mdmc82 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 @Lakesidehammers: Leicester number 1 Jason Doyle will guest for Andreas Jonsson for the away meeting against Wolverhampton Wolves on 20th April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Nice to see the return of a GP star to Monmore then. Not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Nice to see the return of a GP star to Monmore then. Not! Jason Doyle is a GP star! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Jason Doyle is a GP star! He is not returning though like AJ was after a long time away. Seems a bit strange that AJ and Doyle will ride in the same GP on Saturday and both will possibly ride on Sunday in Poland on the Sunday but only one will be fit to ride on the Monday in Britain ? Lawson and Bech have never really done too much at Monmore Green with Lawson 7+1 twice as a second string last season and Bech 7+1 and 5 with his best score as a heat leader but from five rides.and both rode in the meeting when Bomber guested for Tai and only scored 2 points. Last season Lakeside lost 48-42 at Monmore in the first meeting with PK, Davey Watt and Steve Worrall as their top three scorers while in the second meeting when Harris guested they won 46-44 with Davey Watt top scoring and Adam Ellis getting 9 at reserve against Jacobs and Perry but with Lewis Blackbird and Josh Bates it wont be as easy this time. Wolves to be comfortable winners here I think and a 54-39 scoreline with Doyle top scorer for Hammers and a solid showing from all the Wolves team with Wells and Thorssell again doing well at WV2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Is there a good reason for AJ's absence or is there some pee taking going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Is there a good reason for AJ's absence or is there some pee taking going on? This will always happen while GP riders are a law to themselves ,wouldn't mind in most cases they hardly pull any trees up when they do ride in the league because they fear injury and/or they have their best kit fo the GP's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Is there a good reason for AJ's absence or is there some pee taking going on? He is injured. However if he rides on Saturday then he should be riding on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Is there a good reason for AJ's absence or is there some pee taking going on? He has injured his knee. No idea how bad it is so we are not in a position to judge his fitness. One can understand a rider riding in a GP when carrying an injury, especially the first of the season when even two or three points could potentially be crucial to final placings at the end of the year. It's difficult to say whether he should or shouldn't be riding on Monday but everything we know about AJ suggests that he is not a micky taker, unlike your average Pole (Swiderski and Skornivki excepted). The thing about riding in Polznd is that he doesn't have to make a decision until tha last minute, as they have enough in the squad to put someone else in, plus he has a base in Poland and won't have to catch a flight home at some unearthly hour. In GB though, you can't really fly in in some Ryanair cattle truck with a dodgy knee then decide at the last minute you can't ride then expect a suitable guest to be dredged up at a moments notice. I don't think Doyley has ever guested for Lakeside so it with be interesting to see how he goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) He has injured his knee. No idea how bad it is so we are not in a position to judge his fitness. One can understand a rider riding in a GP when carrying an injury, especially the first of the season when even two or three points could potentially be crucial to final placings at the end of the year. It's difficult to say whether he should or shouldn't be riding on Monday but everything we know about AJ suggests that he is not a micky taker, unlike your average Pole (Swiderski and Skornivki excepted). The thing about riding in Polznd is that he doesn't have to make a decision until tha last minute, as they have enough in the squad to put someone else in, plus he has a base in Poland and won't have to catch a flight home at some unearthly hour. In GB though, you can't really fly in in some Ryanair cattle truck with a dodgy knee then decide at the last minute you can't ride then expect a suitable guest to be dredged up at a moments notice. I don't think Doyley has ever guested for Lakeside so it with be interesting to see how he goes. To me your either injury or your not ...the bit I don't understand is why Lakeside did not wait intill Monday morning ? Just say Aj injured and Doyle going to replace him , then no one bats a eyelid rather than doing it this way and people pointing fingers . Edited April 16, 2015 by orion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bees_Man Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Should be no facility. Bet he rides in Poland Sunday too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) He has injured his knee. No idea how bad it is so we are not in a position to judge his fitness. One can understand a rider riding in a GP when carrying an injury, especially the first of the season when even two or three points could potentially be crucial to final placings at the end of the year. It's difficult