foreverblue Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Maybe unlikely but what if gifting belle vue a point cost coventry a play off spot? What if it cost another team a play off spot, you never know stranger things have happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Maybe we just wanted to help Belle Vue challenge for a top 4 spot knowing we have an advantage over them. If it was me I'd have picked King and Bomber but it the grand scheme of things it shouldn't matter. Thought there was some good entertainment last night and passes throughout, Joonas had to work hard for his points! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lee Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Good Meeting, but the only problem tonight was with the starting gates where 1&3 were significantly worse than gates 2 & 4 - 32 points against 58, hence the main reason why everyone had middling scores, Gate 1 in particular was awful. Â Nice to see a bit of new shale on the track and congratulations to Margaret Vardy who completed the main match by 9pm. A healthy crowd as well, Belle Vue are always a good draw, so everything is looking good for the Bees. Â Good point about the gates - 10 wins off gate 4, none off 1. As someone else mentioned, can't remember a match where no rider got double figures, but the gate imbalance might explain that. Â I thought the ref blotted her copybook in heat 11 when Robbo got a flyer and she called an unsatisfactory start. He didn't jump or roll, he just anticipated well and that shouldn't be penalised. In the re-start, Nicholls did the same, and she let it go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Danny King gives his opinions on the track last night including the graveyard gate 1. I hope they get it sorted fast as need to be even better at home than away. Â http://www.coventrybees.co/news.php?extend.3122 Â I would like to see Belle Vue make top 4, yes partly because it's our best away track but also because I like their team. However they have so far gained 4points from an available 22points. That leaves them a big task even at this early stage. Edited April 25, 2015 by mdmc82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee 26 Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Had no tannoy on bends 1 & 2 for most of the meeting so didn't have to put up with Yorkie bleating out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 A mighty strange one putting Kylmakorpi and King in Heat 15 and that cost the Bees! Â BTW - I liked the ginger one in Girls Aloud - well actually I liked them all Not fussed on the one who sounds like a geordie but acts like a yank...name escapes me...seen her about on one or two things...apparently not fussed on cloakroom attendents.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 I really don't like the new rule for the points. If one team is gaining points, the other team should be losing them. It's a nonsense that the home team can go into the last race with nothing to race for points wise, but the away team can still gain a point... Correct ...anyone know the reason why they did change it ? must be some logic . As I have said the home side don't really look like they care about the away side getting a point thus far . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Had no tannoy on bends 1 & 2 for most of the meeting so didn't have to put up with Yorkie bleating out! I almost popped round to the turnstiles to give them an extra £2 for the entrance fee ,as I thought it was worth it when the speakers went off around the first bend. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) A nice win for the Bee`s. It was a bit disappointing to give the Ace`s a point but at least we didn`t lose ..Whilst its nice to have a few jingles I doubt very much it will be Micks priority ringing round DJ`s. Its about providing entertainment on the track that matters most, thats what brings the fans in. Edited April 25, 2015 by dornier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Correct ...anyone know the reason why they did change it ? must be some logic . As I have said the home side don't really look like they care about the away side getting a point thus far .The logic is-as far as the BSPA said - is that home fans were going home disappointed with winning a match but dropping a point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) The logic is-as far as the BSPA said - is that home fans were going home disappointed with winning a match but dropping a point. If that is the thinking and logic of the bspa it does make people wonder if someone else ought to be in charge of making up the rules etc. The old scoring system meant that both teams raced right to the end of the meeting if there was a possibility of losing or gaining a point. Edited April 25, 2015 by A ORLOV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Loads of you seem to be being mighty disrespectful saying the Bees gifted BV a point. So you know for sure that BV weren't capable of getting a 5-1 against anyone else? Let's see, Andersen & Harris both on 7 from 4, King on 7+1 from 4 and Kylmakorpi 7+2 from 4. Surely they just used the highest scorers in the 1-5? Whatever, it was good to finish nice and promptly on a decent evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 I really don't like the new rule for the points. If one team is gaining points, the other team should be losing them. It's a nonsense that the home team can go into the last race with nothing to race for points wise, but the away team can still gain a point... Agreed, there is fiddling potential for later in the season too if a team wants to face / avoid a particular side in the Play Offs for example. Probably why the rule change was adopted. Some of our governing bodies decision making really does make me despair sometimes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G