride in the semi finals then declare he wouldn't do the final? NO. Did Tai Woffinden pull out when the semi final dates were announced? YES. People keep banging on about Tai missing the British Final. Missing the British Final was not the issue it was the timing of the semi finals. For all we know if the dates were different he may have rode in the semi finals. As soon as the dates of the semis were announced he pulled out. He could have pulled out earlier but didn't What do you expect him to say in jan etc .....I am pulling because I don't want to ride so stuff the uk fans ...the point that people are saying is that make something up when the real reason was he does care enough to ride ...not saying that is true is just and opinion just like yours is it's not a fact . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Like I said before he is badly advised, Indeed, you've also told us he's a multi millionaire. Awful advice he's been getting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Indeed, you've also told us he's a multi millionaire. Awful advice he's been getting. He is set up for life now,so he should be looking to set records not make excuses and turn his back on the British fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 How does ride in Gp's outside Sweden and Poland if he has no bikes in any country ? Because Tai has his GP team plus GP BIkes 3-4 of them then he has a seperate team with seperate bikes that do the swedish and polish league.. NOTHING IN THE UK AS HE DOESNT RIDE HERE.... ( made capitlas so you can understand the point ) and its fact because Tai himself has said he doesnt have any bikes in this country.. its pointless having bikes here he wont use them he has no need for them.. He is set up for life now,so he should be looking to set records not make excuses and turn his back on the British fans. he hasn not turned his back on british fans.. for god sake.. get off that horse pal he will be there to greet british fans at the cardiff GP i am sure and he is riding with the british flag and riding for this country cant you understand there are several reasons why him not being in the final listen to them instead of having your blinkered view of the guy.. or alternativley go to cardiff and have your say with him personally.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) He is set up for life now,so he should be looking to set records not make excuses and turn his back on the British fans. Your counters have been p*ss poor for a while , but you are clutching at any straw you can now. He could go on and win both the World and British title another 5 or 6 times… Edited June 23, 2016 by The Mockingjay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Because Tai has his GP team plus GP BIkes 3-4 of them then he has a seperate team with seperate bikes that do the swedish and polish league.. NOTHING IN THE UK AS HE DOESNT RIDE HERE.... ( made capitlas so you can understand the point ) and its fact because Tai himself has said he doesnt have any bikes in this country.. its pointless having bikes here he wont use them he has no need for them.. he hasn not turned his back on british fans.. for god sake.. get off that horse pal he will be there to greet british fans at the cardiff GP i am sure and he is riding with the british flag and riding for this country cant you understand there are several reasons why him not being in the final listen to them instead of having your blinkered view of the guy.. or alternativley go to cardiff and have your say with him personally.. So what your saying is that he had No intention of riding in the British final even if the dates were different as he has no bikes here. Like I said tai is badly advised and that's why he is a marmite kid. Your counters have been p*ss poor for a while , but you are clutching at any straw you can now. He could go on and win both the World and British title another 5 or 6 times… He says he is done with the British title as he wants to let others have a chance of winning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 So what your saying is that he had No intention of riding in the British final even if the dates were different as he has no bikes here. Like I said tai is badly advised and that's why he is a marmite kid. He says he is done with the British title as he wants to let others have a chance of winning it. thick as rubbish aren't you. Its the semi finals that were the issue but in that little head of yours you cant accept it. How do you think he will do the World Cup over here???? The dates are when there is no domestic speedway so he has time to get his bikes here!!! stop being such a plank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 So what your saying is that he had No intention of riding in the British final even if the dates were different as he has no bikes here. He says he is done with the British title as he wants to let others have a chance of winning it. point 1... if the dates were different and he didnt miss the semi's i would say he may well of done.. if it was feasable to get his bikes here and ride in both the semi's and final he would have done it i am pretty sure.. but as he couldnt do the semi's as has been previously said many many times yet you cant seem to grasp it.. he didnt make the semi's due to a fixture clash.. he wouldnt take a final place wildcard as he had not deserved it as he had not riden the semi's... and point 2.. can you provide proof he said he is done with the british title.. yes he said he wanted the guys who havent won it a chance to win it and gain their chance to ride the Cardiff GP on their own merit which i think when you have wont it 3 times on the bounce is an honourable thing to do.. his kit and experience far out weighs the rest of the competition and his engines would have loved that track... high horse power.. either way you dont like him and will keep going on and on about him turning his back on the UK.. i really hope you get to have your say to him direct but i still fear you will disagree with him even if he told you direct... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 He is set up for life now,so he should be looking to set recordsMoney aside, I agree. The legacy of the history books calls. It's clearly a tough ask to get up to the Mauger/Rickardsson half-dozen, but obviously Tai has two in the bag already and looks a genuine contender, at worst, for a third this year. And at 25, injury and willingness permitting, time is on his side. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Because Tai has his GP team plus GP BIkes 3-4 of them then he has a seperate team with seperate bikes that do the swedish and polish league.. NOTHING IN THE UK AS HE DOESNT RIDE HERE.... ( made capitlas so you can understand the point ) and its fact because Tai himself has said he doesnt have any bikes in this country.. its pointless having bikes here he wont use them he has no need for them.. he hasn not turned his back on british fans.. for god sake.. get off that horse pal he will be there to greet british fans at the cardiff GP i am sure and he is riding with the british flag and riding for this country cant you understand there are several reasons why him not being in the final listen to them instead of having your blinkered view of the guy.. or alternativley go to cardiff and have your say with him personally.. Which reinforces the point that he is able to transport equipment to the UK for Cardiff and still have equipment in Poland for the next day. This is no different to having equipment in the UK on Friday and racing in the Polish GP on Saturday. Or are you suggesting his bikes circle Europe in two vans which are never or it could never be arranged for them to be in the same place at any time? It's an excuse. I believe he simply decided it wasn't a priority for him which he is entitled to do but I disagree with the decision because of the impact upon the British Championship and fellow riders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Which reinforces the point that he is able to transport equipment to the UK for Cardiff and still have equipment in Poland for the next day. This is no different to having equipment in the UK on Friday and racing in the Polish GP on Saturday. Or are you suggesting his bikes circle Europe in two vans which are never or it could never be arranged for them to be in the same place at any time? It's an excuse. I believe he simply decided it wasn't a priority for him which he is entitled to do but I disagree with the decision because of the impact upon the British Championship and fellow riders. i would also suggest his GP bikes are different to his league bikes. no matter how you look at it he couldnt of had bikes in this country for either the semi's or the final.. the GP is a requirement and so are his league duties in sweden and poland.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Which reinforces the point that he is able to transport equipment to the UK for Cardiff and still have equipment in Poland for the next day. This is no different to having equipment in the UK on Friday and racing in the Polish GP on Saturday. Or are you suggesting his bikes circle Europe in two vans which are never or it could never be arranged for them to be in the same place at any time? It's an excuse. I believe he simply decided it wasn't a priority for him which he is entitled to do but I disagree with the decision because of the impact upon the British Championship and fellow riders. Oh for goodness sakes, do people really believe he hasn't got any equipment here, he lives here, can't u remember that huge shed that his Dad started building, u think that is full of nothing these days? lol His tuner is based here etc etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 i would also suggest his GP bikes are different to his league bikes. no matter how you look at it he couldnt of had bikes in this country for either the semi's or the final.. the GP is a requirement and so are his league duties in sweden and poland.. Suggest you read my post again. Cardiff proves he could have Oh for goodness sakes, do people really believe he hasn't got any equipment here, he lives here, can't u remember that huge shed that his Dad started building, u think that is full of nothing these days? lol His tuner is based here etc etc Careful, everyone knows it's impossible. He couldn't simply have transported/built a bike in the UK at some point given the time he had, maybe got a certain tuner here to help him (PJR), that would've been impossible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) Suggest you read my post again. Cardiff proves he could have suggest you re read mine... its a GP his bikes have to be in this country.. Oh for goodness sakes, do people really believe he hasn't got any equipment here, he lives here, can't u remember that huge shed that his Dad started building, u think that is full of nothing these days? lol His tuner is based here etc etc i know he hasnt got any bikes in this country.. his tuner may well be here.. but he doesnt have any bikes in this country. He couldn't simply have transported/built a bike in the UK at some point given the time he had, maybe got a certain tuner here to help him (PJR), that would've been impossible. yeah he could do that couldnt he.. haha.. some people really need to think things through time.. travelling etc.. didnt ride in the semi's really please try a bit harder.. Edited June 23, 2016 by Dazzafl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Suggest you read my post again. Cardiff proves he could have Careful, everyone knows it's impossible. He couldn't simply have transported/built a bike in the UK at some point given the time he had, maybe got a certain tuner here to help him (PJR), that would've been impossible. "We've got a job for you Speedy, it's in another country... you'll have to get the equipment there for it. That'll cost you a couple of grand, but don't worry we'll pay you £100 for it". I'm sure you'd be rushing to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 What a pointless toipic !! Tai wants to ride in the World Cup ... I am sure Rossiter will want him to ride, The vast majority of British Speedway supporters will want him to ride. The British Final and the World Cup are separate entities... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackie Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 No, please don't stop it now. It's priceless. Woffinden is apparently an ill advised multi-millionaire who, if he was a true Brit would be more interested in gaining British Final titles rather than world titles individually or otherwise. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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