to say whether he should or shouldn't be riding on Monday but everything we know about AJ suggests that he is not a micky taker, unlike your average Pole (Swiderski and Skornivki excepted). The thing about riding in Polznd is that he doesn't have to make a decision until tha last minute, as they have enough in the squad to put someone else in, plus he has a base in Poland and won't have to catch a flight home at some unearthly hour. In GB though, you can't really fly in in some Ryanair cattle truck with a dodgy knee then decide at the last minute you can't ride then expect a suitable guest to be dredged up at a moments notice. I don't think Doyley has ever guested for Lakeside so it with be interesting to see how he goes. I have no qualms about him riding in the GP tbh, but if he rides in Poland then he is taking the p*** and no facility should be granted. Squads etc are irrelevant. As for 'Ryanair cattle truck', neglible difference between Ryanair planes and any other.. except of course a hell of a lot cheaper and on time far more often. If he wants extra leg room, pay £5 and he has it... so no excuse their either. Edited April 16, 2015 by BWitcher 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 http://www.lakesidehammers.co/aj-fitness-race/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I have no qualms about him riding in the GP tbh, but if he rides in Poland then he is taking the p*** and no facility should be granted. Squads etc are irrelevant. Fair enough taking his place in the GP if he is injured. The acid test will be if he then rides in Poland on Sunday and "aggravates" the injury and cant take his place at Wolves. Under no circumstances should a facility be allowed in that scenario 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 http://www.lakesidehammers.co/aj-fitness-race/ Think they are a month behind on that statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I guess the post-dated medical certificate is already in JC's hands?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Should be no facility. Bet he rides in Poland Sunday too. If he is able to ride in Poland then should be no facility Mon unless he's reported for withholding his services to Lakeside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Fair enough taking his place in the GP if he is injured. The acid test will be if he then rides in Poland on Sunday and "aggravates" the injury and cant take his place at Wolves. Under no circumstances should a facility be allowed in that scenario If Lakeside are denied a facility the people you are hurting most are the Wolves fans who won't want to pay £18 to see a PL six pointer riding at No1 and the Wolves promotion who would lose gate money because GP riders will always put more on the gate than a PL 6pointer. To a lesser extent the Lakeside promotion would be affected because any chance of a point would be greatly reduced, and the one person unaffected by lack of facility would be the rider himself. If riders don't appear without good reason then they should be the ones to pay the price, not the fans or the promotions, especially the opposing promotions.. I guess the post-dated medical certificate is already in JC's hands?! Not yet . He's going to get one of Matt Fords spares and tippex THJ's name out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 If Lakeside are denied a facility the people you are hurting most are the Wolves fans who won't want to pay £18 to see a PL six pointer riding at No1 and the Wolves promotion who would lose gate money because GP riders will always put more on the gate than a PL 6pointer. To a lesser extent the Lakeside promotion would be affected because any chance of a point would be greatly reduced, and the one person unaffected by lack of facility would be the rider himself. If riders don't appear without good reason then they should be the ones to pay the price, not the fans or the promotions, especially the opposing promotions.. Come on now E I... you're digging a bit here aren't you? What next? Oh, we haven't got a very good team this year, its not fair on the track we're visiting, so we'll just track a couple of stronger riders instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Come on now E I... you're digging a bit here aren't you? What next? Oh, we haven't got a very good team this year, its not fair on the track we're visiting, so we'll just track a couple of stronger riders instead. If there is no genuine injury, who should pay the price? The rider or the Wolves fans ? If a 6-pointer were put in the forum would be full of complaints. I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 If there is no genuine injury, who should pay the price? The rider or the Wolves fans ? If a 6-pointer were put in the forum would be full of complaints. I No it wouldn't as for once rules would have followed and the sport shows some credibility. If he rides on Sunday in Poland and doesn't wish to ride on Monday, then he is withholding his services and should be suspended accordingly. Lakeside can then use Doyle as a guest and nobody is upset, as you seem worried about. What SHOULDN'T be allowed to happen is him skip Monday and then simply walk back in on Friday. So, your fears are unjustified if the rules are followed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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