the Bee Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Loads of you seem to be being mighty disrespectful saying the Bees gifted BV a point. So you know for sure that BV weren't capable of getting a 5-1 against anyone else? Â Let's see, Andersen & Harris both on 7 from 4, King on 7+1 from 4 and Kylmakorpi 7+2 from 4. Surely they just used the highest scorers in the 1-5? Â Whatever, it was good to finish nice and promptly on a decent evening. I don't think its a disrespect thing. But it is a fair observation. Â My take on it is that under last year's system, if league points had been at stake, I'd have bet we'd have seen Hans and Harris. Havvy would have gone for his big guns. And that's what irritates me a little. We got the points in the bag and, being as our top for had all scored similar points, eased our foot off the gas and gave the lower ranked riders a run out in heat 15. Â I personally think that in any sport, you don't give the opposition a sniff of taking anything from a meeting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Thanks for the gift guys 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 I don't think its a disrespect thing. But it is a fair observation. Â My take on it is that under last year's system, if league points had been at stake, I'd have bet we'd have seen Hans and Harris. Havvy would have gone for his big guns. And that's what irritates me a little. We got the points in the bag and, being as our top for had all scored similar points, eased our foot off the gas and gave the lower ranked riders a run out in heat 15. Â I personally think that in any sport, you don't give the opposition a sniff of taking anything from a meeting. Â Exactly! I just hope it doesn't come back to bite us.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) The only downside was the tannoy playing up again and wasn't working for half of the match on the 3rd/4th bend.Downside not being able to hear Yorkie's scripted patter? If that is the thinking and logic of the bspa it does make people wonder if someone else ought to be in charge of making up the rules etc. The old scoring system meant that both teams raced right to the end of the meeting if there was a possibility of losing or gaining a point.The whole sport is geared up for home wins, just take a look at the league table with only Cov and Poole having away wins before Wolves freak win at Arena last night. That's why it's not a proper sport... keeps the home punters happy though which is all promoter running a business is happy about I suppose I'm quick enough to slag the racing off at Cov, so I thought I'd say how good I thought it was last night with lots of passing and close racing, easily the best I've seen at Cov for the last couple of years or so Edited April 25, 2015 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Zagar and Nicholls had just scored a 4-2 over Andersen and Harris in heat 13 and as had been pointed out, they had, in total, scored no more than King and Kylmakorpi. It was a perfectly reasonable decision to put the latter two in heat 15 based on their performance. Â I take the comments from the Coventry management about their charitable intentions as being intended as no more than a joke and perhaps an attempt to try to cover up the fact that their decision didn't work out. Â No team is going deliberately to gift another team a point. The suggestions about helping them to get into the play offs is ridiculous. Nobody can anticipate at this stage of the season what the position will be in September. Hopefully, not but by then teams may have been decimated by injuries or riders been replaced making a team much stronger. Edited April 25, 2015 by Aces51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G the Bee Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Zagar and Nicholls had just scored a 4-2 over Andersen and Harris in heat 13 and as had been pointed out, they had, in total, scored no more than King and Kylmakorpi. It was a perfectly reasonable decision to put the latter two in heat 15 based on their performance. I take the comments from the Coventry management about their charitable intentions as being intended as no more than a joke and perhaps an attempt to try to cover up the fact that their decision didn't work out. No team is going deliberately to gift another team a point. The suggestions about helping them to get into the play offs is ridiculous. Nobody can anticipate at this stage of the season what the position will be in September. Hopefully, not but by then teams may have been decimated by injuries or riders been replaced making a team much stronger. You are clearly sticking up for your team. Good on you. But you are clutching at straws. The 4:2 in heat 13 was with Bees off the graveyard 1 and 3. A 4:2 to the Aces again in heat 15 would have seen them leave with nothing. And let's not forget Aces were off 1 and 3 in heat 15.  I suspect Chris Morton thought all his birthdays had come at once when he saw Havvy's heat 15 choices. Edited April 25, 2015 by G the Bee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 You are clearly sticking up for your team. Good on you. But you are clutching at straws. Â The 4:2 in heat 13 was with Bees off the graveyard 1 and 3. A 4:2 to the Aces again in heat 15 would have seen them leave with nothing. And let's not forget Aces were off 1 and 3 in heat 15. Â I suspect Chris Morton thought all his birthdays had come at once when he saw Havvy's heat 15 choices. But, for the first two laps, Belle Vue were going to get nothing out of the meeting until the ever-trying Joonas messed up on the third turn trying hard to catch Zagar. Credit to Joonas for not just settling for second place. Â ATB Â Dave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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